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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message news:<rmarkoff-C1C979.09142525042004@news03.east.earthlink.net>...
> > >
> > > So the analogy is someone with no drivers license not getting stopped
> > > until they get to a secret speed over 120 mph.
> >
> > But they can still write you a ticket for doing one over the speed
> > limit, that is no secret.
>
> But that would get thrown out of court if contested, due to inprecision
> of speedometer and radar devices.
>

But it still doesn't make the act of speeding legal.


> > This is pure speculation...
> > You complained about it yourself, your Vision access was too slow,
> > maybe it was because you had several people violating the ToS in your
> > area who are now under investigation. They get knocked off, they
> > clear up that bandwidth.
>
>
> I saw no difference in speed regardless of day of week or time of day.
> Vision has too much overhead, and I've CANCELLED it, So I speculate your
> speculation is all wet.

That's odd because many other subscribers are very happy with the
speeds, even at the average speeds of 50KbpS to 70KbpS.
 
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In article <408BD729.4F969360@spamcop.net>,
Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:

> What's with you and these "secrets?"
>
> Sprint is giving you a break if you don't "drive way over the posted
> speed limit."

If the reason is they want to stop the "abuse" then you enforce the
rule, not once in a whgile, buit all the time.
 
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"Robert M." wrote:
>
> In article <408BD729.4F969360@spamcop.net>,
> Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > What's with you and these "secrets?"
> >
> > Sprint is giving you a break if you don't "drive way over the posted
> > speed limit."
>
> If the reason is they want to stop the "abuse" then you enforce the
> rule, not once in a whgile, buit all the time.

So, every time someone drives 66 in 65mph speed zone, they should
be ticketed?

Larry
 
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In article <408BEB04.207D54AA@spamcop.net>,
Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:

> "Robert M." wrote:
> >
> > In article <408BD729.4F969360@spamcop.net>,
> > Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:
> >
> > > What's with you and these "secrets?"
> > >
> > > Sprint is giving you a break if you don't "drive way over the posted
> > > speed limit."
> >
> > If the reason is they want to stop the "abuse" then you enforce the
> > rule, not once in a whgile, buit all the time.
>
> So, every time someone drives 66 in 65mph speed zone, they should
> be ticketed?

Wrong analogy.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
news:rmarkoff-9D2CBA.12264525042004@news03.east.earthlink.net...

>
> Wrong analogy.

No- right analogy. You're just upset that someone has shown another
instance that shoots down your lame argument.
 
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In article <7e761144.0404251450.53af1b63@posting.google.com>,
pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:

> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:<rmarkoff-C1C979.09142525042004@news03.east.earthlink.net>...
> > > >
> > > > So the analogy is someone with no drivers license not getting stopped
> > > > until they get to a secret speed over 120 mph.
> > >
> > > But they can still write you a ticket for doing one over the speed
> > > limit, that is no secret.
> >
> > But that would get thrown out of court if contested, due to inprecision
> > of speedometer and radar devices.
> >
>
> But it still doesn't make the act of speeding legal.

And the speed limit is not secret.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
news:rmarkoff-BC2FA4.18124125042004@news03.east.earthlink.net...
> In article <7e761144.0404251450.53af1b63@posting.google.com>,
> pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:
>
> > "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:<rmarkoff-C1C979.09142525042004@news03.east.earthlink.net>...
> > > > >
> > > > > So the analogy is someone with no drivers license not getting
stopped
> > > > > until they get to a secret speed over 120 mph.
> > > >
> > > > But they can still write you a ticket for doing one over the speed
> > > > limit, that is no secret.
> > >
> > > But that would get thrown out of court if contested, due to
inprecision
> > > of speedometer and radar devices.
> > >
> >
> > But it still doesn't make the act of speeding legal.
>
> And the speed limit is not secret.

But the threshold for getting pulled over is.
 
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rmarkoff@msn.com (Robert M.) wrote:

<<And the speed limit is not secret. >>

Too bad your medical history is a secret. Then, we'd all know about why
you are so F'ed up!
 
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"Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:<YeGdnYcIY8tc1xHd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>...
> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:rmarkoff-BC2FA4.18124125042004@news03.east.earthlink.net...
> > In article <7e761144.0404251450.53af1b63@posting.google.com>,
> > pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > >
> > > But it still doesn't make the act of speeding legal.
> >
> > And the speed limit is not secret.
>
> But the threshold for getting pulled over is.

Well, you won't see the police announcing "We'll let you do XX over
the speed limie before we do anything". Everyone just assumes it's
somewhere between 0 and 15MpH.
 
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In article <rmarkoff-1FE6FB.05505424042004
@news03.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
>
> Fine, then where on the Web will a user see their data useage??
>
> They won't !!
>
> Sprint doesn't track it.
>

I can't see the speed of an airplane posted anywhere on the outside
of it, either. Does that mean the pilot isn't tracking it?

Hint: just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it can't be seen.

--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
 
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In article <b1c47683d12cbdbfb7f6c48e18821057@news.teranews.com>,
O/Siris <osiris@sprintpcs.com> wrote:

> In article <rmarkoff-1FE6FB.05505424042004
> @news03.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
> >
> > Fine, then where on the Web will a user see their data useage??
> >
> > They won't !!
> >
> > Sprint doesn't track it.
> >
>
> I can't see the speed of an airplane posted anywhere on the outside
> of it, either. Does that mean the pilot isn't tracking it?
>
> Hint: just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it can't be seen.

