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You realize that there are free alternative windows software? OpenOffice, Gimp, Handbrake, Firefox/Chrome/Opera, 7zip... etc. Show us a single program in linux that doesn't have free alternative in windows, would you? Besides, game and driver (especially graphic drivers) supports of windows are much superior than that of linux.

In addition, Microsoft often open their activation server to let peoples activate their win7 FOR FREE! GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND!

p.s. I have both windows (seven) and linux (Fedora) installed on my PC. I can say that it's POSSIBLE for me to live without linux but NOT windows.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]I got rid of Linux of my server and put 2008RC2 on last year. I'll always play with Linux but it will never be mainstream. Too many kernels for it to ever be compete. ...and in this day and age you shouldn't have to use a terminal to install software. That and the fact there are way too many kernels is most of the reason why Linux will never be mainstream.[/citation]
Yep windows is the best for servers, that explains why linux dominates the server market.

Having a server without the a gui is the best solution. The gui has a very big overhead when compared with a system without it. A server isn't a workstation, I'm not gonna browse the web in it or edit a document. The only thing people should do on servers is just updating them, maintaining them and installing new services when needed, and in these aspects it's a lot faster using the cli than using the gui. For example lets say you have to add 2000+ users to a directory service and you have a file with all the names, user names, passwords,... Is it faster to introduce them all by hand (I'm even excluding the possibility of typing errors when you do this kind of work manually) or to create a script that reads the file an creates every user automatically?

The cli is such an unwanted feature in the server world that even microsoft has now the server core since windows 2008. If you don't know what server core is, it's basically a windows server without the windows explorer shell, so basically everything is done through cli or the remote management console.
 
Ubuntu rocks! I personally run LinuxMint at the house and it replaced wifes XP desktop. Also going to be using it for the church it works soo well! MINT is the way to go.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]-1Windows has many top notch web browsers (Firefox/Chrome/Opera/Maxthon/ChromePlus), better office (MS Office, although not free; and there's free OpenOffice available) and better photo editing software (Photoshop, although very expensive; and Gimps is there if you want something free). In addition, software that run on both Windows and Linux usually perform better on windows (e.g. Matlab).[/citation]
http://www.mathkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/matlab/22475/Matlab-7-0-Peformance-on-Linux-vs-Windows
 

That is a thread regarding Matlab 7 and was created in 2004.

Go ask Mathwork which OS Matlab2010 perform best on first. BTW, none of the linux system at my uni has matlab installed.


There ARE free windows 7 activation server randomly opened by MS.
 
ubuntu is fun to mess around with, but getting EVERY driver to work properly was a chore. when vista was the top dog at M$ i tried ubuntu, it was fun but the overall experience was lacking. if gaming wasn't so dependant on windows and if drivers were made for ubuntu/linux i would jump on board. as of now win7 64bit is the way to go for me. ubuntu is great for browsing and office work even downloading and watching media it's great but why can't it game?
 
[citation][nom]fyasko[/nom]ubuntu is fun to mess around with, but getting EVERY driver to work properly was a chore. when vista was the top dog at M$ i tried ubuntu, it was fun but the overall experience was lacking. if gaming wasn't so dependant on windows and if drivers were made for ubuntu/linux i would jump on board. as of now win7 64bit is the way to go for me. ubuntu is great for browsing and office work even downloading and watching media it's great but why can't it game?[/citation]

Because everything is made via directx and microsoft owns directx and won't allow it to play nicely with others.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]That is a thread regarding Matlab 7 and was created in 2004.Go ask Mathwork which OS Matlab2010 perform best on first. BTW, none of the linux system at my uni has matlab installed.[/citation]
http://blog.antonywilliams.com/2007/12/04/windows-vs-linux-benchmarks-with-matlab/
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]There ARE free windows 7 activation server randomly opened by MS.[/citation]
What? Could you please post me a link to an official MS source that says that they're activating windows freely?
 

1. Sigh, the one you posted is Matlab7.5 which was released 4 years ago. Anyway, just go and ask Mathwork which is what I did before purchasing windows version Matlab2010b.

2. MS of course don't officially say it but they do open free activation servers. Google is your friend!

p.s. Ubuntu is for home users/noobs. Fedora is the way for Linux.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]1. Sigh, the one you posted is Matlab7.5 which was released 4 years ago. Anyway, just go and ask Mathwork which is what I did before purchasing windows version Matlab2010b.2. MS of course don't officially say it but they do open free activation servers. Google is your friend!p.s. Ubuntu is for home users/noobs. Fedora is the way for Linux.[/citation]
So the performance of matlab changed all of a sudden. Also you're just talking about one program, could it be that the program was badly coded for the OS? It's like me giving the example that the Autodesk Maya on linux is way faster than on windows.

I've searched google and I didn't find any Microsoft free activation server. Also as long the computer don't have a microsoft license the OS it's still illegal whether you've activated it or not.

