Unallocated space: What's wrong?

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"h2so4" <elly.fant@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mr Hopkins! I will not have the staff throwing chalk at the students. See
> me in my study after assembly.
>
> The Headmaster.
>

 

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"h2so4" wrote in message...
> Mr Hopkins! I will not have the staff throwing chalk at the students.
> See me in my study after assembly.

I never throw chalk at the brats I'll have you know. I use paperclips,
projected by a fiendishly designed and incredibly accurate crossbow, made
with three rulers, rubber bands, sellotape and a tin tack. Keeps the little
turds quiet and learning, which is what they're bally well there for.
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> Richard Hopkins wrote:
> "aether" wrote in message...
> > I was forced to reformat.
>
> Why? Seemed like you had everything pretty much licked. Also, when
you say
> you've reformatted, do you literally just mean that you reformatted
the C:\
> partition and reinstalled WinXP, or did you *completely* wipe and
> repartition the disk?

I was in the process of setting up a home network, but wasn't quite
connected yet. The ethernet card wasn't installed. At that moment,
after a reboot, Windows demanded the activation key. It prevented me
from logging onto windows, despite there being '30 days left for
activation'. I couldn't activate when not connected. I reformatted the
c: drive, and deleted the other partition.

>
> > After reformatting both drives (one drive, two partitions), it
states an
> > accurate capacity (200 GB),
>
> "It" states? What, exactly is "it"? Your prefernece to omit important

> information continues unabated it would appear.

The OS. (XP home)


>
> > but still lists free space as 129 GB.
>
> This means f**k all without knowing exactly what you are referring to
here.
> Disk Manager? Explorer? A third party utility, what?
>
> Also, when you say that "free space [is] 129GB", is this the free
space of
> the two partitions added together, the free space on the C:\
partition,
> what?

It's a 200GB hard drive. Initially, the problem which brought about
this thread, was that Windows wasn't showing the accurate drive size.
However, I was able to partition the 'unallocated space'. Now, it's
showing up, but the option of partitioning the 'unallocated space'
doesn't exist. When I say the OS is 'showing it', that's only when I
right-click properties on the drive in windows explorer. (Capacity:
203,921,108,992 (189 GB) It also states, in properties, that used space
is 76.6 GB -- when I've practically nothing installed. When I click on
a folder, it states 'disk free space: 113GB'.


>
> > It's recognizing the drive beyond the limit set by MS,
>
> Again, what is "it"? If you want us to help you, you're going to have
to
> come up with better than this. What, exactly, does Disk Management
say about
> your disk?

Disk management states the drive is: 189.92 GB NTFS Healthy


>
> > but now I can't partition it. It states used space as 73 GB,
>
> It, it, it, it. Where, exactly, is this "used space"? Is it on your
C:\
> partition or the D:\ partition?

I don't know where the used space is. There's no option in disk
management to recover it, though. (unlike the first time)


>
> > but essentially all I've got installed is XP.
>
> Have you installed SP2? Have you tried running Scandisk? Can you
still see
> both C:\ and D:\ (or whatever) in Explorer?

Everything's installed.

 

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> Keeps the little turds quiet and learning, which is what they're bally
> well there for.

Fair enough...

🙂

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
> I couldn't activate when not connected.

Couldn't you have phoned the hotline? Either way I don't see why installing
a network card would have locked you out of your installation, unless you
were running an illegal software key.

> I reformatted the c: drive, and deleted the other partition.

Deleting the second partition was probably a mistake in the circumstances.

>> "It" states? What, exactly is "it"?
>
> The OS. (XP home)

Jeesh, what *specific* part of the OS? Explorer?

> It's a 200GB hard drive. Initially, the problem which brought
> about this thread, was that Windows wasn't showing the
> accurate drive size.

Yeah, we know about that. The fix was installing SP1 or greater.

> However, I was able to partition the 'unallocated space'. Now, it's
> showing up, but the option of partitioning the 'unallocated space'
> doesn't exist.

Again, where, exactly is it "showing up"? This continual failure to give us
the full story makes it bloody difficult for any of us to help you, which
isn't doing you any favours, is it?

What size does Disk Management report for the:
1) Primary Partition?
2) Secondary partition (if any)?
3) Logical drive(s) in the secondary partition (if present)?

