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[citation][nom]reyshan[/nom]can someone elaborate what below/above ambient temp? my 960t @3.6 on a Thermaltake ISGC-400 idles around 13-15c at 22c room temp and load up to 24c. all my sensors are workin properly.[/citation]
Ambient temperature + delta temperature = final temperature
If your CPU temperature is 60 °C and ambient temperature is 25 °C, then the delta is 35 °C. In other words, if ambient temperature rises to 30 °C, CPU temperature will rise to 65 °C.
You can't have CPU temperature below ambient temperature because that is physically impossible using only fans that blow air over the radiator. You would need some sort of cooling medium like cold water, liquid nitrogen or something along those lines to achieve CPU temperature below ambient.
Ambient temperature + delta temperature = final temperature
If your CPU temperature is 60 °C and ambient temperature is 25 °C, then the delta is 35 °C. In other words, if ambient temperature rises to 30 °C, CPU temperature will rise to 65 °C.
You can't have CPU temperature below ambient temperature because that is physically impossible using only fans that blow air over the radiator. You would need some sort of cooling medium like cold water, liquid nitrogen or something along those lines to achieve CPU temperature below ambient.
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My Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus says "Hello".
That $100 could be better spend on RAM. Although, with the way that cooler blocks two DIMM slots, that might be were the trade-off happens.
Ridiculous price and completely useless if it blocks RAM slots.
That $100 could be better spend on RAM. Although, with the way that cooler blocks two DIMM slots, that might be were the trade-off happens.
Ridiculous price and completely useless if it blocks RAM slots.
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[citation][nom]reyshan[/nom]can someone elaborate what below/above ambient temp? my 960t @3.6 on a Thermaltake ISGC-400 idles around 13-15c at 22c room temp and load up to 24c. all my sensors are workin properly.[/citation]
either your sensors are not working properly, or it is displaying a temperature the CPU is above the ambient temperature.
Ambient temperature is merely room temperature, or the temperature 'around' (which is what ambient means) the object in question.
Think of it this way: Your CPU conducts electricity through tiny pathways, each of those pathways has an amount of friction between the electricity and the 'walls' of the pathways that they travel down. This friction is what causes heat, and that heat must be transferred elsewhere before it gets too hot and ends up melting something. The more pathways that are used, the more heat buildup becomes a problem. So you add a heat sink which draws heat away from the CPU, and then transfers it into the air flowing through the case. The more surface area, and the more airflow a heat sink has, the more effective it becomes (also, the more thermally conductive the material is helps. Like copper instead of steel). If the CPU was turned off, then the heatsink is merely going to take on the temperature of the air in the room, and thus make the CPU the same temperature as the room, this is the minimum temperature a CPU can have because it is 100% at rest. The moment you turn a CPU on it begins producing heat, which is why your CPU temp is ALWAYS higher than your room temperature. If it is not then something is wrong (granted, not terribly wrong... just like a car with a bad speedomitor; The car works fine... you just don't know how fast you are going, or when you are going to get into trouble for going too fast).
At any rate, the temps you are getting for your CPU are not right, because it is impossible without an active cooling component (meaning something cooling it that is below room temperature).
either your sensors are not working properly, or it is displaying a temperature the CPU is above the ambient temperature.
Ambient temperature is merely room temperature, or the temperature 'around' (which is what ambient means) the object in question.
Think of it this way: Your CPU conducts electricity through tiny pathways, each of those pathways has an amount of friction between the electricity and the 'walls' of the pathways that they travel down. This friction is what causes heat, and that heat must be transferred elsewhere before it gets too hot and ends up melting something. The more pathways that are used, the more heat buildup becomes a problem. So you add a heat sink which draws heat away from the CPU, and then transfers it into the air flowing through the case. The more surface area, and the more airflow a heat sink has, the more effective it becomes (also, the more thermally conductive the material is helps. Like copper instead of steel). If the CPU was turned off, then the heatsink is merely going to take on the temperature of the air in the room, and thus make the CPU the same temperature as the room, this is the minimum temperature a CPU can have because it is 100% at rest. The moment you turn a CPU on it begins producing heat, which is why your CPU temp is ALWAYS higher than your room temperature. If it is not then something is wrong (granted, not terribly wrong... just like a car with a bad speedomitor; The car works fine... you just don't know how fast you are going, or when you are going to get into trouble for going too fast).
At any rate, the temps you are getting for your CPU are not right, because it is impossible without an active cooling component (meaning something cooling it that is below room temperature).
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[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]My computer doesn't need RAM...[/citation]
Yeah. RAM is over-rated.
Seriously though. Don't these companies get the frigging memo? It's not like they're designing for stuff that doesn't exist yet?! Why design a cooler with a fan that sits in a RAM slot? And then chare $100 while your at it?
They're showing X58, but this would be the same case with the other platforms this cooler is said to fit.
Makes a good argument for the self-contained LCLC solutions. Or maybe it will create new demand for a 1/4 height ram module?
Yeah. RAM is over-rated.
Seriously though. Don't these companies get the frigging memo? It's not like they're designing for stuff that doesn't exist yet?! Why design a cooler with a fan that sits in a RAM slot? And then chare $100 while your at it?
They're showing X58, but this would be the same case with the other platforms this cooler is said to fit.
Makes a good argument for the self-contained LCLC solutions. Or maybe it will create new demand for a 1/4 height ram module?
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[citation][nom]fb39ca4[/nom]Has there ever been a 250W CPU? This thing would work for a flagship GPU if you don't mind losing all your expansion slots.[/citation]
When you overclock a CPU to it's limits, you can generally almost double it's power usage.
The only issue with power ratings on heatsinks is that there is no standard. I can take a cheap laptop heatsink and market it as a high end desktop CPU with power handling of 200 watts if the heatsink can cool a 200 watt heat source better than no heatsink and not fail/ melt in the process
When you overclock a CPU to it's limits, you can generally almost double it's power usage.
The only issue with power ratings on heatsinks is that there is no standard. I can take a cheap laptop heatsink and market it as a high end desktop CPU with power handling of 200 watts if the heatsink can cool a 200 watt heat source better than no heatsink and not fail/ melt in the process
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[citation][nom]ubercake[/nom]Yeah. RAM is over-rated.Seriously though. Don't these companies get the frigging memo? It's not like they're designing for stuff that doesn't exist yet?! Why design a cooler with a fan that sits in a RAM slot? And then chare $100 while your at it?They're showing X58, but this would be the same case with the other platforms this cooler is said to fit.Makes a good argument for the self-contained LCLC solutions. Or maybe it will create new demand for a 1/4 height ram module?[/citation]
Why would someone opt for this when they could use a sealed water solution for the same or just slightly more money and not block their RAM slots and not put seemingly too much weight on their motherboard. Unless it cools way way way better than a Corsair H70/H80/H100 (I'm skeptical). What is the attraction of this piece?
I believe Thermaltake can do better.
Why would someone opt for this when they could use a sealed water solution for the same or just slightly more money and not block their RAM slots and not put seemingly too much weight on their motherboard. Unless it cools way way way better than a Corsair H70/H80/H100 (I'm skeptical). What is the attraction of this piece?
I believe Thermaltake can do better.
[citation][nom]Viridiancrystal[/nom]Just got a regular frio and I have to say, there is absolutely no need for better cooling (my FX-8120 idles around 10-12C, in a 20C room). If there is, best place to go is water. Besides, one of my ram slots is covered, the thing is HUMONGOUS![/citation]
let me guess you rate your tech level experience as expert on newegg reviews also........
let me guess you rate your tech level experience as expert on newegg reviews also........
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