Upgrading PC from 3rd Gen i5

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Hi guys... My 1st Post here.
My current build is like this...

CPU - Intel i5 3750 @ 3.4 GHz
Mobo - Intel DH 77Kc
Ram - A-data DDR-3 1x8GB @ 1600MHz
GPU - Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970
PSU - Corsair VS 650
Casing - Gigabyte Luxo M10 with 6 fans

I seem to be bottle-necking in a few games, using Nvidia's Optimal settings for games, Especially Black Ops 3... FPS drop to <30 sometimes, without V-Sync

My question, do i need to upgrade my Cpu-Mobo-RAM???
If yes, (Hopefully not...LoL) What should i get.
My price range would be about 400$, converted from my local currency...
Thanks for the help in advance :)
 
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Karadjgne
Dual channel ram gets roughly a 10% performance advantage over single channel ram, but that's only really noticeable in apps that have a need for faster ram responses. For the average game, you'd not see much of any difference. If, when tracking ram usage, you find you keep pushing the 8Gb limit, then upgrading to 16Gb dual channel would be an advantage for some resources. Considering you can get decent 16Gb for less than 8Gb 2 years ago, many are going ahead with a 'just in case' attitude which honestly doesn't hurt even if full capacity is never used.
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If you look at exactly what nvidia deems optimal settings, you may notice that instead of straight up 1080p, what is really happening is the scenes are rendered in 2k/4k resolutions then dropped back to 1080p for final showing. Under normal resolutions you'd be up at @60fps in that game but initial rendering at 2k takes an enormous amount of resources and additional time, resulting in fps drops to @30fps. You'll only see this in GeForce Experience, those settings are implemented before game settings, so the game will show 1080p. Setting manual 1920x1080 will result in better fps, if a slightly less than optimal picture quality.

It's not the cpu getting bogged down, but the gpu settings causing a slow down in data transition.
 
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I currently game on an i5-3570K with a 660ti and a i7-3770k with a gtx970. The 660ti doesn't have near the ability of the 970, so games do look somewhat better on the 970, but I do monitor cpu/gpu usage and when the 970 renders MGS:TPP at 2k per GeForce Experience, the 970 goes to 99% usage and the 3770k is at most 54%. Rendering at a standard 1080p set manually in GeForce Experience the gpu sees 67% and cpu 52%. Yes, there are days when it would be nice to be able to drop some cash on a skylake build, but honestly as hard as I push the older Ivy Bridge cpus, there isn't anything to be gained by moving.

Oh, and tea urchin, that was a very eloquent back handed compliment, lol, but I'll take it anyways
 
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I'll do what karadjgne said, and see the difference. Does Fraps slow down games too? Cause it slows down my Firefox by miles... when its running i.e
Thanks for all the help, i'll stay with this rig then.
Should i exchange my A-data 8gb 1600? And get corsair 2x8Gb 1600?
Or, get another A-data? And make it 2x8GB? It's 11.11.11.28
While corsair vengance is 9.9.9.26...
Or should i get a corsair now, and mix the 2?
Is that a lot of difference?
 
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Dual channel ram gets roughly a 10% performance advantage over single channel ram, but that's only really noticeable in apps that have a need for faster ram responses. For the average game, you'd not see much of any difference. If, when tracking ram usage, you find you keep pushing the 8Gb limit, then upgrading to 16Gb dual channel would be an advantage for some resources. Considering you can get decent 16Gb for less than 8Gb 2 years ago, many are going ahead with a 'just in case' attitude which honestly doesn't hurt even if full capacity is never used.
 
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Yea, I agree. i7's really hold their value I'm so happy I went with one.

 
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Thanks for all the help guys, really appreciated.
I'm looking for ddr3 1600MHz rams now. Also gonna get a SSD to speed up things.
WHich RAM would be best for my Dh 77Kc board? I see some people complaining of problems with RAMS on it...
I hate to buy ram, and then find it is causing problems...
 
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http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards/000007083.html#tested

You aren't limited to 1600MHz ram, if the price is right, you could also get 1333MHz ram and more than likely OC it to 1600MHz if it's decent ram. Chances are 1600MHz will be cheaper. Kingston and G-Skill have probably the highest compatability, so either would be a pretty safe bet at 1.5v or 1.35v, upto 8Gb sticks. Don't be tempted by a single 16Gb stick, as it's not supported by the motherboard.

Most of the complaints I found were users of tri/quad channel ram designed for the x79 chipsets, 16Gb single sticks, 1866MHz or faster ram etc. While the cpu is more than capable of using tri/quad channel ram or 1866MHz or faster, the motherboard itself doesn't support such. Basically ppl who just didn't bother to read specs before buying parts and not checking for compatibility.
 
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Thanks a lot bro, really appreciate the help :)
I'll update my results soon, as i get new rams.
Oh, one more thing... Should i look for a 2x8Gb module? Or i can buy 2 8GB sticks?
I'll look for corsair vengeance, or G-skill...

Is it ok if i get this?
G.SKILL Trident X -- 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 MHz
Or something like this?
 
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Yes, dual 8Gb sticks is the best bet, your mobo only supports up to 32Gb, or 4x8Gb. It's always best when buying ram, to buy in a single kit, whether it's 4 sticks of 4Gb or 2 sticks of 8Gb. All the sticks in a kit will come from the same batch of silicon and are thoroughly tested at the factory for compatability. You could take 2 sticks of the exact same brand, size, make and model, but from different batches and have 0 chance of them working together. There's not just the primary timings like 9-9-9-24 that you see, there's also secondary and tertiary timings, over 30 of them and with different batches, inevitably one stick will say go left and the other say go right. Sometimes this is so minor as to not affect the ram whatsoever and the 2 sticks will 'play nice', sometimes it's so major that they are totally incompatible. So best to buy a full kit of whatever size and speed you require.

Yes, the Trident X series of G-skill ram is very good quality, but g-skill is good to begin with.
 
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Thanks Bro, I'll look into buying a 2x8GB module.
Will update how things get from there :)

Corsair Vengeance is good too, Right?
 
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One more thing bro, If i buy 2x8GB module 1600MHz, would it be compatible with Sky-lake, if i upgrade in future?
 
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