[SOLVED] Upgrade from FX-8350

[Anzar412]

Hi Guys,
I am planning to upgrade from FX-8350 to something latest. Target is for 1080p ultra gaming. I have RX580 GPU, which I will upgrade later once GPU prices come down. Please suggest which option should I go with?
Budget is 30K to 40K. Prices are in Indian rupee, and taken from mdcomputers.in

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	Price	Component	Alternate 1	Alternate 2
Processor	15100	Intel i5 10400F
Motherboard	13700	Gigabyte B560M Aorus PRO	Asus TUF Gaming B560M-Plus
RAM	8800	2X8GB Corsair Vengeance Lpx 3000 CL16
Processor	18599	Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard	12800	MSI B550-A PRO	Aus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus	MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
RAM	9200	2X8GB Corsair Vengeance Lpx 3200 CL16

PS: Request you not to start war of AMD vs Intel.

Current Rig:
CPU : AMD FX 8350 AM3+
Cooler : Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO
GPU : SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 580 PULSE OC Lite 8GB
Mobo : Gigabyte GA-970-Gaming AMD G1 Gaming
RAM : Corsair Vengeance 2x8 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
SSD-1 : CRUCIAL P1 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
SSD-2 : Western Digital WD Green 240 GB 2.5 inch SATA III Internal
HDD : Seagate Barracuda 1TB, 2XSeagate Barracuda 2TB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB
PSU : Deepcool DQ-750EVO 80+ Gold
WLAN card : TP-LINK Archer T5E AC1200 Wi-Fi Bluetooth 4.2 PCI Express Adapter
DVD Drive : Samsung DVD Writer

 

[geofelt]

I would think the I5-10400F would perform better.
Here is a review of the i3-10100 which includes some data points for the 10400f.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i3-10100/15.html
The 10100 shows about equal to the 3600.
10400f a bit stronger.

On ram, slower/cheaper 2666 ram on the 10400f will work equally well.
You may want faster ram for the 3600.

On motherboards, do you need MATX to fit your case?
Are there other features of a motherboard that you need. wifi, for instance?

 

[Zerk2012]

With the Intel motherboard and that processor the memory will only run @2666 but that's no big deal. I would get the Intel but add a decent aftermarket cooler.

 

[Anzar412]

I would think the I5-10400F would perform better.
Here is a review of the i3-10100 which includes some data points for the 10400f.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i3-10100/15.html
The 10100 shows about equal to the 3600.
10400f a bit stronger.

On ram, slower/cheaper 2666 ram on the 10400f will work equally well.
You may want faster ram for the 3600.

On motherboards, do you need MATX to fit your case?
Are there other features of a motherboard that you need. wifi, for instance?

2666 RAM are costlier/equal than 3000 here.

MATX is just a choice, my cabinet can fit ATX as well. I saw Hardware Unboxed video about B560 VRM and finalized it.
I have updated my current rig in question, I have AC1200 card already.

 

[Why_Me]

2666 RAM are costlier/equal than 3000 here.

MATX is just a choice, my cabinet can fit ATX as well. I saw Hardware Unboxed video about B560 VRM and finalized it.
I have updated my current rig in question, I have AC1200 card already.

3200Mhz RAM with that intel build.

Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

Intel's new Core i5-10400F offers a large performance jump over the previous generation Core i5-9400F because of its six-core/twelve-thread design. In this Core i5-10400F review we also test the feasibility of overclocking through BCLK, or by relaxing the PL1 and PL2 Turbo Limits.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[SkyNetRising]

With the Intel motherboard and that processor the memory will only run @2666 but that's no big deal.

B560 boards support memory overclocking - up to 5333mhz.

 

[SkyNetRising]

MATX is just a choice, my cabinet can fit ATX as well. I saw Hardware Unboxed video about B560 VRM and finalized it.

If you go with Intel B560 board, then choose 11th gen cpu (not 10th gen) or you loose one M.2 on the board. One of M.2 slots will be not operational.

 

[Anzar412]

If you go with Intel B560 board, then choose 11th gen cpu (not 10th gen) or you loose one M.2 on the board. One of M.2 slots will be not operational.

Looking into 11th gen (11400F) as well, but they are bit costlier and less available.

 

[Zerk2012]

B560 boards support memory overclocking - up to 5333mhz.

Next time before you down vote READ !!!!!!!!!!!!

1. 11th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7/i5 processors:
   Support for DDR4 5333(O.C.)/ DDR4 5133(O.C.)/DDR4 5000(O.C.)/4933(O.C.)/4800(O.C.)/ 4700(O.C.)/ 4600(O.C.)/ 4500(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.)/ 4300(O.C.)/4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3666(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 3000 / 2933 / 2800 / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules
2. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7 processors:
   Support for DDR4 2933/2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules
3. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5/i3 /Pentium®/Celeron® processors:
   Support for DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-1x/sp#sp

 

[SkyNetRising]

Next time before you down vote READ !!!!!!!!!!!!

