upgrading i5 6500 to i7 7700k

[Wyatt_9]

looking to upgrade to improve streaming and gaming is it worth it?

 

[chalky16]

If you're serious about streaming the ryzen 1700. But if you want to stay intel the 7700k will be much better for streaming and gaming.

 

[jdcranke07]

looking to upgrade to improve streaming and gaming is it worth it?

For gaming, both are good, but the 7700K is better since you can overclock it if you want to get even more performance out of it.

For streaming and gaming, more cores at a higher speed is better. So, the 7700K will be efficient, but if you really want to stay Intel and stream and game simultaneously, then you seriously need to consider the i7 or i9 extreme chips. This is also based on the resolution of content you are streaming; higher resolution is more demanding. I would look into the Ryzen chips since they're really nice and are very cost effective vs Intel Extreme CPUs.

A good place to have good to great performance for simultaneous gaming and streaming would be an 8 core/16 thread Ryzen or i7/i9 Extreme. Stay away from Xeons since they don't have the core speed and stay away from 4 core i7 and i5 chips since they won't be powerful enough.

If you are okay with gaming and recording a stream and loading the stream up later, then the 7700K or AMD equivalent will be more than fine.

 

[Karadjgne]

Depends on your motherboard and cpu cooler, and just what, if any, expectations you have. If you don't have a Z mobo, then OC is a moot point, but you'll still be moving from 4 threads to 8 threads and from a processor that runs at 3.6GHz to 4.5GHz, as long as you have a decent cpu cooler (the stock i5-6500 cooler won't cut it, and the i7-7700k does not include a stock cooler). So yes, it's going to be a bonus for what you intend, as long as the other parts will support the move too.

Many pre-built pc's will only have certain cpus available in the bios, so if you are looking to upgrade in a pre-built, check to see if the i7-7700k is even supported. Unless there's a model variant that comes factory with that i7, it's usually doubtful it will be supported.

 

[jdcranke07]

Depends on your motherboard and cpu cooler, and just what, if any, expectations you have. If you don't have a Z mobo, then OC is a moot point, but you'll still be moving from 4 threads to 8 threads and from a processor that runs at 3.6GHz to 4.5GHz, as long as you have a decent cpu cooler (the stock i5-6500 cooler won't cut it, and the i7-7700k does not include a stock cooler). So yes, it's going to be a bonus for what you intend, as long as the other parts will support the move too.

Many pre-built pc's will only have certain cpus available in the bios, so if you are looking to upgrade in a pre-built, check to see if the i7-7700k is even supported. Unless there's a model variant that comes factory with that i7, it's usually doubtful it will be supported.

It's already been shown that if you have a 7700K, even overclocked to 5.0Ghz, gaming and streaming simultaneously with content stream @ 1080p resolution is very taxing on the CPU and can lead to major latency between streamer and viewer or gamer and game server regardless of available bandwidth from ISP, all of which is not ideal or good for anyone taking gaming and streaming seriously. And of course, it does go without saying that the appropriate cooling application must be in place before anything can happen without incident.

OP: If you wish to get a CPU and overclock it, make sure you do have an unlocked chip; "K" model CPU (Intel) and I believe Ryzen chips come unlocked. The "Z" chipset motherboards are meant for overclocking on the Intel side. Unfortunately, I haven't looked to see what the AMD equivalent is yet. I do not recommend using a pre-built PC for overclocking unless you have bought it from a manufacturer like Digitalstorm, iBuyPower, or something of the like, where you can customize the parts put into the case. Also, pre-built PCs, from my experience, come with locked down BIOS that will not allow for specific power settings or clock settings to be accessed because they usually do not have components that either support or can physically handle an overclock to any portion of the PC.

 

[Karadjgne]

Jdcrank07,
Op already has a full working pc, that includes an i5-6500. He's thinking of upgrading the cpu to an i7-7700k. My point was/is that his system is unknown, he hasn't listed anything else. You can buy quite a few different models from several different pre-built vendors, and they'll come stock with an i5-6500. What they won't include is a Z mobo. You'll generally be looking at the low-grade mobo's, probably an H110. Because it's a pre-built, it'll also have a castrated bios, the only cpus that'll be supported are the ones inherent to that particular model. If the 7700k wasn't an option, it's unlikely it'll be supported, but a 7700 might.

