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Yes everything which you have outlined. I would like some ray tracing as well to get better lighting inside my games.

I would like:

  1. 2k/4k 144hz in ultra settings in games like GTA-V, red dead, cyberpunk and other games like this.
  2. Ultra Ray tracing
  3. Minecraft in ultra shaders
  4. Streaming/recording games at same time while keeping the frames up
  5. Want a really fast computer in general for everything
I was running a 7700k /1080 Ti system for nearly 4 years and I built a new PC... not only for gaming but for all the video work I do... which justified the 3090 purchase. Gaming only, go 3080.

AMD is currently on top for gaming.
By margins that most wouldn't notice... or care about. I went Intel because the chip was available at retail price. The AMD chips have a scalper tax attached... which makes them a much worse value overall. I don't care how good the 5950x is... it's not worth nearly 2.5x the price of the 10900k... but that's what scalpers have them listed for on eBay... and people are paying it. :LOL::ROFLMAO:

To each their own.

But ussually comes at a higher price.
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I was running a 7700k /1080 Ti system for nearly 4 years and I built a new PC... not only for gaming but for all the video work I do... which justified the 3090 purchase. Gaming only, go 3080.



By margins that most wouldn't notice... or care about. I went Intel because the chip was available at retail price. The AMD chips have a scalper tax attached... which makes them a much worse value overall. I don't care how good the 5950x is... it's not worth nearly 2.5x the price of the 10900k... but that's what scalpers have them listed for on eBay... and people are paying it. :LOL::ROFLMAO:

To each their own.
I agree on both things.
thats why i said in the post right below the one you first quoted that its not really worth paying $500+ on a cpu that you will just be gaming on.
Really small difference in gaming between a solid 10400F and idk a 5800X,especially when we conisder the price not only for the CPU,but for the ram and the motherboard.
 
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I agree on both things.
thats why i said in the post right below the one you first quoted that its not really worth paying $500+ on a cpu that you will just be gaming on.
Really small difference in gaming between a solid 10400F and idk a 5800X,especially when we conisder the price not only for the CPU,but for the ram and the motherboard.
No worries man, I saw that after the quote which is why I added your 2nd quote to my post... but yeah, I agree too. I'd have done a lesser CPU than a 10900k if I were gaming only... but I wanted the cores for the video work in addition to the 3090. It makes a big difference encoding and OMG is it a night and day improvement over the 7700k. It obviously helps with gaming too...


MSFS2020 is right up there too as far as demanding goes... it's also poorly optimized. It's playable on my system in 4K ultra but I'm averaging about 40 fps and it's not really a huge deal because it's a flight simulator. VR is the new thing though and since it came out that's all I've been using with similar framerate on a high setting. The VR alone is worth the price of admission. My god it's amazing with the G2 headset.

What's funny is I bought CP2077 on release date... and haven't played it yet. I haven't even loaded it. All I've done is install it and do patch updates with GOG. I've heard so many complaints about it and I've been tied up with MSFS2020 and just haven't gotten around to CP2077.

Maybe I'll try it this weekend... :ROFLMAO::LOL:
 
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No worries man, I saw that after the quote which is why I added your 2nd quote to my post... but yeah, I agree too. I'd have done a lesser CPU than a 10900k if I were gaming only... but I wanted the cores for the video work in addition to the 3090. It makes a big difference encoding and OMG is it a night and day improvement over the 7700k. It obviously helps with gaming too...




MSFS2020 is right up there too as far as demanding goes... it's also poorly optimized. It's playable on my system in 4K ultra but I'm averaging about 40 fps and it's not really a huge deal because it's a flight simulator. VR is the new thing though and since it came out that's all I've been using with similar framerate on a high setting. The VR alone is worth the price of admission. My god it's amazing with the G2 headset.

What's funny is I bought CP2077 on release date... and haven't played it yet. I haven't even loaded it. All I've done is install it and do patch updates with GOG. I've heard so many complaints about it and I've been tied up with MSFS2020 and just haven't gotten around to CP2077.

