Question Toshiba Satellite fan does not run?

[jjwdeck]

Fan stopped running on Toshiba Satellite C655D(-S5531) after disconnected 4 pin fan lead by mistake, while trying to fix a broken case (I think), about 8 months ago. Fan used to have very good air flow and would run when charging with computer booted. Now the fan does not run by itself anymore; no air flow from the exhaust and I can feel the temperature of the HDD get warm. When the HDD is warm, the system slows down substantially, leaving programs "not responding" or not accepting mouse input for 10 to 20 seconds at times.

One Toshiba forum suggested checking for a sense thermistor (on a 3 pin fan) to verify its operation; so I tried a heat gun on the fan while the system was running and the fan turns on, but does not have the high air flow it used to have.

Another post used SpeedFan to check the cooling system operation. When I installed SpeedFan, found 3 fans and 4 temperature sensors: HD0, Temp1, GPU and Core. Found the HDd0 temp show red about 50C, but fan does not turn on. Temp1, GPU and Core show red about 42C (but this varies), and still no fan speed nor air flow. SpeedFan documentation is a little terse for me, and it looks like the author no longer supports it. Appears SpeedFan does not allow direct fan manipulation (can't just turn one on).

Swapped out the fan and got the same results with the replacement fan; fan still does not run. Obviously there must be some other control for the fan that I am missing. Could this be a BIOS fault or motherboard fault? Any suggestion how to proceed would be appreciated.

 

[jjwdeck]

DriverUpdate Utility suggests Realtek RTL8188CE Wireless LAN 802.11 Network Adapter and Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller are out of date. But Windows Update Driver determines the SATA driver is up to date. And the fan problem occurs whether or not it is in a wifi area. The fan problem also occurs in Linux flavors Debian and Ubuntu, which presumably use different drivers.
SpeedFan continues to show several temperature sensors at or near a 50C critical level (red flame icon) but all of the fans show 0 RPM. The fan may actually turn at a slow speed as I can hear a slight sound (either from the HDD or fan) and I can also feel some heat exiting from the exhaust port. The system response continues to degrade, with up to minutes at a time in a wait state (sometimes mouse frozen or unresponsive apps). Think it may be waiting for the HDD.
Does anyone have an idea about how disconnecting the fan connector from the motherboard could cause the fan to essentially stop? It used be noticably loud and have high heated exhaust flow.

 

[lga1156_ftw]

Forget the drivers. Those temperatures you mention for gpu / cpu and motherboard are completely fine which sometimes does not even trigger the fan (depends on bios). Harddrive / ssd is not cooled by the laptop fans. Do you mean 50c+ for the HDD?
Download HWmonitor and show the temperatures send pics here

Might be dying hdd or something else, if you can fix hdd errors with chdsk (google it theres loads of tutorials) , if this fixes it temporarily you just need ssd/hdd (I suggest ssd)

 

[jjwdeck]

Forget the drivers. Those temperatures you mention for gpu / cpu and motherboard are completely fine which sometimes does not even trigger the fan (depends on bios). Harddrive / ssd is not cooled by the laptop fans. Do you mean 50c+ for the HDD?
Download HWmonitor and show the temperatures send pics here

Might be dying hdd or something else, if you can fix hdd errors with chdsk (google it theres loads of tutorials) , if this fixes it temporarily you just need ssd/hdd (I suggest ssd)

Today SpeedFan is getting Temp1, GPU and core above 50 degrees centigrade (all with flame icon) after an hour at the library. Also getting really slow response times (several Notepad activations stacked one after another; all open when clearing desktop; also same for other apps). Yesterday it was only GPU, I think, and it fluctuated (> 50C flame icon, returned to green check mark < 50C). HDD used to be hot (> 50C, I could feel the heat from the case cover), but today it is 37C. The last time I took top cover off, the HDD cover was not seated and there is an air gap now. So it is cooling the HDD a little more. The fan does cool the HDD. One fan for the whole system, when it runs it draws the heat from the whole interior of the case.
You said "Download HWmonitor and show the temperatures send pics here" but where do I find the HWmonitor? Is this part of SpeedFan? I also suspect the HDD (not SSD) is overheating and causing scheduling delays (erratic performance, especially after some warm up time). But today the HDD registers a good temp, while other sensors are hot. My thought was it might be a motherboard problem, as the sensors seem to work, but the fan does not run (at least, not at full speed).

