Question Upgrading AMD cpu and motherboard tpm question

[Weathered]

Looking to upgrade my dad's desktop to windows 11, currently running windows 10. According to the windows pc health check, the cpu he is running is not on the windows 11 supported list. He is running an AMD ryzen 5 2400g along with Asrock B450m rev 4.0 motherboard. Looks like I have plenty of upgrade options for cpu that is supported for both motherboard and windows 11, was looking at the 5600g.

His motherboard does have tpm, it is already enabled in bios. But how do I know for sure if it is tpm 2.0 or not? Would the tpm option in bios actually say tpm 2.0 if it is tpm 2.0?

 

[Lutfij]

Honestly, I wouldn't drop in a Ryzen 5000 series processor on that board with a lackluster VRM design like that.

Flash the BIOS to the latest version, clear the CMOS, disable TPM in BIOS and then drop in the latter processor. When you power up the system, you should be met with an fTPM change message after POST, yes to reset.

 

[CountMike]

Looking to upgrade my dad's desktop to windows 11, currently running windows 10. According to the windows pc health check, the cpu he is running is not on the windows 11 supported list. He is running an AMD ryzen 5 2400g along with Asrock B450m rev 4.0 motherboard. Looks like I have plenty of upgrade options for cpu that is supported for both motherboard and windows 11, was looking at the 5600g.

His motherboard does have tpm, it is already enabled in bios. But how do I know for sure if it is tpm 2.0 or not? Would the tpm option in bios actually say tpm 2.0 if it is tpm 2.0?

TPM is in the processor, only first gen Ryzen doesn't have it. v2.0 is much older than Ryzen anyway so any Ryzen 2nd gen ad up has it. Despite it's sku as 2000 series, g version is still first gen. 5600g should work fine with appropriate BIOS version even if you have to enable it manually . That requires BIOS in UEFI mode.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Is it this board?

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp

The ryzen 5 2400g is a 65 watt part as well so you should be able to drop in a 5600g. If he’s not gaming and budget is a thing, there used to be a cpu called the ryzen 5 4600g. You can likely find it under 100 dollars, I put one of those into a b450 board with 32gb of ddr4 3200 for my parents a year or so ago to be compatible with windows 11, and with an nvme drive they think it’s very fast. Keep in mind they aren’t gaming, just checking email, working their eBay account, etc. So for a basic pc and even light gaming it’s a fine little cpu.

But I think with bios updates, no issues dropping in a 5600g or similar cpu in the current board and upgrading the ram and calling it a day.

 

[Weathered]

Honestly, I wouldn't drop in a Ryzen 5000 series processor on that board with a lackluster VRM design like that.

Flash the BIOS to the latest version, clear the CMOS, disable TPM in BIOS and then drop in the latter processor. When you power up the system, you should be met with an fTPM change message after POST, yes to reset.

What processor do you suggest? 4000 series?

Do I need to change any other settings besides tpm? Why do I want to disable tpm?

TPM is in the processor, only first gen Ryzen doesn't have it. v2.0 is much older than Ryzen anyway so any Ryzen 2nd gen ad up has it. Despite it's sku as 2000 series, g version is still first gen. 5600g should work fine with appropriate BIOS version even if you have to enable it manually . That requires BIOS in UEFI mode.

What is appropriate bios version? The latest one? Bios is already in UEFI mode.

On Asrock's website in the bios download section, there are 2 versions in beta, 10.31 and 10.12. 10.10 is the next newest one not in beta. Should I just get 10.10 and not worry with the beta versions? Currently running 3.2, which is what came with motherboard when it was bought. When updating bios, guessing it would be good to disconnect any secondary hard drives?

Is it this board?

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp

The ryzen 5 2400g is a 65 watt part as well so you should be able to drop in a 5600g. If he’s not gaming and budget is a thing, there used to be a cpu called the ryzen 5 4600g. You can likely find it under 100 dollars, I put one of those into a b450 board with 32gb of ddr4 3200 for my parents a year or so ago to be compatible with windows 11, and with an nvme drive they think it’s very fast. Keep in mind they aren’t gaming, just checking email, working their eBay account, etc. So for a basic pc and even light gaming it’s a fine little cpu.

But I think with bios updates, no issues dropping in a 5600g or similar cpu in the current board and upgrading the ram and calling it a day.

Yes that is the board. He does not do any gaming at all. Main use is browsing web, checking email, runs a few applications like word and excel, quicken. Does have an nvme drive and 16gb of ddr4 3200 ram. With the 2400g, he is very happy with the speed of it. Only upgrading to be able to run windows 11.

I know windows 10 is supported until october of this year. Any reason to wait to do the cpu upgrade? Maybe prices will come down? Although I don't see that happening.

 

[CountMike]

What processor do you suggest? 4000 series?

Do I need to change any other settings besides tpm? Why do I want to disable tpm?


What is appropriate bios version? The latest one? Bios is already in UEFI mode.

On Asrock's website in the bios download section, there are 2 versions in beta, 10.31 and 10.12. 10.10 is the next newest one not in beta. Should I just get 10.10 and not worry with the beta versions? Currently running 3.2, which is what came with motherboard when it was bought. When updating bios, guessing it would be good to disconnect any secondary hard drives?


Yes that is the board. He does not do any gaming at all. Main use is browsing web, checking email, runs a few applications like word and excel, quicken. Does have an nvme drive and 16gb of ddr4 3200 ram. With the 2400g, he is very happy with the speed of it. Only upgrading to be able to run windows 11.

I know windows 10 is supported until october of this year. Any reason to wait to do the cpu upgrade? Maybe prices will come down? Although I don't see that happening.

5600g draws barely 65w at full load and power so any MB can supply that much. BIOS 10.12 should be fine for it.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

You can find the TPM version, by typing 'security processer details' into the search bar.

TPM for Ryzen 3xxx/5xxx series are fTPM (bios based ).

 

[logainofhades]

The 5600g is pretty efficient, and isn't going to get taxed very hard, with what your father will be doing, so I wouldn't worry about that board's weak vrm.

 

[Weathered]

Having a little trouble with saving the bios file to a thumb drive. I have downloaded version 10.10, that is the newest one without being beta, and extracted it. The directions on asrock's website say to save file on a fat32 formatted disk. I am trying to use rufus to do this but it is not letting me select the bios file. Have to have all files selected to get it show up but when I select it, it says this image is either non-bootable or it uses a boot or compression method that is not supported by rufus. In rufus for boot selection, disk or iso image should be selected correct? I also tried selecting the bios file with boot selection on non bootable and same message comes up. Thumb drive is empty and plenty of space. Have not tried formatting it through windows, just now thought of that as typing this.

Maybe a silly thought but creating a thumb drive doesn't have to be done on computer that is getting the bios update, correct?