[SOLVED] Upgrade path advice.

[D-Ziner]

Hey ya'll! I'm well aware of the GPU shortages and absurd prices hikes from scalpers so I'm not holding my breath on upgrading that part, but I am looking for some upgrades I could do that would be more "budget" friendly. Here's my system info. Thank you for the suggestions!


OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version 10.0.19043 Build 19043


System Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
System Model MS-7A34
System Type x64-based PC

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Eight-Core Processor, 3000 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. A.60, 7/27/2017
SMBIOS Version 3.0
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI

BaseBoard Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
BaseBoard Product B350 PC MATE (MS-7A34)
BaseBoard Version 2.0
Platform Role Desktop
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.19041.1566"

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 16.0 GB
Available Physical Memory 7.45 GB
Total Virtual Memory 64.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 43.8 GB
Page File Space 48.0 GB


Name Radeon RX 580 Series
Adapter Type AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x67DF), Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. compatible
Adapter Description Radeon RX 580 Series
Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes

DETAILS FROM AMD APP
GPU - Radeon RX 580 Series - Primary/Discrete
VRAM - 8192 MB - GDDR5 2000 MHz
Graphics Card Manufacturer - Powered by AMD
Graphics Chipset - Radeon RX 580 Series
Device ID - 67DF
Vendor ID - 1002
SubSystem ID - 3417
SubSystem Vendor ID - 1462
Revision ID - E7
Bus Type - PCI Express 3.0
Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16
BIOS Version - 015.050.002.001
BIOS Part Number - MS-V34113-F1
BIOS Date - 2017/04/19 21:01
Usable Memory Size - 8192 MB
Memory Type - GDDR5
Memory Clock - 2000 MHz
Core Clock - 1380 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth - 256 GByte/s
Memory Bit Rate - 8.00 Gbps
OpenGL® API Version - 4.6
OpenCL™ API Version - 2.0

 

[drivinfast247]

What are you trying to achieve by upgrading?

 

[Bob.B]

Hey ya'll! I'm well aware of the GPU shortages and absurd prices hikes from scalpers so I'm not holding my breath on upgrading that part, but I am looking for some upgrades I could do that would be more "budget" friendly. Here's my system info. Thank you for the suggestions!


OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version 10.0.19043 Build 19043


System Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
System Model MS-7A34
System Type x64-based PC

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Eight-Core Processor, 3000 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. A.60, 7/27/2017
SMBIOS Version 3.0
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI

BaseBoard Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
BaseBoard Product B350 PC MATE (MS-7A34)
BaseBoard Version 2.0
Platform Role Desktop
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.19041.1566"

Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 16.0 GB
Available Physical Memory 7.45 GB
Total Virtual Memory 64.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 43.8 GB
Page File Space 48.0 GB


Name Radeon RX 580 Series
Adapter Type AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x67DF), Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. compatible
Adapter Description Radeon RX 580 Series
Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes

DETAILS FROM AMD APP
GPU - Radeon RX 580 Series - Primary/Discrete
VRAM - 8192 MB - GDDR5 2000 MHz
Graphics Card Manufacturer - Powered by AMD
Graphics Chipset - Radeon RX 580 Series
Device ID - 67DF
Vendor ID - 1002
SubSystem ID - 3417
SubSystem Vendor ID - 1462
Revision ID - E7
Bus Type - PCI Express 3.0
Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16
BIOS Version - 015.050.002.001
BIOS Part Number - MS-V34113-F1
BIOS Date - 2017/04/19 21:01
Usable Memory Size - 8192 MB
Memory Type - GDDR5
Memory Clock - 2000 MHz
Core Clock - 1380 MHz
Total Memory Bandwidth - 256 GByte/s
Memory Bit Rate - 8.00 Gbps
OpenGL® API Version - 4.6
OpenCL™ API Version - 2.0

Are you upgrading just for yuks or are you trying to fix something?

Free stuff.
Get the proper bios and mobo drivers.
Don't run unneeded background stuff.

Run this and post a LINK to the results page.
UBM

 

[D-Ziner]

No not trying fix anything. My pc is going on 5 years now and was just looking to see what I could do to get a little performance boost. I use it mostly for video editing and some moderate gaming.

 

[geofelt]

Do you have a budget?

First of all, your list shows 16gb of ram, yet only 8gb is useable.
Try to figure that out.
Run memtest86 or memtest86+
They boot from a usb stick and do not use windows.
You can download them here:

MemTest86 - Official Site of the x86 Memory Testing Tool

MemTest86 is the original self booting memory testing software for x86 and ARM computers. Supporting both BIOS and UEFI, with options to boot from USB.

www.memtest86.com

Memtest86+ | The Open-Source Memory Testing Tool

Memtest86+ is an advanced, free, open-source, stand-alone memory tester for 32- and 64-bit computers (UEFI & BIOS supported)

www.memtest.org

If you can run a full pass with NO errors, your ram should be ok.

Running several more passes will sometimes uncover an issue, but it takes more time.
Probably not worth it unless you really suspect a ram issue.

Is windows C drive on a ssd?
If not, a ssd is one of the best performance upgrades ever.

For gaming, are you cpu limited, or graphics limited?
Try this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

What is the make/model of your psu?
A graphics card upgrade may well depend on the power of the psu.
Here is a handy chart:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

If you need a cpu upgrade, here is what is possible for your motherboard:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-PC-MATE/support#cpu
Games depend much on the single thread performance.

Your R7-1700 has 16 threads and a passmark rating of 14633.
That is when all 16 threads are 100% busy Many threads is useful for multithreaded apps such as editing. The single thread rating is 1986 which is what games need most.

One supported cpu upgrade is the R9-3900XT with 24 threads and a rating of 32868/2786:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+9+3900XT&id=3778
Not a likely upgrade because of the price, but you get the idea.
Check out other upgrades for your motherboard.
If you can upgrade the motherboard, I would opt for Intel 12th gen.
Perhaps something like a $180 I5-12400 with 12 threads and a rating of 20060/3572
You could reuse your DDR4 ram.
A B660 motherboard might be $150.

 

[D-Ziner]

Hey thanks for the suggestions! Well as far a budget is concerned I was mostly just trying to get a price read for literally ANY upgrades I could do with my machine to spuce it up a little. Like I said, my build is getting close to 6 years old now and thought maybe there might've been some price drops is SOMETHING you know. But I guess if there was a cap I don't think I'd want to go over around $250 maaaaaaaybe 300. When I say "budget" upgrade path, boy howdy do I mean BUDGET lol. That Ram thing is for sure something interesting to drill down on though.

Yes my C: is on a SSD.

The higher my resolution on say Apex, from my screens native 4k to 1080 sees a jump in fps from ~50 to peak ~145 respectively so it would seem as though my CPU is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration as you say.

PSU is the EVGA-650 80+ (Gold Certified) whatever that means Semi-Mudular ATX Power Supply

That last suggestion might actually be something to consider. So that would basically mean going from AMD to an Intel architecture right? and going from a 16 thread CPU to a 12 thread, BUT you're saying that the I5-12400 would give me better performance all around to include video editing? I suppose I should say that video editing is primarily what I use my PC for. I shoot wedding films where I sometimes use 4k video so that part is kind of important to me.