> Disk management states the drive is: 189.92 GB NTFS Healthy

So Disk Management reports the primary partition as being 180-something GB?,
and doesn't mention a secondary partition?

> I don't know where the used space is. There's no option in disk
> management to recover it, though. (unlike the first time)

Looks a bit like your reformat/partition delete-reinstall vanilla XP process
has screwed up the partition table. Have you tried looking at the disk with
Partition Magic or a similar third party disk provisioning tool?
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> Richard Hopkins wrote:>
> Looks a bit like your reformat/partition delete-reinstall vanilla XP
process
> has screwed up the partition table. Have you tried looking at the
disk with
> Partition Magic or a similar third party disk provisioning tool?
> --
>
>
> Richard Hopkins
> Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
> (replace nospam with pipex in reply address)
>
> The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com

I refuse to spend $90 on Partition Magic in order to fix a problem
caused by faulty software. (XP's limited ability to recognize large
drives) There must be another way to recover this 'used' (nonexistent)
hard drive space. Since I deleted the partition in FDISK, why wouldn't
I have the same problem as before? (not recognizing it, but able to
partition the 'unallocates space') Again, this is caused by outdated
software. It's ridiculous to have such difficulty recognizing large
hard drives in 2005. Hard drives with over 120GB of space have been
around for apprx. four years.

 

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I didn't mention that the partitioned drive had nothing on it. It was
completely blank. (unused) Recovery of files isn't the issue here. I
want the space from the partition back.

 

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if you had been doing a fresh install of XP that INCLUDED SP1 or SP2
slipstreamed into them, then you would probably not be fighting this issue.
since you went back to the original version of XP (at least as far as I can
understand it...) you are faced with the same issue.

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Richard Hopkins wrote:>
>> Looks a bit like your reformat/partition delete-reinstall vanilla XP
> process
>> has screwed up the partition table. Have you tried looking at the
> disk with
>> Partition Magic or a similar third party disk provisioning tool?
>> --
>>
>>
>> Richard Hopkins
>> Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
>> (replace nospam with pipex in reply address)
>>
>> The UK's leading technology reseller www.dabs.com
>
> I refuse to spend $90 on Partition Magic in order to fix a problem
> caused by faulty software. (XP's limited ability to recognize large
> drives) There must be another way to recover this 'used' (nonexistent)
> hard drive space. Since I deleted the partition in FDISK, why wouldn't
> I have the same problem as before? (not recognizing it, but able to
> partition the 'unallocates space') Again, this is caused by outdated
> software. It's ridiculous to have such difficulty recognizing large
> hard drives in 2005. Hard drives with over 120GB of space have been
> around for apprx. four years.
>

 

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've got a different problem now.
>
> I was forced to reformat. After reformatting both drives (one drive,
> two partitions), it states an accurate capacity (200 GB), but still
> lists free space as 129 GB. It's recognizing the drive beyond the limit
> set by MS, but now I can't partition it. It states used space as 73 GB,
> but essentially all I've got installed is XP.
>

You installed with your old XP disk so of course your going to
have the same problems with large disks.
Create an slipstreamed disk with SP2 and use that to install XP
http://www.msfn.org/articles.php?action=show&showarticle=49

Jim M

 

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It seems that, unless I purchase partition magic, one way or another,
I'm going to have to reformat.

 

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Came across something interesting. I went to run in the start menu and
typed 'chkdsk', and for the brief moment that it appears, I saw this:
'WARNING! F parameter not specified'

Now, 'F:' was the partition drive letter. What's this mean, exactly?

 

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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Came across something interesting. I went to run in the start menu and
> typed 'chkdsk', and for the brief moment that it appears, I saw this:
> 'WARNING! F parameter not specified'
>
> Now, 'F:' was the partition drive letter. What's this mean, exactly?
>

 

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Mission accomplished! I ran 'check disk' (disk check, error-checking)
at restart (drive properties, 'tools'), and after waiting awhile for it
to finish (much longer than usual), the OS now recognizes the entire
hard drive. Once again, I appreciate all the help I received here.

 

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Good show! Glad you got is squared away in spite of Richard's help ;-)
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"aether" <vercingetorix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mission accomplished! I ran 'check disk' (disk check, error-checking)
> at restart (drive properties, 'tools'), and after waiting awhile for it
> to finish (much longer than usual), the OS now recognizes the entire
> hard drive. Once again, I appreciate all the help I received here.
>