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Sorry, Ben that wasnt my point at all: It is the 400 and 433 mhz Celeron
Pavilions which both seem to need chucking away: The Presario, however
feeble, is working to its specification and properly
<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4083bd75.2200139@news.charter.net...
> Yes, take out the modem and hard drive. Take out the floppy while you're
at it.
> You never know. Get rid of the rest. Quickly. The Presario 4508 was not
born
> right... Ben Myers
>
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:50:42 -0400, "Licensed to Quill"
> <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >I woudnt mind trying that but the 4535 seems to take a non-standard size
> >power supply SHAPE which I haven't got and am not prepared to spend real
> >money buying a specailly shaped ATX PS for a Celeron 400.
> >
> >This was why I was wondering which parts of the Presario were standard:
> >Because if I can just put the Pav MoBo in the Pres, it would be a working
> >computer of some modern use with which I could use a reasonable amount of
> >memory
> >
> >I DID manage to get the Pav 4535 to light up the screen but it
continuously
> >loses its BIOS settings annd gives an invalid checksum message on hard
boot
> >(with a standard replacement PS) leading to CANNOT FIND OS whatever I try
to
> >change in the BIOS. As the battery measures just over 3 volts, there may
> >just be something irretrievably dead about the 6475 mobo which is why I
> >wanted to test it in a properly working box. (the only other working box
is
> >a similarly vintaged Dimension 233 with a max of 64 Meg which has an even
> >more nonstandard PS) I should say that when I got it someone had cut
off
> >all the wires to the PS without even unplugging the ATX plug so maybe
they
> >knew more than it was worthwhile my finding out. Isuppose I will take
out
> >the 56K modem and the 6 gig HDD and chuck the rest away
> >
> >It seems I can't do it the other way around and put the Pres PS in the
> >smaller Pav because the Pres PS doesn't seem to be in any way standard
> >
> >I tried asking here abouit the invalid checksum messages on the Pav but
no
> >one had any idea except the obvious 'change battery'
> >
> >
> >
> ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> >news:407f2cab.17803797@news.charter.net...
> >> Better to try to bring a Pavilion back to life. After HP gave up LPX
form
> >> factor motherboards, the Pavilions became pretty standard, tho often
> >> underpowered... Ben Myers
> >>
> >> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:39:30 -0400, "Licensed to Quill"
> >> <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Thank you for your response: The main point seems to be that if the
power
> >> >supply simply can't be used for the Pavilion mobo, then the whole
upgrade
> >> >loses its point: The whole point was that the Pavilion computers are
> >> >junkers on which I was HOPING that at least the mobos were usable
> >> >
> >> >"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:d3st70pae7qlslb20nkle74sp16uk8ilcq@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:42:31 -0400, "Licensed to Quill"
> >> >> <vintagepen@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I have a slightly long in the tooth Presario 4508 which is limited
by
> >> >it's
> >> >> >only being able to handle 64 meg of memory.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Does anyone know if I can upgrade the motherboard using one from a
> >> >similar
> >> >> >looking Pavilion 6475z (or a 4535)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >(No, I am not suggesting that just becasue they look similar that
> >should
> >> >> >make any difference, I just wanted to preserve the proportions in
my
> >> >studio
> >> >> >layout)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Are these unit's motherboards all standard ATX with standard power
> >> >> >supplies?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Licensed to Quill
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know exactly what a Pavilion 6475z looks like, but from what
I
> >> >> remember of the Presario 4500 it was quite proprietary... The
> >motherboard
> >> >> was a non-standard LPX, shoehorned into the case with less than 1/2
"
> >> >> clearance in some areas, with a tiny little Mitac AT power supply
that
> >> >> was worth about 90W, and the memory slots were stategically located
> >> >> because there was very little space to allow even a memory module to
> >stick
> >> >> up at a 90' angle to the board.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's not worth fooling with that system, far better to buy a
standard
> >case
> >> >> with decent power supply. You wouldn't be able to use the Compaq
> >> >> quickrestore CD anyway, once you replace the board (though of course
a
> >> >> restore cd from the "other" system's board should work).
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>