 

[lga1156_ftw]

Hwmonitor is different software just google it and download, then test under load what you are getting on max temperatures for cpu cores , graphics card and hdd/ssd

 

[jjwdeck]

Hwmonitor is different software just google it and download, then test under load what you are getting on max temperatures for cpu cores , graphics card and hdd/ssd

Included Monitor data from CPUID HWMonitor after hour+ on library wifi. Can't see fan info and no breakdown for HDD (unlike SpeedFan). Don't know how to interpret all the data:

CPUID HWMonitor Report
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Binaries
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HWMonitor version 1.4.2.0

Monitoring
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Mainboard Model Portable PC (0x000003EC - 0x103CB030)

LPCIO
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Hardware Monitors
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Hardware monitor ACPI
Temperature 0 45 degC (112 degF) [0xC6E] (THZN)

Hardware monitor Battery
Voltage 0 10.80 Volts [0x2A30] (Current Voltage)
Capacity 0 47520 mWh [0xB9A0] (Designed Capacity)
Capacity 1 29527 mWh [0x7357] (Full Charge Capacity)
Capacity 2 6792 mWh [0x1A88] (Current Capacity)
Level 0 38 pc [0x3E] (Wear Level)
Level 1 23 pc [0x17] (Charge Level)

Hardware monitor D3D

Hardware monitor AMD ADL
Voltage 0 0.86 Volts [0x35E] (GPU)
Temperature 0 45 degC (112 degF) [0x2D] (GPU)
Clock Speed 0 278.58 MHz [0x116] (Graphics)
Clock Speed 1 533.00 MHz [0x215] (Memory)
Clock Speed 2 n.a. (Processor)


Processors
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Number of sockets 1
Number of threads 2

APICs
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Socket 0
-- Core 0 (ID 0)
-- Thread 0 0
-- Core 1 (ID 1)
-- Thread 1 1

Timers
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ACPI timer 3.580 MHz
Perf timer 1.266 MHz
Sys timer 1.000 KHz


Processors Information
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Socket 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
Name AMD E-300
Codename Zacate
Specification AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Package Socket FT1 BGA
CPUID F.2.0
Extended CPUID 14.2
Brand ID 8
Core Stepping ON-C0
Technology 40 nm
Core Speed 1111.6 MHz
Multiplier x Bus Speed 11.14 x 99.8 MHz
Base frequency (cores) 99.8 MHz
Base frequency (ext.) 99.8 MHz
Stock frequency 1300 MHz
Instructions sets MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V
Microcode Revision 0x5000101
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 2 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Max CPUID level 00000006h
Max CPUID ext. level 8000001Bh
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 32 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 32 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)
FID/VID Control yes
Min FID 7.8x
Max VID 1.350 V
# of P-States 3
P-State 1300 MHz - FID 0x200 - VID 0x10 - IDD 4 (13.00x - 1.350 V)
P-State 1114 MHz - FID 0x202 - VID 0x12 - IDD 3 (11.14x - 1.325 V)
P-State 780 MHz - FID 0x400 - VID 0x23 - IDD 2 (7.80x - 1.112 V)

Max PLL Frequency 3900

Package Type 0x0
Model 31
String 1 0x2
String 2 0x9
Page 0x0
Boosted P-States 0
Max non-turbo ratio 13.00x
Max turbo ratio 13.00x
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 4
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 5
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 6
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 7

Clock Speed 0 1111.63 MHz (Core #0)
Clock Speed 1 1111.63 MHz (Core #1)
Core 0 max ratio 13.0 (effective 13.0)
Core 1 max ratio 13.0 (effective 13.0)


Thread dumps
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CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0

CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000006 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x00000001 0x00500F20 0x00020800 0x00802209 0x178BFBFF
0x00000002 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
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0x80000002 0x20444D41 0x30332D45 0x50412030 0x69772055
0x80000003 0x52206874 0x6F656461 0x6D74286E 0x44482029
0x80000004 0x61724720 0x63696870 0x00000073 0x00000000
0x80000005 0xFF08FF08 0xFF280000 0x20080140 0x20020140
0x80000006 0x00000000 0x42004200 0x02008140 0x00000000
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000001F9
0x80000008 0x00003024 0x00000000 0x00001001 0x00000000
0x80000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
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0x8000000B 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000C 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000D 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
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0x80000011 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000012 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000013 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000014 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000015 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000016 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000017 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000018 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000019 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001A 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001B 0x000000FF 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00900
MSR 0xC0010114 0x00000000 0x00000018
MSR 0xC0010061 0x00000000 0x00000020
MSR 0xC0010062 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010063 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010064 0x8000012B 0x00002020
MSR 0xC0010065 0x8000011C 0x00002422
MSR 0xC0010066 0x800002A5 0x00004640
MSR 0xC0010067 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010068 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010058 0x00000000 0xF8000019
MSR 0xC0010015 0x00000000 0x01000011
MSR 0xC001001F 0x04004000 0x00000200
MSR 0xC0010071 0x002E0082 0x6E002020
MSR 0xC0010070 0x00000000 0x00000000

CPU Thread 1
APIC ID 1
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 1, Thread ID 0

CPUID
0x00000000 0x00000006 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x00000001 0x00500F20 0x01020800 0x00802209 0x178BFBFF
0x00000002 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000003 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000004 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x00000005 0x00000040 0x00000040 0x00000003 0x00000000
0x00000006 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000001 0x00000000
0x80000000 0x8000001B 0x68747541 0x444D4163 0x69746E65
0x80000001 0x00500F20 0x000011F9 0x000035FF 0x2FD3FBFF
0x80000002 0x20444D41 0x30332D45 0x50412030 0x69772055
0x80000003 0x52206874 0x6F656461 0x6D74286E 0x44482029
0x80000004 0x61724720 0x63696870 0x00000073 0x00000000
0x80000005 0xFF08FF08 0xFF280000 0x20080140 0x20020140
0x80000006 0x00000000 0x42004200 0x02008140 0x00000000
0x80000007 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000001F9
0x80000008 0x00003024 0x00000000 0x00001001 0x00000000
0x80000009 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000A 0x00000001 0x00000008 0x00000000 0x0000060F
0x8000000B 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000C 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000D 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000E 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000000F 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000010 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000011 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000012 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
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0x80000015 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
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0x80000017 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000018 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x80000019 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001A 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000
0x8000001B 0x000000FF 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x00000000

MSR 0x0000001B 0x00000000 0xFEE00800
MSR 0xC0010114 0x00000000 0x00000018
MSR 0xC0010061 0x00000000 0x00000020
MSR 0xC0010062 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010063 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010064 0x8000012B 0x00002020
MSR 0xC0010065 0x8000011C 0x00002422
MSR 0xC0010066 0x800002A5 0x00004640
MSR 0xC0010067 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010068 0x00000000 0x00000000
MSR 0xC0010058 0x00000000 0xF8000019
MSR 0xC0010015 0x00000000 0x01000011
MSR 0xC001001F 0x04004000 0x00000200
MSR 0xC0010071 0x002E0082 0x6E002020
MSR 0xC0010070 0x00000000 0x00000000



Storage
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Drive 0
Name TOSHIBA MK3275GSX
Revision GT001M
Serial Z11EPCXBT
Capacity 298.1 GB
Type Fixed
Bus Type SATA (11)
Rotation speed 5400 RPM
Features SMART
Volume c:\, 25.0 GBytes (15.1 percent available)
Volume d:\, 40.0 GBytes (12.7 percent available)
Volume e:\, 35.0 GBytes (39.1 percent available)
Volume f:\, 81.5 GBytes (20.3 percent available)
Volume g:\, 13.7 GBytes (4.2 percent available)

