Question Trying to up grade my RAM and PSU good suggestions for a small budget?

[CoffeeStoreGuy]

I just bought a 7800xt, and I know it doesn't pair well with my CPU. I can't return I already bought it, and now sending it back would be a hassle. Although at 1440p I guarantee the bottleneck is going to there but not as bad as if it was at 1080p.

I looked at the PSU tier list and the PSU I'm looking at is in A-tier meets the minimum wattage recommendation, but someone told it should be "multi-rail" which I don't know what the means or if it even matters. I do have about $120 to spend on a PSU, but I'd prefer to save as much money as I can.

Here is my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3CYNz

Here is the PSU: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKY716F9?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

I can also buy the 850W if it is somehow substantially better.

Budget $130

 

[Aeacus]

1st off, RAM.
Your MoBo memory QVL: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...k_qvl_memory?model2Name=PRIME-B550M-A-WIFI-II

I suggest that you pick your new RAM from there, IF you want a guarantee that the new RAM works at given slots and at given speed. Else-ways, buying random RAM, you may risk the RAM either not working at all (if more than 1x DIMM) or not working at advertised speeds.

This takes care of the RAM, now, the PSU part;

but someone told it should be "multi-rail"

You can go and kick them into their crown jewels.

Multi-rail PSUs are actually worse than single-rail PSUs. Most multi-rail PSUs, nowadays, are low/crap quality units. There are some, that are great (like Corsair RMi/HXi/AXi), but it will cost a lot as well.

Main issue with multi-rail PSU is this:

Whereby, with multiple rails, you can overload one rail, triggering the PSU protections and shutting down the entire PC.

Also, you do not need to replace your PSU at all.
Review of your Tt unit: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-1000w-power-supply

While review is of 1kW unit, the same essentially applies to your 750W unit as well. Overall, a good quality PSU and would be waste of money to replace, especially since your Tt unit is less than 1 year old. If it would be 10 years old (or close to this), then PSU replacement would make sense.

meets the minimum wattage recommendation

So does 600W PSU.

RX 7800XT specs: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839

While it is suggested at least 600W PSU to power RX 7800XT, i prefer to have more wattage headroom. Since GPU is 263W, 750W unit does fine, which you already have.

Here is the PSU: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKY716F9?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

Do note that this PSU is SFX and not ATX. So, if you go with this one, you will need ATX to SFX PSU adapter bracket, since SFX PSU is much smaller than ATX PSU.

 

[CoffeeStoreGuy]

1st off, RAM.
Your MoBo memory QVL: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...k_qvl_memory?model2Name=PRIME-B550M-A-WIFI-II

I suggest that you pick your new RAM from there, IF you want a guarantee that the new RAM works at given slots and at given speed. Else-ways, buying random RAM, you may risk the RAM either not working at all (if more than 1x DIMM) or not working at advertised speeds.

This takes care of the RAM, now, the PSU part;

You can go and kick them into their crown jewels.

Multi-rail PSUs are actually worse than single-rail PSUs. Most multi-rail PSUs, nowadays, are low/crap quality units. There are some, that are great (like Corsair RMi/HXi/AXi), but it will cost a lot as well.

Main issue with multi-rail PSU is this:

Whereby, with multiple rails, you can overload one rail, triggering the PSU protections and shutting down the entire PC.

Also, you do not need to replace your PSU at all.
Review of your Tt unit: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-1000w-power-supply

While review is of 1kW unit, the same essentially applies to your 750W unit as well. Overall, a good quality PSU and would be waste of money to replace, especially since your Tt unit is less than 1 year old. If it would be 10 years old (or close to this), then PSU replacement would make sense.


So does 600W PSU.

RX 7800XT specs: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839

While it is suggested at least 600W PSU to power RX 7800XT, i prefer to have more wattage headroom. Since GPU is 263W, 750W unit does fine, which you already have.


Do note that this PSU is SFX and not ATX. So, if you go with this one, you will need ATX to SFX PSU adapter bracket, since SFX PSU is much smaller than ATX PSU.

You talking about my current PSU in my current build? The one above I don't have yet, but I am going to buy. Gives me a lot of security and it's A tier. My current PSU is actually bronze rated 650W

Here is my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCs89C

I had a bunch of people here and other places telling me that I computer parts would all die if I didn't get new power supply, but I don't have a problem with I've got some extra money and now I can buy one. I will change it now that you told me it was SFX. The one I'm looking at says it's ATX are you sure this an SFX PSU?

 

[Aeacus]

Then what is this?

Here is my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3CYNz

I see Tt unit there.

Here is my current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sCs89C

If so, then EVGA BP-series is low quality unit and new PSU is a must.

For new PSU, i suggest ATX 3.0/3.1 unit, in 750W range. Pick any you like from here: https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/3/

 

[CoffeeStoreGuy]

Then what is this?

I see Tt unit there.


If so, then EVGA BP-series is low quality unit and new PSU is a must.

