<font color=purple>"Sooooo your saying that XP isnt as good as M.E. and 98?"</font color=purple>
Hmmm. I think it's better, in most respects, simply because of the kernel. But I don't think it's completely ready for retail sale to consumers. Too many drivers are still not ready. Maybe in a few months. Microsoft was rushed to get the OS out the door to the OEM's. I still think that the Second Edition will be the version that most home users will end up with, just like with Win95-B OSR2, and Win98SE.
<font color=purple>"why would anyone by the standard edition? is like buying near beer lol"</font color=purple>
Media hype. Inadequate information. Bccause it will ship on most newer machines. By accident. Bcause it's cheaper than the Pro version. Because Billy-Bob down the street bought it, and says that it's a dream come true. Because they can!
Ignorance is bliss until you get it home and put it on your hard drive.
<font color=purple>"i'm Using the professional version and I have 768 megs of Ram and no problems at all."</font color=purple>
Good. That's a relief. Not having decent memory management in Win9x has been a problem for a long time. But Win2K functions great with 768MB, so where's the advantage of paying an extra $130 dollars? Pretty, rainbow colors and a green Start button?
<font color=purple>"Far as the Firewall "Provided by Norton who just made all there other software obselete once again" and CD burning Capibility "Povided by roxio who did the same thing"? have only hurt themselves certainly didnt slow me from using third party software of the same nature. and i Don't recall it being on any other o.s. so why would that be a strike? or a benefit?"</font color=purple>
I was thinking more specifically of Nero and ZoneAlarm. Norton and Roxio can go take a flying leap, as far as I'm concerned. The built-in firewall in XP isn't really secure, and the burning program offers little in the way of features.
<font color=purple>think this is amd,intel all over again</font color=purple>
Not in my opinion. This kind of situation definitely predates any such arguments, all the way back to Win3x, which I never cared for until v3.11 with 32-bit support was released.
<font color=purple>far as the video driver goes? unreal tourny quake3 and the voyager game, half-life and all its flavors. all work just fine with the default driver.</font color=purple>
I installed MDK2, and got an incredible 1 FPS during the resolution test with the default XP driver. I didn't even think about trying Half-Life, after that. I made a serious effort to install OpenGL drivers ... no luck at all. DirectX ... a different story.
<font color=purple>"The only thing I can put it to is those bubble gum motherboards you all buy."</font color=purple>
So THAT's the pink, sticky stuff on my undersized heatsink! One more mystery solved. Way to go! Mmmm, banana! Tastes good with throttled P4!
LOL!
<font color=purple>"Have you actually used the final version yet toey?
or you judging it off some beta copy?

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You've got me there. I ran the first two betas and quit. I didn't care enough for RC2 to check out the gold code yet. I'm sure that I'll be forced to drop it on a spare machine, just so I can provide technical support. But that doesn't mean I'll be installing it on my main, home-based system. Nothing is broken; everything works. That's what counts with me. And there are no advantages I can see to switching from Win2K to XP. Every game I have plays great, and all my programs run perfectly.
<font color=purple>"A) these are 98 users ok? is like night and day to them. there not used to being up and running for more than 5 mins at a crack lol"</font color=purple>
I can't argue with that logic! <GRIN>
<font color=purple>"B) most of these are pirated? doh? you think maybe? it might be a bad copy perchance? lol"</font color=purple>
God, I hope not. Mine wasn't. Let's not push it and force good 'ole Bill into sending someone into your home to install an image. .NET is bad enough.
<font color=purple>"I am not defending microsoft. even thou it sure as hell sounds that way right now. but id wait for ppl who actually try using xp longer than ONE hour. before passing judgement."</font color=purple>
Nice try. I used it for well over two months. I don't want to go there again.
You don't want to be thought of as defending MS. Well, then stop defending them! LOL!
Sorry. A rock and a hard place. I empathize.
See ya ...
Toejam31
P.S. Teletubbies? ROTFLMAO! Here comes Jerry ...
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