So, barring any other considerations of scrapping everything and buying a new cpu, mobo to get better streaming results, Op just asked if he upgraded would it be better.

Op. If it's possible to upgrade, then yes, the 7700k will give much better streaming/gaming performance than your current i5, but you will need to buy a cpu cooler, the 7700k does not come with one and the stock i5 cooler is severely inadequate for the torture that streaming/gaming will be under with that cpu.

 

[KirbysHammer]

looking to upgrade to improve streaming and gaming is it worth it?

You can pick up a Ryzen 5 1600 and a motherboard for the same price as a 7700k. OC the 1600 to 3.8 and you're golden.

 

[jdcranke07]

Jdcrank07,
Op already has a full working pc, that includes an i5-6500. He's thinking of upgrading the cpu to an i7-7700k. My point was/is that his system is unknown, he hasn't listed anything else. You can buy quite a few different models from several different pre-built vendors, and they'll come stock with an i5-6500. What they won't include is a Z mobo. You'll generally be looking at the low-grade mobo's, probably an H110. Because it's a pre-built, it'll also have a castrated bios, the only cpus that'll be supported are the ones inherent to that particular model. If the 7700k wasn't an option, it's unlikely it'll be supported, but a 7700 might.

So, barring any other considerations of scrapping everything and buying a new cpu, mobo to get better streaming results, Op just asked if he upgraded would it be better.

Op. If it's possible to upgrade, then yes, the 7700k will give much better streaming/gaming performance than your current i5, but you will need to buy a cpu cooler, the 7700k does not come with one and the stock i5 cooler is severely inadequate for the torture that streaming/gaming will be under with that cpu.

You do realize you are literally arguing with me and then saying the exact same thing I did. This is pointless and I know what the OP wanted. Hence why I have said what I did. The point of these forums is to help the OPs and not try to have some type of dick measuring contest, especially when you are just turning around and repeating what someone else has said.

That being said, I usually give the OP more than they ask for because they usually ask what they can or need to do in order to get the outcome they want after that initial question. It's called good customer service and just being a nice guy. Seems like people just don't understand that nowadays.

 

[jdcranke07]

looking to upgrade to improve streaming and gaming is it worth it?

You can pick up a Ryzen 5 1600 and a motherboard for the same price as a 7700k. OC the 1600 to 3.8 and you're golden.

OP this is actually not bad advice if you were okay with scrapping the motherboard and CPU w/ cooler. However, it would not bring you a ton of performance especially compared to the CPUs I have mentioned before.

 

[KirbysHammer]

Jdcrank07,
Op already has a full working pc, that includes an i5-6500. He's thinking of upgrading the cpu to an i7-7700k. My point was/is that his system is unknown, he hasn't listed anything else. You can buy quite a few different models from several different pre-built vendors, and they'll come stock with an i5-6500. What they won't include is a Z mobo. You'll generally be looking at the low-grade mobo's, probably an H110. Because it's a pre-built, it'll also have a castrated bios, the only cpus that'll be supported are the ones inherent to that particular model. If the 7700k wasn't an option, it's unlikely it'll be supported, but a 7700 might.

So, barring any other considerations of scrapping everything and buying a new cpu, mobo to get better streaming results, Op just asked if he upgraded would it be better.

Op. If it's possible to upgrade, then yes, the 7700k will give much better streaming/gaming performance than your current i5, but you will need to buy a cpu cooler, the 7700k does not come with one and the stock i5 cooler is severely inadequate for the torture that streaming/gaming will be under with that cpu.

You do realize you are literally arguing with me and then saying the exact same thing I did. This is pointless and I know what the OP wanted. Hence why I have said what I did. The point of these forums is to help the OPs and not try to have some type of dick measuring contest, especially when you are just turning around and repeating what someone else has said.

Move on with your day bud. It's not a big deal.