For new PSU, i suggest ATX 3.0/3.1 unit, in 750W range. Pick any you like from here: https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/3/

Is this not a good tier list to look off of (https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/)? I was about to buy a thermaltake GF1 which is a tier A single rail PSU.

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CKY716F9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

 

[Aeacus]

Is this not a good tier list to look off of (https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/)? I was about to buy a thermaltake GF1 which is a tier A single rail PSU.

That cultists list is biased and very much so.

They favor Corsair the most, while considerably downplaying Seasonic.

For example; Seasonic Vertex.
They have it in the Tier A - speculative position, with the [14] note, which means:

[14] Potential ATX 3.0 units either not tested for compatibility (no Aris review), not received the certification (no entry in Intel’s DB), having problems with passing ATX 3.0 tests (failed Aris review), or without proper reviews in the first place to put them in the normal priority subtier.

But if you then look at Corsai HXi 2022, Corsair RMe 750/850W and Corsair SF-L, all of them have the same [14] note behind them. Yet, somehow, all of them are classified just fine into different categories. Based on their own logic, all those Corsair PSUs must be in the speculative position category as well, but aren't. Hence why that list is biased and favors Corsair the most.

To add to that as well, if you were to look their 2022 PSU buying guide,
link: https://cultists.network/3884/psu-buying-guide/

On every wattage range, they have Corsair PSU as #1.
Corsair is not the best PSU manufacturer out there. Nowhere near it. Corsair is perhaps the most known, but for sure, not the best. Hell, Corsair even doesn't make any of the PSUs they sell. Instead, Corsair is just a brand, that buys PSU OEM PSUs, e.g from Great Wall, Channel Well Technology, Seasonic; slaps their own name onto it and sells it as such.

When it comes to PSUs, the 3 best PSU OEMs (not brands) are (in no particular order): Seasonic, Super Flower and Flextronics.
E.g Corsair AX-series is made by Seasonic. While Corsair AXi-series is made by Flextronics.

PSU: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CKY716F9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

I linked Tt review for you. Good unit but also has some issues.

If you want Thermaltake PSU, then Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 750W would be much better,
review: https://hwbusters.com/psus/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-750w-psu-review/
amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Toughpower-Connectors-Crossfire-PS-TPD-0750FNFAGU-L/dp/B0C1JKB652

Personally, i'd get either Seasonic or Super Flower PSU.

 

[CoffeeStoreGuy]

That cultists list is biased and very much so.

They favor Corsair the most, while considerably downplaying Seasonic.

For example; Seasonic Vertex.
They have it in the Tier A - speculative position, with the [14] note, which means:


But if you then look at Corsai HXi 2022, Corsair RMe 750/850W and Corsair SF-L, all of them have the same [14] note behind them. Yet, somehow, all of them are classified just fine into different categories. Based on their own logic, all those Corsair PSUs must be in the speculative position category as well, but aren't. Hence why that list is biased and favors Corsair the most.

To add to that as well, if you were to look their 2022 PSU buying guide,
link: https://cultists.network/3884/psu-buying-guide/

On every wattage range, they have Corsair PSU as #1.
Corsair is not the best PSU manufacturer out there. Nowhere near it. Corsair is perhaps the most known, but for sure, not the best. Hell, Corsair even doesn't make any of the PSUs they sell. Instead, Corsair is just a brand, that buys PSU OEM PSUs, e.g from Great Wall, Channel Well Technology, Seasonic; slaps their own name onto it and sells it as such.

When it comes to PSUs, the 3 best PSU OEMs (not brands) are (in no particular order): Seasonic, Super Flower and Flextronics.
E.g Corsair AX-series is made by Seasonic. While Corsair AXi-series is made by Flextronics.


I linked Tt review for you. Good unit but also has some issues.

If you want Thermaltake PSU, then Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 750W would be much better,
review: https://hwbusters.com/psus/thermaltake-toughpower-gf-a3-750w-psu-review/
amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Toughpower-Connectors-Crossfire-PS-TPD-0750FNFAGU-L/dp/B0C1JKB652

Personally, i'd get either Seasonic or Super Flower PSU.

I'd go with those power supplies but a lot of them are out of my budget. I also looked up superflower on their website, and all of the Power supplies are set to $0 I don't think they're selling right now.

I also looked up what you and other people meant by ATX3.0, and I believe you are right that I do need this.

So I changed the one I'm looking at to a: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BF3YF9KY?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

 

[Aeacus]

So I changed the one I'm looking at to a: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BF3YF9KY?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Good PSU.
Review: https://hwbusters.com/psus/thermaltake-toughpower-gf3-850w-atx-v3-0-psu-review/

but a lot of them are out of my budget

Thing with PSUs (actually all hardware) is, that when you want good and cheap, you have to buy 2: the good one and the cheap one.
There are no good and cheap hardware out there, since good quality = better components, more care when it is produced and maybe even more time. Thus, good product, inherently will cost more than cheap product.