Upgrapding from AMD Radeon HD7770 to AMD RAdeon R9 390 Series

[graco]

Hi....

I am going to be upgrading from an AMD Radeon HD7770 to one of the AMD RAdeon R9 390 Series.

My main goal is to have more display port outputs for the two to three Dell monitors I currently use.

I do not know a lot about the other details (core clock; amount of memory; etc).

Can anybody advise me as to which card will be best for me (apart from the obvious need for more display ports)??

BTW I use a desktop computer: HP Envy Phoenix h9-1355 and it came with the AMD Radeon HD7770 already loaded. I'm assuming I can replace that with any one of the R9 390 series, but please correct me if that's wrong!

THANKS!!!!

 

[WildCard999]

3 DP and O dBA under 49C.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202148

You may want to check the space you have for a GPU though, this card is massive @13.25" x 8.50"
Reccomended PSU is 750W and yours (I think) is 600W which still should be enough but post your PSU model number so we can make sure its good enough not to damage the card or system. If not then I would go with the EVGA B2 750W PSU.

 

[graco]

Thanks!

Quick question: what's the best way to find out or measure the space I have for the card?

I've never replaced a graphics card (as I have always bought a new fully loaded computer).
I assume the one you recommend is indeed too big.

Also, is it a generally complicated process? Or is it pretty easy to take out the old and attach the new one in place of it?? (I've popped open my computer and have done some work in there, but never a graphics card upgrade)

3 DP and O dBA under 49C.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202148

You may want to check the space you have for a GPU though, this card is massive @13.25" x 8.50"

 

[WildCard999]

Its fairly easy to remove the old card and plug in the new one, then to grab the newest drivers online. I would measure from the PCI-E slot to the side of the case for your width then from the edge of the PCI-E slot (where you use screws to attach the card to the rear of the case) to the front of the case (of HDD cages) to get the length. There might be unused HDD cages in the front that might be able to be taken out to make room.

 

[geofelt]

The R9 390 series will require a 650w psu.
It is unlikely that your pc came with anything much stronger than 300w.
Look at the psu to see how many 6 or 8 pin pcie power connectors it has available.
A R9-390 needs both a 6 and a 8 pin connector.

For 3 dp outputs, the lowest power card I can find is a GTX960. They need only one 6 pin power connector, and that is usually found on a 430w psu.
Here is one example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487153

If your psu has 430w, you could probably use a molex to 6 pin adapter.

 

[graco]

Great.

The desktop tower is 16.22 inches long/deep X 6.89 inches wide
(and about 16.34 inches high)

Its fairly easy to remove the old card and plug in the new one, then to grab the newest drivers online. I would measure from the PCI-E slot to the side of the case for your width then from the edge of the PCI-E slot (where you use screws to attach the card to the rear of the case) to the front of the case (of HDD cages) to get the length. There might be unused HDD cages in the front that might be able to be taken out to make room.

 

[graco]

Thank you.

I will have to check the connectors to make sure I have both 6 and 8 pin connectors.

I do know that the HP Phoenix Envy I am using has a 600W power-supply.

But it also has an 17-3770 processor which I think consumes a lot of power.

Any clue as to which way you would go if you were me?? My main goal is get a card to has more DP outputs (at least 2) and at least one HDMI output. I would spend between 300 - 400 bucks ideally.

My main concern is that it fits into the computer (physcially) and that it will connect and run properly (is 600W sufficient? and I'll have to check the pins/connectors)

Thanks again mate!

The R9 390 series will require a 650w psu.
It is unlikely that your pc came with anything much stronger than 300w.
Look at the psu to see how many 6 or 8 pin pcie power connectors it has available.
A R9-390 needs both a 6 and a 8 pin connector.

For 3 dp outputs, the lowest power card I can find is a GTX960. They need only one 6 pin power connector, and that is usually found on a 430w psu.
Here is one example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487153

If your psu has 430w, you could probably use a molex to 6 pin adapter.

