Info Thermaltake SMART 600w 80+ GOLD OEM PSU Teardown

[NightHawkRMX]

Background:

I saw this PSU on eBay in "seller refurbished" condition. Product was being sold in bulk with many units available, although they have since sold out. The price was $29.99 with free shipping.

I am unable to find this product on Thermaltake.com, however, It can be found on their Australian website: Smart 600W Gold OEM (thermaltake.com.au)
One difference is this website states PS-TTP-0600NNFAGA-1 as the model number, however my unit states TTP-0600NNFAGA. The website states 3 year warranty, mine says 5 on the label, granted this could just be due to region.

Although this PSU appears to be a commonly used unit in Ibuypower units, I have seen this unit available in retail on Amazon and Newegg in the past.

There is a fair bit of into on that website, but here is some info not stated.

The connectors are all sleeved but multi color. The connectors include:
1x ATX 24 pin
1x EPS 12v (CPU)
2x PCIe 6+2 pin
3x Sata power
3x sata power
3x molex + 1x floppy

Also, it was very annoying to open.

https://imgur.com/a/90gAuBu

View: https://imgur.com/a/90gAuBu



It looks like a toughpower GX1 600w, but worsened.

Overall worse caps and maybe a worse fan too.

 

[DSzymborski]

Mmmmm 85 degree caps.

Thanks for opening it up!

 

[NightHawkRMX]

85c 400v. Truly fantastic I know.

 

[DSzymborski]

85c 400v. Truly fantastic I know.

I feel they've ruined the word "smart" for everyone.

Thermaltake always finds a way to quarter-ass everything. Did you see the video Steve made at Gamers Nexus last year when Thermaltake didn't know that you can't divide temperatures by other temperatures to get a percentage?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

The Toughpower GX1 600w has a Nichicon 105c main cap.

Thermaltake Toughpower GX1 600W Power Supply Review | eTeknix

In this review they said they couldn't open it, and I would bet this is since thermaltake decided to tuck some screws under the side labels, which is annoying.
https://ibb.co/2NhJ8Vs
(imgur wouldnt work)

Honestly, assuming the change is just some cheaper caps, it probably wont effect performance MASSIVELY, so it probably performs pretty well.

I wouldn't say it will last nearly as long, however.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

It definitely has a worse fan too. This one is sleeve bearing, not a fdb fan

 

[jonnyguru]

Ouch!

85°C cap and a Yate Loon sleeve bearing fan. Just goes to show that "Gold efficiency" ≠ "Quality".

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I also see some CapXon 105c caps as well

 

[jonnyguru]

I also see some CapXon 105c caps as well

I'd rather they were all Elite 105°C, TBH.

And now Elite has a shortage, so I wonder what TT will switch to for that bulk cap now.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I couldn't imagine that just caps and fans made it more than a dollar or 2 cheaper per unit, although I'm sure you would have more insight into that.

I was going to say that Thermaltake must have some faith it will last awhile given the 5 year warranty printed on the housing, but IIRC they also offer a 5 year warranty on the 80+ white SMART series.

Also, would it be possible for me to PM you a question?

 

[jonnyguru]

Also, would it be possible for me to PM you a question?

It is possible. LOL!

Unless it has something to do with jonnyguru.com being down. I have no idea what's going on there.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

It is possible. LOL!

Unless it has something to do with jonnyguru.com being down. I have no idea what's going on there.

Well, actually It isn't possible.

https://imgur.com/fOc1hGN

View: https://imgur.com/fOc1hGN

I think you have a setting changed somewhere.

It sort of had to deal with the forum, but I was wondering if you had a copy of the CX cheat sheet somewhere else since I cant view it on the forums anymore.

 

[jonnyguru]

Well, actually It isn't possible.

https://imgur.com/fOc1hGN

View: https://imgur.com/fOc1hGN

I think you have a setting changed somewhere.

It sort of had to deal with the forum, but I was wondering if you had a copy of the CX cheat sheet somewhere else since I cant view it on the forums anymore.

http://jongerow.com/CX/index.html

 

[refillable]

Actually, for $30 it's a bargain. The 85C caps and the YL sleeve bearing fan sucks, but for $30 refurbished you can't ask more.

 

[jonnyguru]

Actually, for $30 it's a bargain. The 85C caps and the YL sleeve bearing fan sucks, but for $30 refurbished you can't ask more.

Until the secondary caps fail and can no longer filter ripple/noise and you slowly kill everything that's powered by the PSU.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Although not best brands, the secondary caps all appeared to be 105c, though only a 85c primary.

I wonder how this would compare to a Segotep GP.

That has all 105c caps but from equally ew brands like CapXon and cheng.

 

[Karadjgne]

Might as well setup the toaster on the divide between 2x full kitchen sinks and wait to see how long it takes the cat to knock it off its perch.

I'm all for saving a $ or 2, but by doing so and not telling anyone is cheating and downright hurtful, if not dangerous.

Wonder if SMART isn't the acronym Should Make A Real Toaster...

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Eh, you wouldn't think something that is 80+ gold efficient would make a great toaster, needs more heat output. An N1 400w being run well past peak efficiency would work well.

I'm all for saving a $ or 2, but by doing so and not telling anyone is cheating and downright hurtful, if not dangerous.

Not exactly sure what you mean here.

 

[Karadjgne]

Swapping out 105° caps for 85°, changing from decent caps to not so decent etc. It just smax of someone using a cherry built build for 80+ cert and then production reality is different.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Swapping out 105° caps for 85°, changing from decent caps to not so decent etc. It just smax of someone using a cherry built build for 80+ cert and then production reality is different.

Well its not like they changed the components in one model and were "not telling anyone."

Its a completely different model from the toughpower gf1 and has a completely different name. Thermaltake made no claims it was like a toughpower, and there are no claims of a certain cap or fan type on their website.

I don't think its the case they sent one model for 80+ cert then changed it up for retail. I would imagine even with the cheap caps it still could manage 80+ gold.

An Apevia Prestige 600w has Cheng 85c main caps, EVGA N1 tier, and it still manages proper 80+ gold.

 

[Karadjgne]

Well that's the problem with that cert isn't it. Although it does sorta speak well of that Apevia if it can reach its 100% rated power to get the Gold cert in the first place. Or did it.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Well, one apevia prestige unit did pass the testing. Wether it's the same unit internally as the one I bought (then promptly returned) who knows

 

[Karadjgne]

Lol. Makes one wonder. At least with some units you know they'll fail at @ 50ish % loads or more, I think it's worse having to guess after they supposedly pass 80+ ratings.

 

[refillable]

Until the secondary caps fail and can no longer filter ripple/noise and you slowly kill everything that's powered by the PSU.

It's $30, and secondary caps are 105C so yeah...

 

[NightHawkRMX]

It's $30, and secondary caps are 105C so yeah...

I would agree with this. For $30 I can overlook the cheap caps, given 95% of the units you would find for $30 or less would have similar or worse caps, and probably worse everything else.

For that sort of price here are your choices new, excluding mail in rebates:

https://imgur.com/Yr1k4nL

View: https://imgur.com/Yr1k4nL

For EVGA Bstock units your looking at a W1 or W3 series PSU, and these are even more expensive. The W3 series does have teapo caps all around, but 85c and its group regulated, not to mention less efficient and lower wattage.

https://imgur.com/ypPfBCY

View: https://imgur.com/ypPfBCY