Question Theoretical PC Build Help.

[Nichola994]

I will list the build below. However I would love any input on better parts/ideas that would fall into the same range. I am trying to get it for gaming on some 4k minecraft along with school work. ( I know its probably overkill)

GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER Advanced Overclocked
CPU: Intel Core i9-9820X Skylake X 10-Core 3.3 GHz (4.1 GHz Turbo) LGA 2066 165W BX80673I99820X
SSD: SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 500GB SATA III V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E500B/AM
MotherBoard: ASUS ROG Strix X299-E Gaming II LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
x 2 RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G5, 80 Plus Gold 850W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with FDB Fan

Thanks for any feedback or advice. This is my second build, my first one is finally giving out after 9 years still running DDR3 and an old 4 core.

 

[Phaaze88]

You're right about cpu and mobo being overkill - to the point of being detrimental. Intel mesh bus on their X cpus is slower than the ring bus on their mainstream cpus.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($298.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($47.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($1234.00 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($130.94 @ Amazon)
Total: $2236.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-21 03:45 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($418.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card ($1234.00 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case ($129.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($130.94 @ Amazon)
Total: $2438.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-21 03:51 EDT-0400

 

[Nichola994]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I'm not a big AMD CPU guy anymore and I am also not very coding savvy, but could you kinda explain why the i9 wouldn't be the better choice?

 

[mdd1963]

Certainly a 9900K-based system could be assembled for a couple hundred less, minimum...

If one went with a 3700X-based system, one could easily get 98% of the 9900K's performance (maybe 99.5% at 4k) for $500-ish saved on CPU, cooler, and mainboard... (X299 is not cheap)

 

[Nichola994]

Certainly a 9900K-based system could be assembled for a couple hundred less, minimum...

If one went with a 3700X-based system, one could easily get 98% of the 9900K's performance (maybe 99.5% at 4k) for $500-ish saved on CPU, cooler, and mainboard... (X299 is not cheap)

Have any I can look at as well?

 

[Phaaze88]

1)i9, what?
-i9 X series? It's slower due to the higher core communication latency created by the mesh bus design. A 9820X is slower than a 9700K and a Ryzen 3700X in games. In most productivity apps, Ryzen 3000 would be better still.
-i9 K series? At 4K, the PC is almost entirely gpu bound anyway. The speed advantage the 9900K had is gone at that point. A Ryzen 3700X would perform the same while being a good deal cheaper.

2)Platform overall cost to performance - cpu/mobo/ram/cpu cooler:
-Your current combo - you didn't pick a cooler yet, but I wouldn't go lower than a 360mm AIO - is looking to be in the ballpark of 1450USD
-The 3700X combo = 630USD
-The 3900X combo = 830USD
Why waste all that money when you can get one of the other 2 and allocate those funds to a stronger gpu instead? 4K, remember? You need all the gpu horsepower you can get.

3)When gaming isn't involved, Ryzen 3000 will give an Intel build a literal run for it's money.
https://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=W32jbZ2z8wI
https://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=Vjj6UyPGUtE

I feel like I forgot something... it's late anyway, maybe I'll remember later.

 

[grhand82]

4K Minecraft.....

I litterally just went from Intel builds to an AMD build (I actually chose to go with a 3600, but had my reasons.) 3700x or 3900x will give an Intel a run for it's money ALL DAY LONG for WAY less money. AMD has came a LONG way since Bulldozer and Piledriver back in the day. Comparing Intel Skylake from years past to AMD Bulldozer was a no contest but current AMD Zen 2 on the 7nm die are more power efficient and performance vs $ is way better on the AMD.

If you don't plan on doing alot of encoding or Adobe, the 3700X should give you all the bang you need for 4k gaming. On top of that, the AM4 platform will still be used for the 4000 series CPU coming out so if you decide to upgrade to a different processor in the future, you should be safe. A B450 board should be all you really need unless you plan on utilizing PCIe 4 soon.

Spend the money on a good NVME drive. I run a Samsung 970 m.2 1TB, but just built my brothers PC with an HP 500 series m.2 and honestly, for way less money and the sames space, his PC boots and cruises almost just like mine with identical hardware otherwise.

Get a good CPU cooler. If you go AIO, go big. I have had good luck with NZXT and Corsair personally.

Finally, 32gb of memory may be a bit overkill, again, unless your are doing alot of encoding and intensive Adobe rendering. Current gaming rigs seem to benefit starting at about 16GB but thats all moot. 32gb would be pretty future safe, but your mem kit timing and speed would be an important consideration as well. 3200mhz seems to be a sweet spot, but make sure your timing is as low as possible, 14 to 16.

I am running a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and playing 4k res games with no issue with that GPU. If you have the money, the 3700x does have significantly more juice. Any of those CPUs will NOT bottleneck your GPU. Make sure your mem kit is setup properly with XMP if you go with an AMD processor to get the correct speeds on it.

Good luck!