Torchlight 2 Unleashed: Is It ''More'' Than Diablo 3?

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D3 user review got bashed by online gaming requirement and all the nerdy QQ over it. I will def give TL2 a chance and go from there but it seems like the TL2 fans go out of their way to bash D3.
 
Let's see....
$20 for a game I can play anytime, anywhere, and it is going to have user created content so it can go on forever (like Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim).....
Or...
$60 for a buggy game I HAVE to have internet on at all times, and if I lose my connection I lose god knows what.
I'm thinking the choice should be obvious here but I just can't put my finger on it.....
 
glad there is alternative to diablo3. i have been wanting diablo3 but high price and always online keep me away from it. i will get torchlight2 when i had the money, cant wait.

*update:
i really cant wait, so i just bought it from steam... yeaaaaah, the price is right. t2 wins.
 
I think it's human nature to root for the little guy - to want the creators of Diablo 2 to beat the rich copyright holders of Diablo 3.

And I guess in a lot of ways they have. Torchlight 2 does a lot of things better than Diablo 3.

However, with personal feelings and underdog sentiment put aside, and understanding how Blizzard continually tweaks and improves upon their games (and they are "all in" with Diablo 3), I feel that Diablo 3 has the potential to be the better game.
 
The hate on Blizzard is placed correctly. They do not perform like the used to. They are still one of the best developers in the business, but the margin between them and everyone else is a lot smaller than it used to be. I'm a highly competitive player, but the game has to not frustrate me first. Diablo 3 does not hit my expectations of a Diablo game. Good game...it's just not Diablo to me.
 
Yep, it's between TL2 and BL2 for me right now. I don't have enough time after work to fit them both in.
 
Blizzard placed the customer last with D3 (always online + rmah cut's just to pay for the always online servers - are you kidding me!?). Its an old saying "You reap what you sow" and many people who pre-purchased diablo3 got very disappointed with the game - The next blizzard game pre-purchase numbers will prove what the D3's "sowing" did to the company's once great reputation!
 
Diablo 3 didn't have a problem with endgame. It had a problem with nearly complete lack of content.

The maps aren't random like D1/D2, the maps are fantastically small.
Traversing the lands only takes a short while. The entire game only takes a few hours to finish, and then you're expected to play it over and over forever?

D2 was so damn long, that you spent a week on the first CD for crying out loud. D3 is like a short story.
 
Been playing the TL2 demo. Played the D3 demo back in May. TL2 seems more fun--and more like a real successor to D2 (just as the original TL was).

Multiplayer? Don't care about that. Single-player only for me.
 
[citation][nom]knight_of_baawa[/nom]Been playing the TL2 demo. Played the D3 demo back in May. TL2 seems more fun--and more like a real successor to D2 (just as the original TL was).Multiplayer? Don't care about that. Single-player only for me.[/citation]u missed the better part. If u think the Act 1(in demo) is fun to u, wait till u see Act 2, it is bigger and monsters have more crazy tricks on u. get the game already.
 
Borderlands 2 is simply divine...... LAN SUPPORT YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And of course graphics are ten times better than the previous one. The price of the game for what it has to offer is unbeatable.

Torchlight 2 is exactly the same. Very rich content and new improved cartoonist graphics.

And now for both games the point that most people should take under consideration. They both sell at the RIGHT PRICE for all that content they offer.

Out of respect and only these two titles have been purchases and not pirated. You want to beat piracy-earn your customers respect.
 
[citation][nom]master_chen[/nom]Yes! YES!GOD I LOVE THIS GAME![/citation]
Absolutely agree. A friend bought it for me at the weekend's LAN, and I sorta sit here at work wanting to play it.

[citation][nom]Pennanen[/nom]Diablo 3 was just a cashout for the diablo franchise. Developed by wow team and you can see that 100 miles away.[/citation]
Despite being made by the wow people, it doesn't have any of the smarts that wow has - not even a modular ui.

 
Paid $80 for 2 copies of Diablo3. Beat it in 12 hours at a boringly easy difficulty (because you can't up the difficulty until you beat it). Tried to play again for the "real" game, and was bored within the first 30 minutes. Bought 4 copies of Torchlight 2 for $60. Started a LAN game because the servers were down, and played for a few hours on "Normal". Upped it to "Veteran", and started having insane amounts of fun. Later upped it to "Elite" and omg I'm in heaven. Diablo 3 didn't want you to have fun until you've beaten it a few times because Blizz wants you locked in. Torchlight 2 just wants you to have fun.

Torchlight 2 just feels like the DEVS just wanted to have fun. They didn't constrain themselves with story or atmosphere. They just said screw it, yes we will have a level where everyone has guns and it feels like a shmup, and yes we will have challenge stages where you have to manage an insane amount of adds while trying to light torches in a random order.

Torchlight 2 is the clear winner for me because it eschews money machine, lock-in, real money trash for a cake make of fun with intermediate layers of double fun and a dab of creamy fudge fundae on top.
 
