Upgrading CPU from i5-3570k

[Steffwiz]

I currently have an ASRock Z77 Extreme4 and a i5-3570k. I tend to quite often keep the CPU at 100% just in basic work. Chrome manages to utilize 100% of the CPU at times. So I need a new CPU. I'm not worried about getting a new motherboard. Just looking for some advice.

I suppose a small incremental upgrade would be the i5-4690k, but that doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. I was looking at the i7-4790k also, which has considerably greater performance, and would help, and I miss hyperthreading from my old i7-920.

Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I play a good amount of games, but the real performance issue is when using Chrome and extreme multitasking.

I also have a GTX 680 and a Hyper 212 Evo.

Thanks for the help.

 

[theyeti87]

Anything currently on the market "isn't much of an upgrade".

 

[13thmonkey]

i'd question why chrome uses 100%, doesn't sound normal to me, and programs will use 100% if they can, but normally in short spikes.

 

[Steffwiz]

Anything currently on the market "isn't much of an upgrade".

It would seem like the i7-4790k would be a considerable upgrade. I'm working with 100% CPU utilization at the moment, with the system hanging, so I need an upgrade regardless of how minimal.

 

[Steffwiz]

i'd question why chrome uses 100%, doesn't sound normal to me, and programs will use 100% if they can, but normally in short spikes.

I work with Flash, and it is quite easy for complex applications to just destroy CPU. This happens across systems, operating system versions, and wipes of the OS, so it's not a localized issue.

 

[utgotye]

If you are not planning on overclocking, go Xeon E3-1231 V3.

That said, it would be a lot cheaper to to simply close some windows and/or Chrome tabs.

 

[Onus]

Remove Chrome and re-install, or switch to a less buggy browser such as Firefox. I believe that both Chrome and Firefox will be discontinuing Flash support in the very near future.

 

[Steffwiz]

Remove Chrome and re-install, or switch to a less buggy browser such as Firefox. I believe that both Chrome and Firefox will be discontinuing Flash support in the very near future.

It's not a localized issue, this is normal performance for complex flash applications. It happens across multiple versions of Windows, across multiple computers, and certainly multiple installations and versions of Chrome.

Edit: It should be noted that the Firefox plugin container does just as poorly.

 

[SirTrollsALot]

i'd question why chrome uses 100%, doesn't sound normal to me, and programs will use 100% if they can, but normally in short spikes.

I work with Flash, and it is quite easy for complex applications to just destroy CPU. This happens across systems, operating system versions, and wipes of the OS, so it's not a localized issue.

I noticed you have virtualization enabled, Are you running other OS in background?

 

[MarkW]

You've got something going on that should not be happening.

That is what task manager should be showing for you if you are browsing the web.

And here are the processes:

If you see constant 100% CPU usage, you need track down what process is doing that, then find out what the process is, and once you know that, you can find out what you need to do to resolve that problem.

 

[SirTrollsALot]

You've got something going on that should not be happening.

That is what task manager should be showing for you if you are browsing the web.

And here are the processes:

If you see constant 100% CPU usage, you need track down what process is doing that, then find out what the process is, and once you know that, you can find out what you need to do to resolve that problem.

pron perhaps? lol

 

[Steffwiz]

You've got something going on that should not be happening.

That is what task manager should be showing for you if you are browsing the web.

And here are the processes:

If you see constant 100% CPU usage, you need track down what process is doing that, then find out what the process is, and once you know that, you can find out what you need to do to resolve that problem.

I believe I've made it clear already. Flash is causing the high utilization. Highlighted is Chrome's plugin container for Flash.

 

[Steffwiz]

i'd question why chrome uses 100%, doesn't sound normal to me, and programs will use 100% if they can, but normally in short spikes.

I work with Flash, and it is quite easy for complex applications to just destroy CPU. This happens across systems, operating system versions, and wipes of the OS, so it's not a localized issue.

I noticed you have virtualization enabled, Are you running other OS in background?

No, I'm not. It's only on because of the use of virtualization in the past. Surely that isn't harming performance in any meaningful way?

 

[k1114]

I don't think going to any quad core i7 is even a worthwhile upgrade for you. Ocing your current setup could help some but I think you might want to go up to x99.

 

[Steffwiz]

You've got something going on that should not be happening.

That is what task manager should be showing for you if you are browsing the web.

And here are the processes:

If you see constant 100% CPU usage, you need track down what process is doing that, then find out what the process is, and once you know that, you can find out what you need to do to resolve that problem.

pron perhaps? lol

Complex flash applications. 😉 Things more complex than video players, lol.

 

[MarkW]

Well, if you simply close the Chrome tab that is using the flash stuff, that should end that.

I just don't go to sites that require Flash anymore. Just like I do not install anything from Adobe anymore. Its not worth the headaches.

 

[Onus]

I'm not sure I have anything else truly useful to suggest. You are experiencing the kind of thing that has essentially killed Flash. Support is non-existent, performance is erratic and/or buggy, and there are no consistent fixes. Other than suffering until HTML5 takes on the bulk of web animation, you might try an add-in that only allows the specific content you allow to run, and blocks other stuff.

 

[Steffwiz]

Well, if you simply close the Chrome tab that is using the flash stuff, that should end that.

I just don't go to sites that require Flash anymore. Just like I do not install anything from Adobe anymore. Its not worth the headaches.

Closing the tab works just fine, I was just looking for advice to make the system more stable while it is running.

 

[babernet_1]

In instructions per clock, Intel jumps about 8% per family.

3000 Ivy Bridge
4000 +8% Haswell
5000 +17% Broadwell
6000 +26% Skylake

So Skylake will be at least 26% faster. Most likely much faster than that because of more powerful instructions and it may be a 10 to 15 percent boost over the Broadwell.

If you really want some CPU power go with the 5820K with six cores and hyperthreading. Or even the 5960K with a full 8 cores and hyperthreading.

 

[MarkW]

If you really want some CPU power go with the 5820K with six cores and hyperthreading. Or even the 5960K with a full 8 cores and hyperthreading.

Oh man... I need to run to the store... Someone get me a Lombardini so that I can get there...

Nothing like severe overkill.

 

[SirTrollsALot]

Chrome is a resource hog try Opera or Firefox

 

[Onus]

The OP says that Flash in Firefox is equally slow. I think a Flash-blocker may help more; prevent most Flash from running except what you specifically allow.

 

[Steffwiz]

If you really want some CPU power go with the 5820K with six cores and hyperthreading. Or even the 5960K with a full 8 cores and hyperthreading.

Oh man... I need to run to the store... Someone get me a Lombardini so that I can get there...

Nothing like severe overkill.

CPUs seem to have severely dropped in price. I remember spending more on my i7-920 than what is being asked for on that i7-5820k. It's all relative I suppose. The i7-5960x is certainly out of my price range though.

 

[Steffwiz]

The OP says that Flash in Firefox is equally slow. I think a Flash-blocker may help more; prevent most Flash from running except what you specifically allow.

Yes, flash is the problem. The primary issue is the applications I work with are the source of the high utilization. Using Firefox helps if only to isolate the high utilization from Chrome. Then Chrome doesn't struggle to open new tabs and such. I wish Adobe would optimize flash a bit or the applications I work with switched to HTML5, but alas, that is out of my control.

 

[MarkW]

I seriously do not think you need to upgrade the CPU. You just need to block the flash stuff. Because if its going to push that CPU to 100%, then it will most likely push any CPU to 100%.

I guess what I am saying is that the problem is not the CPU. And to be honest with you, its not chrome either. I use Chrome constantly. Sometimes with over a dozen tabs open. And my CPU load is minimal.