USB Devices
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USB Device USB Input Device, class=0x00, subclass=0x00, vendor=0x3938, product=0x1031
USB Device USB Composite Device, class=0xEF, subclass=0x02, vendor=0x10F1, product=0x1A34

Graphic APIs
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API D3D
API ATI I/O
API ADL SDK

Display Adapters
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Display adapter 0
ID 0x2000000
Name AMD Radeon HD 6310 Graphics
Board Manufacturer Toshiba
PCI device bus 0 (0x0), device 1 (0x1), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x1002 (0x1179)
Model ID 0x9802 (0xFDE8)
Revision ID 0x0
Performance Level 0
Core clock 278.6 MHz
Memory clock 533.0 MHz
Performance Level 1
Core clock 487.5 MHz
Memory clock 533.0 MHz


Monitor 0
Model ()
ID IVO03F4
Serial
Manufacturing Date Week 28, Year 2017
Size 15.3 inches
Max Resolution 1366 x 768 @ 59 Hz
Horizontal Freq. Range 0-0 kHz
Vertical Freq. Range 0-0 Hz
Max Pixel Clock 0 MHz
Gamma Factor 2.2


ACPI
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PEWS
WSTA
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IOCC
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PRWP
GPRW
SPTS
SWAK
CHKH
GNVS
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DAS1
DAS3
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TCP0
TCP1
ATNB
PCP0
PCP1
PWMN
LPTY
M92D
WKPM
ALST
AFUC
EXUS
TPCC
TPLC
TPLR
TPMM
AIRC
WLSH
TSSS
OGNS
[ ]
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OG01
OG02
OG03
OG04
OG05
OG06
OG07
OG08
OG09
OG10
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NVST
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PRM1
BRTL
TLST
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NSTE
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LIDS
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[lga1156_ftw]

HWmonitor main page should have temperatures, core #0 1 2 etc, just look at the "max" column

 

[jjwdeck]

"Included Monitor data from CPUID HWMonitor after hour+ on library wifi. Can't see fan info and no breakdown for HDD (unlike SpeedFan). Don't know how to interpret all the data:

CPUID HWMonitor Report ... "

Took a screen shot of the HWMonitor page, but can't attach it to my reply. Is there a way to do this? The max temp I saw was 53C.

 

[lga1156_ftw]

Just upload it some where and post a link

 

[jjwdeck]

Just upload it some where and post a link

I don't really have any web site to put the picture on (sorry, I'm a little backward here). But I isolated the 3 temperatures from HWMonitor, and did another screen capture this morning:

THZN Assembly MK3275GSX GPU
20Nov20, 53C 39C 54C wo/vacuum on exhaust port
21Nov20 38C 23C 38C w/vacuum on exhaust port

I set up a vacuum cleaner hose next to the exhaust port and found noticeable drop in temperatures, versus the previous day without the vacuum sucking air out of the exhaust port. The system performance also improved, but still has some delays.
Looks like the problems would mostly disappear if I could get the fan to turn on. Any suggestions?

 

[lga1156_ftw]

Look on the left on this link there is "screenshots" : https://www.softpedia.com/get/PORTABLE-SOFTWARE/System/System-Info/Portable-HWMonitor.shtml

MK3275GSX is your harddrive, look for CPU core and graphics card temperatures (max) column under load, if you dont game then just open chrome and watch youtube for example

Temperatures look fine even without the vacuum.