 

[WildCard999]

The GTX 960 will use much less power but wont be nearly powerful as the R9 390. A rough estimate for your system including the R9 390 on high load (no OC) would be around 500W so depending on the quality of your current PSU may determine if you can get the 390 or something else.

 

[WildCard999]

Great.

The desktop tower is 16.22 inches long/deep X 6.89 inches wide
(and about 16.34 inches high)

Its fairly easy to remove the old card and plug in the new one, then to grab the newest drivers online. I would measure from the PCI-E slot to the side of the case for your width then from the edge of the PCI-E slot (where you use screws to attach the card to the rear of the case) to the front of the case (of HDD cages) to get the length. There might be unused HDD cages in the front that might be able to be taken out to make room.

Not wide enough for that Sapphire, Gigabyte has a smaller one that should fit and says it only requires a 600W PSU.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr939wf28gd

 

[graco]

Thanks.

All of the specs on the HP Envy Phoenix is that it offers 600W psu. So it seems like I would be OK to go with a 390, a as long as it can actually connect.

The GTX 960 will use much less power but wont be nearly powerful as the R9 390. A rough estimate for your system including the R9 390 on high load (no OC) would be around 500W so depending on the quality of your current PSU may determine if you can get the 390 or something else.

 

[WildCard999]

Check the connections but also if you can try to find a model # on that PSU and post it, I want to make sure its decent.

 

[graco]

Can you see the specs for my HP Envy Phoenix h9-1355 here:

http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03534739

Hopefully that shows all you need. If not, if you would be so kind, please let me know where to look for the model # on the psu.

Check the connections but also if you can try to find a model # on that PSU and post it, I want to make sure its decent.

 

[graco]

It says this on the specs as well:


Power Supply:

Internal 600 Watt (100V-240V)

Form Factor: internal ATX

Total wattage: 600W

Nominal input voltage range:

100-127V (50-60Hz)

200-240V (50-60Hz)

PCI-E power connector (for high-end video cards): 2

Dimensions: 150mm x 140mm x 86mm (5.9 x 5.5 x 3.4 inches)

* This power supply has an LED to indicate a possible failure condition when LED is off and power is connected.

Check the connections but also if you can try to find a model # on that PSU and post it, I want to make sure its decent.

 

[WildCard999]

^^^Although the info is good its hard to know if its a quality PSU. Its difficult to say if it will be plenty for the CPU & GPU and I cant in good conscience recommend the R9 390 without knowing if it will be enough. So at this point I would go with the GTX 960 4gb or buy a quality PSU like the EVGA B2 750W for around $80 before $30 MIR and get that R9 390.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

If you do find a model # post it and ill try to look it up for you.

 

[madmatt30]

I wouldn't be entertaining a 390 in that HP mate in all honesty.

Its a non standard layout ,from what I've seem a 390 is going to cook itself.

Do yourself a favour grab yourself a short model 970 - it'll fare a lot better & its cheaper
This little GB has 3xdp + 1xhdmi.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn970ixoc4gd

 

[graco]

Fair enough.

Might I ask - as a final question - what you think the difference in performance in real-time would be between the first option (GTX 960 4gb) and the second option (better psu, R9 390, etc)??

Would I notice a difference and what would it be, in your opinion?

BTW: I use my computer for web browsing, word processing, and also for watching movies and live sporting events (often live streaming in high-quality video). I typically use 2 monitors and sometimes one of them is 4K (other times they are both 2560x1440).

^^^Although the info is good its hard to know if its a quality PSU. Its difficult to say if it will be plenty for the CPU & GPU and I cant in good conscience recommend the R9 390 without knowing if it will be enough. So at this point I would go with the GTX 960 4gb or buy a quality PSU like the EVGA B2 750W for around $80 before $30 MIR and get that R9 390.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

If you do find a model # post it and ill try to look it up for you.

 

[graco]

THANKS. I was obviously dumb to be thinking about the 390. I'm officially off of that idea.

I currently have the AMD Radeon HD7770. The main reason I was seeking a better graphics card is to have more DP outlets.

Is this even worth it?? Maybe I should just stick with what I have and use the 1 DP and 1 HDMI outputs and my two U2715H Dell monitors??

