Today was my Lucky day!

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.pinball (More info?)

Actually I can see both sides of this argument. Herb is absolutely right -
the seller screwed eBay and whether they make a billion a year or 50K a
year, the moral issue is the same.
My point is that the buyer had no obligation to eBay.

--
Art
"Twilight4u" <rtw334@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125202719.246599.166900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Herb you need to get off your high horse.
>

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.pinball (More info?)

The one game (computer Space) I sold on ebay went great excepy for an
annoying person who kept calling me to sell directly to him. He was
obnoxious . When I told him if he wanted it, he had to bid on it, he said
he was too busy to go through bidding process. I guess he wasn't too busy
to go to ebay, just too cheap to deal with cost of doing business.
The young newbie collector who won the aution was very happy to take the
time to bid on a very rare find. And I was happy to live up to a contract
made with ebay.
"Art Mallet - Artfromny - formerly A218@aol.com" <artgames@nycap.rr.com>
wrote in message news😛FjQe.40661$EX.27425@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> the buyer here has no issues with sliminess - he made an offer and it was
up
> to the seller to decide what path to take - the obligation to continue a
> listing on eBay is the seller's. You would be amazed at how many sellers,
> when contacted with an offer that sounds good, will dump an auction in a
> heartbeat and do the sale privately. By the same token, I have offered
bids
> of $150 on Fluke items that the seller got all huffy about, and then at
the
> end of the auction, my $55 snipe bid wins the item. Go figure.
> I dont ever ask a seller to 'deal off ebay' - what I ask them to do is end
> the first auction and relist it for me using my offering price as a buy it
> noiw price. The fact that the seller prefers to just have me paypal my
> offer is not my issue.
>
> --
> Art
> "Herb Schanke" <hschanke@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news😀V5Qe.1291$sP7.819@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
> > It's not just you. I also think it's a pretty slimy thing to do. Both
on
> > the seller's part as well as the buyer's.
> >
> > Herb Schanke
> >
> > "Eric" <estrangeway@NOcharter.SPAMMERSnet> wrote in message
> > news:NN3Qe.4342$Yh6.2814@fe04.lga...
> >> Maybe its just me, but I think it cheats the honest bidders on ebay to
> >> ask a
> >> seller to sell an auction offline after bids have been placed on an
item
> >> (and wrong of a seller to do so as well.) My policy has been that I
will
> >> end an auction early as long as there are no bid on the item, and once
> >> there
> >> is a bid, the auction will run through its entirety.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> "Twilight4u" <rtw334@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1125106802.812383.91540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Yes i did. I find alot of sellers just want to save on ebay fees and
> >>> the hassle of people asking questions
> >>> Ray
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Eric]

Archived from groups: rec.games.pinball (More info?)

Ebay rules were broken on this transaction:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html

There are some rules that I don't particulary care for on ebay, but when I
signed up and use their service, I play by their rules and expect that
others will too.

Eric

"Josh A." <josh489@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125250198.885169.172060@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Herb Schanke wrote:
>
> > Ebay DIDN'T get what the seller agreed to pay them for the service they
> > provided.
>
> No eBay rules were broken when the seller ended the two auctions here.
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html
>
> If eBay wanted to prevent sales "off" eBay, it would prohibit a seller
> from indicating that he is advertising the item for sale locally and
> may pull the auction at any time. Ebay could also insist that, if a
> listing is pulled for any reason, that the seller nevertheless will be
> required to pay final value fees on the highest bid then in place. It
> doesn't.
>
> I have a hard time feeling sorry for potential bidders here since the
> reserve prices on these two games hadn't even been met. One guy says
> he was going to bid (probably snipe) $1,100 on the Flintstones. I
> think it's fair for a seller to yank his auction if it hasn't met
> reserve and there's more than 12 hours to go before the scheduled
> ending (which eBay expressly allows). Snipers don't want to tip their
> hands, of course, but if a thousand dollar item is still sitting at
> $200 the day before the auction ends and the reserve price hasn't been
> met, I can't blame a seller for accepting an offer that's near to its
> market value. From a seller's perspective, there should be an
> incentive for early bids to be placed in order to lessen his risk. For
> snipers, the chance of an auction being canceled if it *hasn't* met the
> reserve price provides this incentive.
>
> I only buy on eBay, but I can understand the seller's behavior here.
> If I'd wanted either of these two games, I would have bid them up to at
> least 80 percent of my maximum to try to find the reserve price, then
> sniped my maximum later. The seller could have still ended the auction
> early, of course, but it would have been less likely to happen if he'd
> known that his reserve price had already been met.
>
> - Josh A.
>