Most likely its just dying HDD: do a scan with this https://hddscan.com/

 

[jjwdeck]

Found One Drive could share monitor screen shots; the link is
https://1drv.m/u/s!AlRBQMF4d9FNiTXuPVRujyvxSf8f?e=WU0AXe
It has HWMonitor data from before I cooled the system with a vacuum and also using the vacuum to reduce temperatures. The vacuum did reduce temperatures, but performance still had lags. Also got HDD Monitor data with SMART and Butterfly read test. First butterfly read test (not shown) took a long time starting with a line of red (>500ms) before the response improved (gray and green).
Installed a replacement motherboard this weekend. Hoping it would allow the fan to run at full speed, but it doesn't. The MB is used and may have problems; version upgrade from 1.20 to 2.04 and does not boot from the one primary Win7 partition; it does boot from grub2 into Win10, Debian and Ubuntu. There seems to be more heat out of the exhaust port and the top case at the HDD is warm again. I have included screen shots with the replaced MB including HDD SMART and Butterfly read, as well as HWMonitor data.
I suspect you are correct about HDD dying, although I can't be positive until the cooling problem is fixed. The system response with the replacement MB is looks a little better, but I don't know how long that will last. Wish I could isolate the fan problem to make it run at full speed. Any advice?

 

[lga1156_ftw]

Yeah that harddrive need to be replaced. You can also get SSD. Can you scroll down on the HWMONITOR so i can see processor temperature

 

[jjwdeck]

lga1156_ftw replied to a thread you are watching at Tom's Hardware Forum.
Question - Toshiba Satellite fan does not run?
Yeah that harddrive need to be replaced. You can also get SSD. Can you scroll down on the HWMONITOR so i can see processor temperature

Sorry, it has taken so long to get back with more information about the monitor data. When I installed the replacement MB, I lost the win7 boot; can only boot the win10 OS now.
I posted a 3 more images from HWMonitor (in HWM Comp folder).

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlRBQMF4d9FNiWV6z9GsGwhdjmrL?e=8gyZAp

They all show the whole window; ending w/AMD E-300 (which is partially cut-off). For all of these there are 3 temperature lines: at top for THZN, 1/3 down for Assembly, and about at the middle for GPU; the values for the replaced MB are 46C, 28C and 45C, respectively in the top image; 48C, 32C and 48C, respectively in the bot image. These screen shots were taken on separate HWMonitor executions, so they have different values. The 23Nov image has 50C, 37C and 53C, respectively. These earlier values were with the original MB, and show noticably higher temperatures.
There is fresh heat sink paste on the E-300 processor on the replacement MB. The exhaust port with the replaced MB feels warmer than it was with the original MB. But the fan still does not have noticable air flow. In fact I still can't hear it. Don't know what these temperature should be, as I have no idea where to check the specs for this MB. Why won''t the fan turn on at full speed anymore?
The HDD does seem slow; response time is significantly slower than it was even a year ago. The Butterfly read tests show most ops < 50 ms. I have no idea what seek time should be. How far out of expectations are these access times?

 

[jjwdeck]

Replacing the MB did not restore the high heat and large fan output. Finally replaced the HDD with a SSD. Fantastic response. Win7 boots in 30s and Win10 in just over a minute; the scheduling delays are gone (USB mouse still a little erratic). The top cover over the SSD is now cool.
The HDD monitor read tests respond in less than the minimum (<5ms 99.9% of time; 148 > 5ms out of 150,000 < 5ms ); previously the range was 50..150ms. Also the HW Monitor shows temperatures of 40C, 33C and 40C for the THZN (assembly, CPU?), SSD and GPU (display?), respectively. The ranges before replacing the SSD were previously measured at 50..58C, 37..39C and 53..59C, respectively.
Unfortunately, the DVD stopped working. So I swapped the MB back to the original and the DVD still reports an error to windows and cannot be used. Wonder if swapping MBs and parts so much damaged the DVD. Think the replacement MB had a little better response; maybe some heat damage to the original MB, but not sure. Now the heat flows out the exhaust port increase at times (feels a little warmer), but the fan does not run at high output anymore. Suggests the SSD does not need the higher cooling that used to be demanded with the old HDD (before the HDD SMART possibly stopped working properly; if that was the cause of the change in the fan output).
Suspect the problems were mostly related to the HDD over heating. But the high heat exhaust and large fan output occurred mostly when I was charging the battery while using the laptop. Want to avoid that. After the fan output nearly stopped, the scheduling problems became acute. I suspect this is when the temperature control became inadequate for the system. Hope no other problems manifest.