Upgrading, Rate/Advise my build

[jonnybaxy]

Hi guys I'm upgrading soon, Im looking to upgrade my GPU, CPU, MOBO + PSU

Current:
GPU: NVIDIA 740 GT
CPU: AMD A6 6400k
MOBO: Gigabyte F2A88XM-DS2
PSU: Random one that came with case
RAM: 8gb Corsair DDR3 1600

Upgrade:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/KgCpMp

Could you advise me on if this is a good build for 30/40+ FPS in reasonable games (BF4, GTA5, Attilla etc...) Or if you have any better advice please let me know (Looking to spend max ~£600)


Thanks

 

[Justkeeplookin]

-cough- Is AMD worth the extra heat and extra power usage?

 

[logainofhades]

In my opinion it isn't worth the extra $$$ and the AMD FX-8320 can achieve the same speeds as the AMD FX-8350 with minimal overclocking.

And still be slower than an i5.

 

[Justkeeplookin]

Why is Tom's Hardware letting me pick solution like i see those green bars that say "Pick as the solution' but am not the owner of this thread

 

[jonnybaxy]

Right, here is my current basket, can anyone recommend a suitable PSU?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/DMrmK8

 

[logainofhades]

Why do you insist on using a CPU that will bottleneck that GPU? What I listed earlier is the best performance, you are going to get, for your money. Even clocked to 4.5ghz, and FX 6350 falls short of my older 3570k @ its stock 3.4ghz. An i5 4590 will perform quite similarly to my chip @ stock, as haswell is 5-10% faster than Ivy.

 

[Justkeeplookin]

As you can see even from a benchmark an i5 3570k or i5 4690k will crush the FX 6350

 

[jonnybaxy]

Why do you insist on using a CPU that will bottleneck that GPU? What I listed earlier is the best performance, you are going to get, for your money. Even clocked to 4.5ghz, and FX 6350 falls short of my older 3570k @ its stock 3.4ghz. An i5 4590 will perform quite similarly to my chip @ stock, as haswell is 5-10% faster than Ivy.

*snip*

That is an eye opener, can you suggest an aftermarket CPU fan with that part list you sent or will it not need one?

 

[r3v3ng3]

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ptVG6h
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ptVG6h/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£180.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£296.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX XTR 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£69.78 @ More Computers)
Total: £657.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-03 10:38 GMT+0000

 

[logainofhades]

Why do you insist on using a CPU that will bottleneck that GPU? What I listed earlier is the best performance, you are going to get, for your money. Even clocked to 4.5ghz, and FX 6350 falls short of my older 3570k @ its stock 3.4ghz. An i5 4590 will perform quite similarly to my chip @ stock, as haswell is 5-10% faster than Ivy.

*snip*

That is an eye opener, can you suggest an aftermarket CPU fan with that part list you sent or will it not need one?

The stock cooler is sufficient, for a locked i5, such as the one I listed. If you really want better cooling, a coolermaster Hyper TX3 is plenty. A couple years ago, I built a system, with parts solely from Microcenter, for a guy. We ended up going with an marked down, open box, TX3. Due to his budget, it was our only real option. Even clocked at 4.0ghz, it did just fine.

 

[jonnybaxy]

Why do you insist on using a CPU that will bottleneck that GPU? What I listed earlier is the best performance, you are going to get, for your money. Even clocked to 4.5ghz, and FX 6350 falls short of my older 3570k @ its stock 3.4ghz. An i5 4590 will perform quite similarly to my chip @ stock, as haswell is 5-10% faster than Ivy.

*snip*

That is an eye opener, can you suggest an aftermarket CPU fan with that part list you sent or will it not need one?

The stock cooler is sufficient, for a locked i5, such as the one I listed. If you really want better cooling, a coolermaster Hyper TX3 is plenty. A couple years ago, I built a system, with parts solely from Microcenter, for a guy. We ended up going with an marked down, open box, TX3. Due to his budget, it was our only real option. Even clocked at 4.0ghz, it did just fine.

What should I expect to get out of the I5-4590 you selected if I OC it?

 

[logainofhades]

You cannot overclock the 4590. Only the K series chips can be overclocked. Only reason I have a K series was the bundle deal, at microcenter. I don't think the added cost, for overclocking, is really worth it.

 

[jonnybaxy]

You cannot overclock the 4590. Only the K series chips can be overclocked. Only reason I have a K series was the bundle deal, at microcenter. I don't think the added cost, for overclocking, is really worth it.

But for the price of the 4590 I can get an AMD 8370 and OC it, Would the 4590 still beat that?

 

[logainofhades]

Yes it would. Only in highly threaded workloads, would an FX 8370 beat out an i5. By the time you spent the money to overclock it properly, you could get a Xeon 1230 v3, that would beat it in the highly threaded workloads, and gaming.

 

[Justkeeplookin]

And Xeon E3 is like an i7 but can't be overclocked its cheaper than an i7. 3.0Ghz per core i believe

 

[logainofhades]

And Xeon E3 is like an i7 but can't be overclocked its cheaper than an i7. 3.0Ghz per core i believe

It is 3.3ghz actually, but yea an i7 without integrated graphics. Normally I say 1231v3, but the price difference is too great, in the UK, vs US.

 

[jonnybaxy]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£155.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£70.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (£259.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£61.62 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £574.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-26 15:20 GMT+0000

Ordered these parts, came to a bit more as I got all off 1 supplier (SCAN) .

Thanks all for you help 😀

 

[logainofhades]

No problem, enjoy the new rig. 😀