There is no such thing as the best linux distro. It all comes down to personal preference. In my main computer I use debian for instance. But I also have installed on other computers ubuntu, gentoo and fedora.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]What a raunchy guy you are! Too scared to come out without wearing mask, Vladislaus?[/citation]
Please don't make baseless accusations. I don't have a second account on this or any other site. If you don't believe me then ask to the moderator to check if the ip from the user is even from my country. So you lost a good chance to remain silent.
 

I don't need to as I know it.


All of a sudden?! Nah, it's been 4 years. And Matlab is not the only program that runs better on windows; FF4's hardware acceleration also runs better on windows thanks to the much better video driver support. As to Maya, the performance is hugely dependent on the processor/graphic instead of OS and there are also some situations which Maya runs better on windows.

You can't find any free activation server? Let me tell you why. It's because your searching skill sucks and this is also the reason why all of your comments are based on what you think instead of facts. Wait... windows 7 activated with free MS server is still not legal copy? Who cares as long as it works and updates as well as the legal ones FOR FREE.

All linux are the same? Sigh. Don't comment on any linux article while you don't even know that different linuxs are for different purposes! Ubuntu is only useful to home users who will have best experience with windows. Fedora is best for workstations in which linux shines.

p.s. Fedora Project innovates, develops some of the most important technologies used by other GNU/Linux based distros, including Ubuntu.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]I don't need to as I know it.[/citation]
Whatever...
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]All of a sudden?! Nah, it's been 4 years. And Matlab is not the only program that runs better on windows; FF4's hardware acceleration also runs better on windows thanks to the much better video driver support. As to Maya, the performance is hugely dependent on the processor/graphic instead of OS and there are also some situations which Maya runs better on windows.[/citation]
I certainly laughed at this. Have you ever wondered why almost all render farms run linux/unix instead of windows?
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]You can't find any free activation server? Let me tell you why. It's because your searching skill sucks and this is also the reason why all of your comments are based on what you think instead of facts. Wait... windows 7 activated with free MS server is still not legal copy? Who cares as long as it works and updates as well as the legal ones FOR FREE.[/citation]
Like I said post me prof that that Microsoft activates windows 7 freely for those that have a pirated version.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]All linux are the same? Sigh. Don't comment on any linux article while you don't even know that different linuxs are for different purposes! Ubuntu is only useful to home users who will have best experience with windows. Fedora is best for workstations in which linux shines. p.s. Fedora Project innovates, develops some of the most important technologies used by other GNU/Linux based distros, including Ubuntu.[/citation]
You're putting words in my mouth that I never said. I NEVER said that all distros are the same. The reason Ubuntu is the most popular distro is because it's also the easiest to use. Now for some it's the best distro out there and for others it isn't. Like I said personal preference.
The distro I usually use when I sell a server or workstation to a client is RHEL, it's not free but it's also the best solution. It has a release cycle of 2 years instead of 6 month in the case of fedora, and fedora only supports a version for 13 months. I do like to play with fedora because we can see what will be implemented in future releases of RHEL.
 

1) Yeah, whatever, faceless man.

2) Popularity != Performance. And talking about popularity, there are a lot more software run mostly on windows which is the most popular OS out there!

3) LMAO at your ignorance. Many peoples download the original copy of Win7 from MSTN(Microsoft TechNet) and activate it when free server opened! You called Win7 downloaded from MSDN a pirate copy?

4) Aren't you the biggest fan of FREE OS? Weren't you the one who bashed windows for it not being free? Now you finally admit that the paid OS (i.e. RHEL) is better.
Windows -> best for Home users
RHEL -> best for Workstations
Fedora -> good for Workstations & free
Other Linux (inc. Ubuntu) -> much worse than windows for home users and useless for workstations
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Noob. Nuf said
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]1) Yeah, whatever, faceless man.2) Popularity != Performance. And talking about popularity, there are a lot more software run mostly on windows which is the most popular OS out there!3) LMAO at your ignorance. Many peoples download the original copy of Win7 from MSTN(Microsoft TechNet) and activate it when free server opened! You called Win7 downloaded from MSDN a pirate copy?4) Aren't you the biggest fan of FREE OS? Weren't you the one who bashed windows for it not being free? Now you finally admit that the paid OS (i.e. RHEL) is better.Noob. Nuf said[/citation]

How far up red hat's ass are you? gotta be digging in pretty deep, i must say. Fedora is awesome, but if you crave stability (and lots of workstations do) a lot of people go debian.

Ubuntu isn't easier to use than windows, nor the easiest linux distro to use (that would be PCLinuxOS), but provides the most marketable and attractive linux operating system in a long time. You can hate ubuntu and canonical for a number of reasons, and some people do, but they provide something that the other distros don't: a thriving and increasing linux population. And the one thing preventing me from dumping windows entirely is a larger linux population to bring more apps.

