Upgrading to Ryzen

[Darktheleon]

Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: $600-$650 ($750 if I need a new OS licenses)

System Usage: Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: CPU, Mobo, RAM

Do you need to buy OS: Not sure

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon (Prime Member), Newegg (Any other suggestions please let me know)

Location: Delavan, WI 53115

Parts Preferences: AMD CPU, NVIDIA GPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I have all other components in my current build. I am hoping to upgrade GPU in the next six months.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Mobo & CPU getting outdated.


Current system:

AMD FX-8150 AM3+ 8 core processor
3.6 GHz (currently not overclocked)
16GB DDR-3
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 Gaming GDDR5 4GB

Here are the components I am thinking of getting:

ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero AM4 AMD X370 Amazon $253 Newegg $255
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz (3.6 GHz Turbo) w/Wraith Spire Amazon $210 Newegg $215
G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) F4-3200C16D-16GTZR Amazon $169.99 Newegg $155.99
With a Newegg bundle the price is $596 instead of $626. But to get it here this week would be approx $15. Which is half of the bundle savings.

Also is there a case mid or full tower with a foldout or removable mobo tray anyone can recommend?

Hoping to upgrade GPU to GTX 1060 or 1080


Thank you to everyone who responded. I looked into each of your ideas/solutions. At the end of the day I went with my original build. MADMATT30's logic made me feel more assured to go with it, Thanks!

 

[MDXX]

I just upgraded to Ryzen myself last week. I went with the Ryzen 1700, Msi x370 Pro Carbon and the G Skill Trident Z (though i believe right now they might not be able to hit 3200 speed. I can only get mine to 2933 on this mobo at least)

 

[androbourne]

Newegg has some good bundles.

High:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3517680

Medium:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3517678

Low:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3482502

Just to give you some ideas.

 

[Darktheleon]

I just upgraded to Ryzen myself last week. I went with the Ryzen 1700, Msi x370 Pro Carbon and the G Skill Trident Z (though i believe right now they might not be able to hit 3200 speed. I can only get mine to 2933 on this mobo at least)

2 quick questions. Why did you go with the more expensive 1700 when most apps/games still don't take full advantage of multi-threading? Why the MSI board that supports A-series chips which clutters the back with HDMI & DVI?
Just curious not judging.

 

[androbourne]

I just upgraded to Ryzen myself last week. I went with the Ryzen 1700, Msi x370 Pro Carbon and the G Skill Trident Z (though i believe right now they might not be able to hit 3200 speed. I can only get mine to 2933 on this mobo at least)

2 quick questions. Why did you go with the more expensive 1700 when most apps/games still don't take full advantage of multi-threading? Why the MSI board that supports A-series chips which clutters the back with HDMI & DVI?
Just curious not judging.

Just some info.

For starters. Direct X 12 and Vulkan are now using more CPU threads then ever and every single new API after that will be doing the same. It is moving in that direction for sure.

Secondly with that CPU he will be able to game while muti-tasking better. AKA streaming or recording.

 

[Darktheleon]

Double reponse post sorry

 

[Darktheleon]

Newegg has some good bundles.

Low:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3517680

Medium:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3517678

High:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3482502

Just to give you some ideas.

Thanks, I looked over their deals. I love Newegg's combo deals and this time they actually had the exact three items I was thinking of buying.

 

[madmatt30]

Those bundles are way more than you need honestly, they're also not really that cheap.
Stick with the 1600 , its easily the best value & immensely overclockable on the stock cooler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 KILLER SLI/ac ATX AM4 Motherboard ($116.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($186.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $513.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-01 11:47 EDT-0400


Top quality , that ram is the same as the flare x, Samsung b-die.

 

[androbourne]

Not sure I 100% agree with Mad. It is better to prepare for future use instead of just buying "what you need" at the time. You will get longer use of your system that way.

Especially for gaming. Since DX12 and Vulkan. From now on games will start using more and more threads instead of being dependent on single core processing. This means by opting for a 1700 instead, you will be better prepared for the future of gaming.

As well as having the extra cores for muti-tasking if you stream or record and game etc...

For the price difference. I really don't see a reason not to go with a 1700 or higher. Although, getting a 1600 also wont make that big of a difference. Either option will work.

However, that is all up to you. Just my two cents on the subject.

 

[madmatt30]

The 1700 is $120 or so extra because you absolutely need to factor in a replacement cooler to overclock ,because past 3.6ghz its too toasty for the spire.

The 1600 will do 4ghz on the spire with still decent temps.

That's coming from me when I own a 1700 myself too.

Why did I buy one ??
Simply because when the 1600 dropped in the UK it was £219, It was the CPU I'd actually been waiting for over the 1700.
I ordered one , within a day the 1700 went on amazon flash at £259

For £40 I cancelled the order & went with the 1700 because it seemed a good idea.
In retrospect I honestly dont need the 1700 , outside of benching I've not hit more than 50% usage (& that was bf1 multiplayer while background rendering 4k video.

I've built 2x 1600 builds since then & they are honestly still capable of doing the exact same but at 75-80% usage.

For 95% of users the 1600 is still overkill let alone the 1700.

That $100+ saving can go towards the op's GPU upgrade meaning he'll definitely be able to get a 1080 instead of a 1060.

On another note a 970 to a 1060 6gb isn't a big enough upgrade to warrant the purchase imo.
Needs to be at least a 1070 to make it worthwhile.

 

[androbourne]

Again, both will work. However that $120 extra will carry your system that much longer in the future. That is a small price to pay for the extra power.

 

[MDXX]

I just upgraded to Ryzen myself last week. I went with the Ryzen 1700, Msi x370 Pro Carbon and the G Skill Trident Z (though i believe right now they might not be able to hit 3200 speed. I can only get mine to 2933 on this mobo at least)

2 quick questions. Why did you go with the more expensive 1700 when most apps/games still don't take full advantage of multi-threading? Why the MSI board that supports A-series chips which clutters the back with HDMI & DVI?
Just curious not judging.

Cpu - multi tasking, multi monitor, streaming when i move and get better internet. Live encoding

Mobo - I like the looks of it and the rgb rainbow effect

ram - same reason as mobo

 

[madmatt30]

^ dont all the boards support the apu's & have video outs in all fairness ???
Ive not seen one that doesnt.

 

[MDXX]

^ dont all the boards support the apu's & have video outs in all fairness ???
Ive not seen one that doesnt.

What?

 

[madmatt30]

^ dont all the boards support the apu's & have video outs in all fairness ???
Ive not seen one that doesnt.

What?

It was kind of in response to what the op asked earlier

2 quick questions. Why did you go with the more expensive 1700 when most apps/games still don't take full advantage of multi-threading? Why the MSI board that supports A-series chips which clutters the back with HDMI & DVI?
Just curious not judging.

 

[Darktheleon]

No not all AMD mobo's support the A-series AMD Chip. Also not all AMD chips are A-series. Though the AM4 processor socket handles both, the chip architecture is different.

^ dont all the boards support the apu's & have video outs in all fairness ???
Ive not seen one that doesnt.

What?

It was kind of in response to what the op asked earlier

2 quick questions. Why did you go with the more expensive 1700 when most apps/games still don't take full advantage of multi-threading? Why the MSI board that supports A-series chips which clutters the back with HDMI & DVI?
Just curious not judging.

No not all AMD mobo's support the A-series AMD Chip. Also not all AMD chips are A-series. Though the AM4 processor socket handles both, the chip architecture is different.