Torchlight 2 Unleashed: Is It ''More'' Than Diablo 3?

For me, Yes. By far.

First, the game is plenty social. I am on steam, I have my steam friends. Just because your friends are all on Real IDs does not make TL2 anti social. I would argue that with my steam community, that TL2 is just as social.

Secondly. I have the choice of playing online or off, with the same character. Blizzard went backwards from D2 to D3. In D2 we had a choice of playing online, offline, open bnet, or lan. With D3 you have one option. Bringing your laptop on a train ride with no wifi? Sorry you can't play d3. But you can play the same TL2 char that you have been playing online. This is a HUGE win for me.

Thirdly, with d3, you HAVE to spec a certain way with each class in order to survive. There is no flexibility to get through inferno. From my experience playing TL2 there are no HAVE to get skills. There are way more options for viable chars, while at the same time making them unique in game play. Want a duel wielding wand beserker? Ok.

Fourth, $20.

Fifth, Modding.

Sixth, I want to put something here about the auction house. I can't think of anything good, but I would never pay for items in a video game. So I stayed far away from it. I think there is more to write here about how TL2 has excellent flexibility with gear choices, but I cannot find the words.

Bottomline:

When you compare the resources that Blizzard has, and the resources that Runic has, it really puts into perspective how awesome TL2 is compared to D3. It speaks volumes that these two games are even being compared on the same level.
 
There are some quirks with TL2, but it doesn't take MUCH at all to have Diablo 3 uninstalled forever.

coaster of the year goes to D3.

TL2, worth my gaming time for quite some time to come.

Can't wait for TL3, 4, and 5, as they will all be out way before Diablo 4 ever does. In fact, nobody alive today will ever see Diablo 4.
 
I finished D3 on Inferno, got 3 out of 5 Hardcore characters to Lvl 60, and besides that, now trying to complete buggy Achievements/Challenges. Bottom line is, there is nothing for me to come back & play again. What? Farming, bidding and selling on AH with limits. B o r i n g !

I switched on TL2 today, WOW! Simply amazing, so much color, gear, monsters, SINGLE PLAYER&LAN... wow, Runic has done it again, this time better. Highly Recommend when D3 is offline (Permanently) :-D
 
I was a sucker who bought D3 because I believed, up until D3, Blizzard was a quality company that produced outstanding games (War/Starcraft series, Wow)

How is Torchlight? Is it worth the $20?
 
I am an avid D3 gamer and now also started with TL2.

BOTH games have positives and negatives and i dont think it would be constructive to debate which game would be "better". TL2, although i personally am not big on its graphics, has some very cool features going for it. The loot is better, the idea with sending the pets to town to sell and buy stuff, the weapons which upgrade themselves after x kills: Just pure genius.

I have not played that many hours TL2 yet but i can pretty confidently say that on a gameplay level, TL2 is better while D3 just had the bigger budget which shows in graphics, for example.

While...in theory...in D3 the gold auction house and RM auction house could've added good things to D3, i think it backfired since the focus on the AH in D3 made it ultimately a worse game where the negatives are more than the positives. The RMAH is the reason the loot is so rotten bad in D3, items on the AH ore overpriced, many botters etc..etc..

For $20 i think TL2 is a no-brainer and i ask anyone being negative please to PLAY this game for several hours before giving an opinion, eg. solely on the graphics. Compare €60 (Euro!!) i paid for one copy of D3 for my GF and $60 for myself...to $20 for TL2.

If anything, the makers of TL2 showed the multi-million dollar company blizzard that a game can cost only $20..and it can be GOOD. And it also showed that developing a game with a main focus on "how we can we make the most money from it?" is not always the right way to go. At some point, people will get tired of running Act3 in D3 over and over again and not getting any good loot..while they could have fun instead...with TL2 instead.
 


Of course. It is actually worth even more than that, IMHO. I'd buy it even if it got 40$ price, because that would be it's actual balance on price per quality and content it affords.
Simply putting: right now, when you pay 20$ for one copy of Torchlight II, you get at least 150% of quality and content for that money, but if it would've cost more, like 40~45$, then the balance would be exactly at 100%, because quality and content-wise Torchlight II is absolutely the "40~50$ dollars game", it doesn't feel "20$" at all.
So current price is an absolute steal, especially if you consider that you can buy FOUR copies-pack (15$ each) at Steam, that's FANTASTICOBULOUSO (like "Angry Joe" would say).

Aside from that...

LOL! Butthurt FIALbo III fanboys galore ITT! Giimme moar of your juicy, incompetently lame, totally noobish, gloriously kindergarten-grade level of anger! Aw yeaaaaah. >: )
 
Can we quit comparing Torchlight II to Diablo III I keep hearing nothing but bad things about Diablo III so lets compare Torchlight II to something that isn't junk. Borderlands II just came out as well we should probably be using that for a comparison or at least compare Torchlight II to Diablo II as I hear it has more in common with that game than even Diablo III, which to my understanding basically just inherited the name and not any of the things which made the previous games great.
 
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