I can practically see you pushing your glasses up, hammering away at the keys in that ever-so-sad "my distro is better than yours" attitude that's plagued linux for ages. Ddo us all a favor and quit belittling and bad-mouthing other distros and stfu. You're making the penguin mad.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]1) Yeah, whatever, faceless man.2) Popularity != Performance. And talking about popularity, there are a lot more software run mostly on windows which is the most popular OS out there!3) LMAO at your ignorance. Many peoples download the original copy of Win7 from MSTN(Microsoft TechNet) and activate it when free server opened! You called Win7 downloaded from MSDN a pirate copy?4) Aren't you the biggest fan of FREE OS? Weren't you the one who bashed windows for it not being free? Now you finally admit that the paid OS (i.e. RHEL) is better.Noob. Nuf said[/citation]

2 - here you go saying things I never said. Did I ever said that popularity equals performance? It's also obvious that windows is the os with the largest portfolio of software since it's installed on 90% of computer worldwide.

3 - The Microsoft TechNet version of windows 7 is only legal and operational for 90 days. beyond that it becomes an illegal OS if you continue to use it. And I've yet to see you post any proof that Microsoft opened up an activation server for people to activate it freely without a proper oem/retail/vlk license.

4 - With red hat you're basically paying is the support not the os itself. In fact rhel is basically a fedora distro with the added support.

5 - Apparently many people disagree with you that all other distros are useless. Specially considering that Ubuntu and Mint are more popular than Fedora.
 

1)
Too shameful to admit what dumb comments you made?

Vladislaus wrote:
Have you ever wondered why almost all render farms run linux/unix instead of windows?
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You tried to persuade us that linux is better OS for Maya by saying that most of them run on linux

Vladislaus wrote:
You're putting words in my mouth that I never said. I NEVER said that all distros are the same.
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Vladislaus wrote: "There is no such thing as the best linux distro. It all comes down to personal preference."
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-> Implies that all linux are as good and users' choice are based on preference instead of performance.

2) What a dumb ass you are. Who cares as long as TechNet Win7 activated with free activation server still works and updates as the legal copy FOREVER (instead of merely 90 days)?! Cry more, son.

BTW, MS unofficially did this on purpose to get peoples migrate from windows XP to 7. Proof of MS's free OS activation server? You can't fkn Google, can you? Fail!

3) Wrong! Only the $299 Desktop version has support and the server version are much more expensive than windows.
https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/
https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/

In addition, RHEL is not just a fedora distro with the added support but also a MORE MATURE OS.

Now admit it that you get what you paid for. FREE? Sorry, go help yourself out when running into troubles.

4) Why do most linux peoples use Ubuntu instead of Fedora? Because the majority linux HOME users are fkn noobs like you who would choose Ubuntu for home use.
As I said,
Windows -> best for Home users
RHEL -> best for Workstations
Fedora -> good for Workstations & free
Other Linux (inc. Ubuntu) -> much worse than windows for home users and useless for workstations
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5) Now I will turn your words back to you.
Apparently most peoples disagree with you that linux is better than windows. Specially considering that windows are much much much more popular than any of the linux.
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Now you can stfu, son.
 
Agree. Linux is never meant for noobs who would choose Ubuntu. The OS is for real PROs whose choices are always Fedora or RHEL. Ubuntu users stop pretending to be a PRO and shut up already.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]You tried to persuade us that linux is better OS for Maya by saying that most of them run on linux.[/citation]
I mentioned Maya because you've said that windows programs worked bad in linux when it's not true, even though there are a few exceptions. I also never said that most computers with maya were running linux, of course you would have known that if you knew what a render farm is.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]-> Implies that all linux are as good and users' choice are based on preference instead of performance.[/citation]
No it doesn't imply that all linux distros are just as good or just as fast or whatever. People use windows or linux of mac os... because of personal preference (for some it's the aesthetics, for others it's their familiarity with the os,...) not because it's the fastest.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]What a dumb ass you are. Who cares as long as TechNet Win7 activated with free activation server still works and updates as the legal copy FOREVER (instead of merely 90 days)?! Cry more, son. BTW, MS unofficially did this on purpose to get peoples migrate from windows XP to 7. Proof of MS's free OS activation server? You can't fkn Google, can you? Fail![/citation]
Since you're unwillingly to post a link to anything that relates to this I'm gonna assume it doesn't exist.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]Wrong! Only the $299 Desktop version has support and the server version are much more expensive than windows.[/citation]
Yep windows 2008 r2 is cheaper. Prices start at $1029 where as RHLE start at $349. Don't forget that if you want premium support or essential support for your windows server you must also pay a yearly subscription.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]Now admit it that you get what you paid for. FREE? Sorry, go help yourself out when running into troubles.[/citation]
I admit that there are software out there that are worth every penny, and I NEVER stated otherwise.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]5) Now I will turn your words back to you.
Apparently most peoples disagree with you that linux is better than windows. Specially considering that windows are much much much more popular than any of the linux.
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[/citation]
Did I bashed windows? No! Did I said that Windows is a bad OS? No! Did I said that people shouldn't use it? No! You're the one that's been doing all the bashing.
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]Now you can stfu, son.[/citation]
Since you're not civilized and can't have a educated discussion without resorting to name calling let's leave it at that. When you grow up then we can continue this conversation.
 
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