I guess the question is: is it an "upgrade" in your opinion to get something like you recommended? It solves my DP outlet desires, but overall, is it worth it??

I wouldn't be entertaining a 390 in that HP mate in all honesty.

Its a non standard layout ,from what I've seem a 390 is going to cook itself.

Do yourself a favour grab yourself a short model 970 - it'll fare a lot better & its cheaper
This little GB has 3xdp + 1xhdmi.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn970ixoc4gd

 

[madmatt30]

You're not gaming at all??

A 970 would be an obscene waste of your money in that case mate.
A 960 is overpowered for what you're doing but it is essentially a power sipping ,ultra low temp,ultra low noise card at the kind of loads you'll be using.

Because I've looked at your internal case layout id 100% recommend a single fan blower & particularly this asus turbo one.

The sealed shroud acts as a wind tunnel - all GPU air is exhausted straight out of the case.
Itll fit your case easily ,ypull have no worries with your PSU ,itll run cool & quiet.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-turbogtx960oc2gd5

 

[graco]

I'm not gaming. The most complex heavy-duty stuff I do is run 2-3 monitors, sometimes at 4K.

The live sports is the most important thing to me, as I essentially use the PC as a Television and watch tons of sporting events on these monitors.

I see the 960 that you recommend. Many thanks for that mate.

Is that indeed an upgrade from the AMD Radeon HD7770 I currently have?

You're not gaming at all??

A 970 would be an obscene waste of your money in that case mate.
A 960 is overpowered for what you're doing but it is essentially a power sipping ,ultra low temp,ultra low noise card at the kind of loads you'll be using.

Because I've looked at your internal case layout id 100% recommend a single fan blower & particularly this asus turbo one.

The sealed shroud acts as a wind tunnel - all GPU air is exhausted straight out of the case.
Itll fit your case easily ,ypull have no worries with your PSU ,itll run cool & quiet.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-turbogtx960oc2gd5

 

[graco]

Actually this might say it all.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7770-vs-GeForce-GTX-960

You're not gaming at all??

A 970 would be an obscene waste of your money in that case mate.
A 960 is overpowered for what you're doing but it is essentially a power sipping ,ultra low temp,ultra low noise card at the kind of loads you'll be using.

Because I've looked at your internal case layout id 100% recommend a single fan blower & particularly this asus turbo one.

The sealed shroud acts as a wind tunnel - all GPU air is exhausted straight out of the case.
Itll fit your case easily ,ypull have no worries with your PSU ,itll run cool & quiet.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-turbogtx960oc2gd5

 

[graco]

Is it better to go with ASUS or GIGABYTE?

 

[WildCard999]

If your not gaming even the 2gb version of the GTX 960 would be fine, between those two I would go with ASUS but for myself I am a fan of EVGA, they make good cards and have 24/7 support within the US (if that matters to you).

GPU Boss/CPU Boss is a joke, don't bother with it.

 

[graco]

Thanks.

I am looking at MSI, ASUS or GIGABYTE. All about the same price around 200 dollars on Amazon. The 2Gb versions.

Any input on the difference between "Windforce" versus "Gaming" versions?

I'm looking at these 3 now and will pick one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SAYDRP8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

This ASUS "Turbo" version (unless others are better)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WJOU6RM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_4&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

And this GIGABYTE (in either Wind-force or Gaming):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SD9KZCI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

If your not gaming even the 2gb version of the GTX 960 would be fine, between those two I would go with ASUS but for myself I am a fan of EVGA, they make good cards and have 24/7 support within the US (if that matters to you).

GPU Boss/CPU Boss is a joke, don't bother with it.

 

[WildCard999]

The ASUS Turbo will be better in a case like that will little airflow, reference blower fan will get heat out of the system much faster.

 

[graco]

Got it.

The ASUS Turbo has now been recommended twice, so I think that's the one I'll go with.

Thanks everybody for the comments and input! So very much appreciated!

The ASUS Turbo will be better in a case like that will little airflow, reference blower fan will get heat out of the system much faster.