Maybe I'll try it this weekend... :ROFLMAO::LOL:
Cyberpunk seems a bit boring to me gameplay wise,and honestly there is so many things you can do that it almost becomes unclear to me what the actual goal is.But i cant really judge a game i havent played so ill stay neutral about it.
 
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Cyberpunk seems a bit boring to me gameplay wise,and honestly there is so many things you can do that it almost becomes unclear to me what the actual goal is.But i cant really judge a game i havent played so ill stay neutral about it.
what will be the next AAA game in 2021 ?
 

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Cyberpunk seems a bit boring to me gameplay wise,and honestly there is so many things you can do that it almost becomes unclear to me what the actual goal is.But i cant really judge a game i havent played so ill stay neutral about it.
I'll post my thoughts when I get around to playing it. I definitely want to try it and I'm sure it will be beautiful with the 3090 and RT... but again, just been tied up with MSFS2020 and I'm still playing RDR2 for crying out loud... LOL I'll probably get around to it soon though, I am kinda anxious to see how close I can get to 4K ultra 60 fps with my system.

what will be the next AAA game in 2021 ?
I've heard good things about Hitman 3 that just came out... and it apparently is optimized very well. I haven't bought it yet but am considering it. MSFS2020 is truly amazing if you're into flight sims but just needs a little optimization work as does CP2077 from what I hear.
 
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I'll post my thoughts when I get around to playing it. I definitely want to try it and I'm sure it will be beautiful with the 3090 and RT... but again, just been tied up with MSFS2020 and I'm still playing RDR2 for crying out loud... LOL I'll probably get around to it soon though, I am kinda anxious to see how close I can get to 4K ultra 60 fps with my system.



I've heard good things about Hitman 3 that just came out... and it apparently is optimized very well. I haven't bought it yet but am considering it. MSFS2020 is truly amazing if you're into flight sims but just needs a little optimization work as does CP2077 from what I hear.
With the games you said like Hitman 3 and Microsoft flight simulator. Will there be much difference in performance between the 3080 and the 3090 card ?
 
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I'll post my thoughts when I get around to playing it. I definitely want to try it and I'm sure it will be beautiful with the 3090 and RT... but again, just been tied up with MSFS2020 and I'm still playing RDR2 for crying out loud... LOL I'll probably get around to it soon though, I am kinda anxious to see how close I can get to 4K ultra 60 fps with my system.



I've heard good things about Hitman 3 that just came out... and it apparently is optimized very well. I haven't bought it yet but am considering it. MSFS2020 is truly amazing if you're into flight sims but just needs a little optimization work as does CP2077 from what I hear.
3090 should deliver 60fps with max settings 4k with rtx,judging by this video.
 
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Far cry 6,Resident Evil 8,Hitman 3,either nfs 2021 or forza horizon 5,Ark 2 with Vin Diesel xD,Star Wars game by Ubisoft,Dying light 2,overwatch 2, are the only games i can think of right now
Cool . And would the 3080 and 3090 be able to run all of them games pretty much the same performance?
 
Cool . And would the 3080 and 3090 be able to run all of them games pretty much the same performance?
Far cry 6,Resident Evil 8,NFS 2021 or Forza 5,ARK 2,Star Wars,Dying light would be more GPU bound then cpu.
But 3080 should achieve more than 60fps with settings and all that in every game i listed.
OverWatch 2 is a first person shooter so its more cpu bound than gpu,and i think you will see more than 300 fps on competitive settings.
 

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Far cry 6,Resident Evil 8,NFS 2021 or Forza 5,ARK 2,Star Wars,Dying light would be more GPU bound then cpu.
But 3080 should achieve more than 60fps with settings and all that in every game i listed.
OverWatch 2 is a first person shooter so its more cpu bound than gpu,and i think you will see more than 300 fps on competitive settings.
should I wait for the 3080 TI which should be released this year some time like in March ?
 

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