This Is Your Last Chance To Save Net Neutrality

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ccrider_22

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"HIGHWAYS" aren't "FREE" and neither will the internet EVER be; Don't you buy Gas, Plates, Tires? Best be cautious when some one hands the Social NWO UN 'plate of Control' to your table. They don't care about your net use, they want the World to control the content; therefore, like the FAKE NEWS, what you know about the world and what they want you to know.
 

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"If they can control bandwidth to favor their own content over competing content, they can also control bandwidth to favor what they want you to hear versus what they don't want you to hear. Don't let someone tell you that an ISP should be able to favor or handicap content just because he is on "your team", because in reality none of them are really on your team. This isn't about paying one's fair share or about innovation, it's strictly about the ISPs' ability to handicap and limit their content competition."
Well then fix that problem; don't hand control to a group of Nations that could completely change content allowed. That's like banning guns to rid us of idiots...
 

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1. You don't understand the concept of "neutrality" very well do you?
2. You also don't understand that it's nation. Singular. Every country is individually responsible for NN, the reason the world is concerned with the US is because they're a huge traffic hub, and further, they set a lot of precedent internationally.It is not a delegation to international authority.

I wouldn't have a problem with people disagreeing with net neutrality, except not a single person thus far actually has shown an understanding of what it is through their commentary, because they have said things that are patent misunderstandings of the issue.... and so that's a problem. Condemn what you understand, but leave managing what you don't to the people who do - or learn, and then give an informed opinion.

Finally, if you instantly scream socialism whenever the prospect of regulation comes up, you need to do some introspection. I've only ever known it as the calling card of close-minded contrarianism, and it's not good for debate, it's not a good way to form a worldview, and it's most certainly not indicative of a good, honest relationship with rationalism and evidence-based policy making. That's not good for society and if you want to gainfully participate in it, you should exercise some civic responsibility and make sure you're not just following people or being knee-jerk. It's the same sort of ignorant screeching the SJW's do, just without the free beatings. I love capitalism. It's a beautiful system, and the best we have. However, much like communism, the laissez-faire variety is predicated on an incredible naivety about human nature. The invisible hand is a hand - it doesn't have eyes, and sometimes so remains blind to major problems.There is a place for regulation in the system. This is one of them.

NN does nothing but prejudice ISPs who think they can double dip and arbitrarily charge more for the same unit on the basis of philosophy, not actual costs. Given that the internet is such an important gateway, and they have the privilege to be the gatekeepers, making such restrictions does not affect their bottom line. They already charge for delivery on a per unit basis.

It's like giving a truck (let us assume no special storage requirements were in place, as data is data - electrons do not differ in quality) driver a contract. He's to deliver 500 tons of goods. That's the contract. If you give him Iron or wood, he still agrees to transit 500 tons of it.

Now, it's awkward making this metaphor too realistic, as iron and wood have many different properties. Data however does not. It's always electrons, and if you're charging out on a unit basis, the pattern of those electrons does not affect costs, only the amount, which is being compensated for.
 

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If you somehow thing big business is good for America without Uncle Sam involved, you are foolish and gullible. Big business will absolutely gut the blank out of everything and raise rates and cut services. SO if you don't like paying 150 a month in your house now, be prepared to pay 300 - 500 a month once this gets shot down in the house or by the potus. Big business is all about money. Not customer service, not doing the right thing (like saving the environment), not paying their fair share of taxes nothing. The healthcare system is broken because of BIG BUSINESS. The 2008 crash happened because of BIG BUSINESS. The soon to crash wallstreet and financial sectors will because of greed and big business. There is absolutely ZERO evidence that says otherwise. I could care less about your brain washed, idioticly blind thoughts, so me historical evidence and I will listen. No not historical evidence that you magically typed into google.
 

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Supports of gutting NN. Go put more tin foil on your head and close the doors and sit in the corner and only listen to things you want to hear... Oh wait, you've already done that.
 

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You should really read what the actual case of Citizen's United was actually about. It was the near opposite of what many claim. It was about a powerful politician and her supporters in government suppressing speech by citizens that she viewed as negative.
 

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Both of your examples are cases where "Uncle Sam" was and is extremely involved in the markets and distorts the those markets and creates many of the negative incentives.

The government spends almost half the dollars in healthcare "market".

FreddieMac and Fannie Mae are the major players in housing financing that caused the 2008 crash.
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That is correct!

That said, it doesn't have to be that way if the average citizen actually got involved with their representatives vs just "pulling the lever" for their "team" come election time. The adage holds true - the government you elect is the government you deserve.

Unfortunately, what's been going on is corrupt politicians engaging in crony capitalism. I'm not here to point fingers at any one party, but rather making a statement of fact in general that all parties do it to one degree or another. Although there is bias as to which party is beholden-ed to what specific industries, but I digress.

As such, it boggles my mind that the Government meddles in the free market either for political power-gain reasons, or because they've been bought and paid for. It's the same thing really, but there are subtitle differences. So in the aftermath of failure, people protest for ...wait for it...MORE government control. The SAME government that caused the problems in the first place. So we end up with a recursive loop of failure, time after time after time again.

Ideally, your government (mine as well) shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers in the market. Rather, than being a player, it should be a referee making impartial judgement and allowing for a level playing field. Alas that's not what we currently have, and neither is NN an impartial piece of legislation.
 
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