1. 11th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7/i5 processors:
   Support for DDR4 5333(O.C.)/ DDR4 5133(O.C.)/DDR4 5000(O.C.)/4933(O.C.)/4800(O.C.)/ 4700(O.C.)/ 4600(O.C.)/ 4500(O.C.)/ 4400(O.C.)/ 4300(O.C.)/4266(O.C.) / 4133(O.C.) / 4000(O.C.) / 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3666(O.C.) / 3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) / 3200 / 3000 / 2933 / 2800 / 2666 / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules
2. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i9/i7 processors:
   Support for DDR4 2933/2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules
3. 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5/i3 /Pentium®/Celeron® processors:
   Support for DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-1x/sp#sp

Those are native ram speeds for 10th gen cpus.
B560 supports memory overclocking. That means it can run faster than cpu native speed (as long as ram is rated for those frequencies).

For example Asrock B560 Pro4 lists this:
- 10th Gen Intel® Core™ Processors support DDR4 non-ECC, un-buffered memory up to 4600+(OC)*
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560 Pro4/index.asp#Specification

 

[Zerk2012]

3200Mhz RAM with that intel build.

Intel Core i5-10400F Review - Six Cores with HT for Under $200

Intel's new Core i5-10400F offers a large performance jump over the previous generation Core i5-9400F because of its six-core/twelve-thread design. In this Core i5-10400F review we also test the feasibility of overclocking through BCLK, or by relaxing the PL1 and PL2 Turbo Limits.

www.techpowerup.com

That is using a Z490 motherboard.

Test System "Comet Lake"
Processor:	All Intel 10th Generation processors​
Motherboard:	ASUS Z490 Maximus XII Extreme Intel Z490, BIOS 0508​

 

[Zerk2012]

Those are native ram speeds for 10th gen cpus.
B560 supports memory overclocking. That means it can run faster than cpu native speed (as long as ram is rated for those frequencies).

For example Asrock B560 Pro4 lists this:
- 10th Gen Intel® Core™ Processors support DDR4 non-ECC, un-buffered memory up to 4600+(OC)*
https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B560 Pro4/index.asp#Specification

That is fine for that motherboard but it's not the one listed.

 

[Why_Me]

That is using a Z490 motherboard.

Test System "Comet Lake"
Processor:	All Intel 10th Generation processors​
Motherboard:	ASUS Z490 Maximus XII Extreme Intel Z490, BIOS 0508​

Intel B560 boards allow for memory OC. The two boards listed in the OP are linked down below.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-rev-10#kf

TUF GAMING B560M-PLUS｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming series distills essential elements of the latest AMD and Intel® platforms, and combines them with game-ready features and proven durability. Engineered with military-grade components, an upgraded power solution and a comprehensive set of cooling options, this motherboard delivers...

www.asus.com

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Only thing is depending on the board you may not have much of an upgrade path. I saw a video where they put a b550 board with an upper end ryzen, and a b560 with an i7. In their testing the i7 got throttled back a bit by the b560 board.

Don’t get me wrong, the 10400 is probably a great cpu, but just pointing out there may be more limitations in the case of upgrading. But either the ryzen 5 3600 or the i5 is going to be a huge upgrade from the FX 8350. I used to have an FX 8150 and an FX 6300. Even had the 6300 overclocked for a while. I later updated to ryzen. Big difference.

 

[Why_Me]

Only thing is depending on the board you may not have much of an upgrade path. I saw a video where they put a b550 board with an upper end ryzen, and a b560 with an i7. In their testing the i7 got throttled back a bit by the b560 board.

Don’t get me wrong, the 10400 is probably a great cpu, but just pointing out there may be more limitations in the case of upgrading. But either the ryzen 5 3600 or the i5 is going to be a huge upgrade from the FX 8350. I used to have an FX 8150 and an FX 6300. Even had the 6300 overclocked for a while. I later updated to ryzen. Big difference.

I'm guessing you're referring to the hardware unboxed video where they used an i9 1900K w/stock cooler while comparing $100 entry level B560 boards to $150 - $200 B560 boards. It's all about the VRM's. If you have a cheap board with crappy VRM's then yes the Intel 11 gen. cpu's are going to throttle down when they warm up.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144396
MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA $139.99

 

[Anzar412]

Only thing is depending on the board you may not have much of an upgrade path. I saw a video where they put a b550 board with an upper end ryzen, and a b560 with an i7. In their testing the i7 got throttled back a bit by the b560 board.

Don’t get me wrong, the 10400 is probably a great cpu, but just pointing out there may be more limitations in the case of upgrading. But either the ryzen 5 3600 or the i5 is going to be a huge upgrade from the FX 8350. I used to have an FX 8150 and an FX 6300. Even had the 6300 overclocked for a while. I later updated to ryzen. Big difference.

Some of the cheap B560 motherboards has power limit in place, to maintain that power limit CPU gets throttled down. The listed Intel motherboard in OP has no such power limit.

 

[madmatt30]

I'm a staunch AMDand ryzen supperter but at those prices the i5 makes way more sense.

The ryzen 3600 is still a great cpu when it's at the right price, just not at the price point you have it listed at.