Fine then why isn't it posted on the web. Users can not track their data
useage like they can their minutes Useage.

Executive Services tells me its not tracked at all.

Hint: Just because you think something is so, doesn't make it so.
 
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rmarkoff@msn.com (Robert M.) wrote:
<<Hint: Just because you think something is so, doesn't make it so. >>

LOL... so odd hearing that coming from you.
 
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In article <7e761144.0404260543.2a5c85d7@posting.google.com>,
pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:

> "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:<YeGdnYcIY8tc1xHd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>...
> > "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:rmarkoff-BC2FA4.18124125042004@news03.east.earthlink.net...
> > > In article <7e761144.0404251450.53af1b63@posting.google.com>,
> > > pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > But it still doesn't make the act of speeding legal.
> > >
> > > And the speed limit is not secret.
> >
> > But the threshold for getting pulled over is.
>
> Well, you won't see the police announcing "We'll let you do XX over
> the speed limie before we do anyth

But that is the wrong analogy. The proper analogy is having a Rocket car
that is illegal to take on the highway, but the police won't pull you
over until you do over (its rumored) 120 mph.
 
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rmarkoff@msn.com (Robert M.) wrote:
<<But that is the wrong analogy. The proper analogy is (snip) >>

Oh really? Who made you the judge? When did you become the moderator
and jury of all USENET?
 
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"Robert M." wrote:
>
> In article <7e761144.0404260543.2a5c85d7@posting.google.com>,
> pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:
>
> > "Scott Stephenson" <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> > news:<YeGdnYcIY8tc1xHd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>...
> > > "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:rmarkoff-BC2FA4.18124125042004@news03.east.earthlink.net...
> > > > In article <7e761144.0404251450.53af1b63@posting.google.com>,
> > > > pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > But it still doesn't make the act of speeding legal.
> > > >
> > > > And the speed limit is not secret.
> > >
> > > But the threshold for getting pulled over is.
> >
> > Well, you won't see the police announcing "We'll let you do XX over
> > the speed limie before we do anyth
>
> But that is the wrong analogy. The proper analogy is having a Rocket car
> that is illegal to take on the highway, but the police won't pull you
> over until you do over (its rumored) 120 mph.

Who the hell are you to determine which analogy is correct?

You accuse others of acting like the "Usenet Police," and then
you do the same thing.

Up your meds, down your meds, but do something.

You've lost it.

Larry
 
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In article <408D3619.C5509AD6@spamcop.net>,
Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:

> Up your meds, down your meds, but do something.

Is that what you're doing? T's and Blue's ?

Tell us again how you know nothing about A500 issues. LIAR.
 
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rmarkoff@msn.com (Robert M.) wrote:
<<Tell us again how you know nothing about A500 issues. LIAR. >>

Hmmm... namecalling and insulting people. Robert M. must be turning
into an apologist.
 
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"Robert M." wrote:
>
> In article <408D3619.C5509AD6@spamcop.net>,
> Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > Up your meds, down your meds, but do something.
>
> Is that what you're doing? T's and Blue's ?
>
> Tell us again how you know nothing about A500 issues. LIAR.

Show me where I said that I "know nothing about A500 issues."

Not suggestions, not inferences, but those exact words.

If you're gonna play that game, so will I.

Larry
 
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Still waiting for an apology rather than childish insults. 5 posts, you
said one.


In article <408D5358.2978574F@spamcop.net>,
Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:

> "Robert M." wrote:
> >
> > In article <408D3619.C5509AD6@spamcop.net>,
> > Lawrence Glasser <lglasser@spamcop.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Up your meds, down your meds, but do something.
> >
> > Is that what you're doing? T's and Blue's ?
> >
> > Tell us again how you know nothing about A500 issues. LIAR.
>
> Show me where I said that I "know nothing about A500 issues."
>
> Not suggestions, not inferences, but those exact words.
>
> If you're gonna play that game, so will I.
>
> Larry
==================================================


> OK, Robert.
>
> Show me, EXACTLY, where the "many posts" are about those "issues."

Here are five.

>
> I posted ONE negative thing about my A500, and that was in reference
> to a very minor problem.

Thank you for self identifying yourself. I didn't name you.

YOU going to give me a proper apology ???"

Or again childishly insult me???
=================

From: Lawrence Glasser (lglasser@spamcop.net)
Subject: Re: Samsung A500 Hands Free Question
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs
Date: 2004-03-18 11:39:40 PST

SB wrote:
>
> When using my hands free device with my Samsung A500, I can't hear the ring
> thru the earpiece, it only rings from the phone. I can hear the keypad
> tones in the earpiece, and the hands free works fine otherwise. Any
> suggestions?

With the exception of taping your phone to your ear, sorry, none.

That's just the way the phone was designed.

Larry

=============================

From: Lawrence Glasser (lglasser@spamcop.net)
Subject: Re: Digit Dialing with Samsung A500 (Displaying Wrong Name when
Dialing)
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs
Date: 2003-08-27 08:23:12 PST

Ben wrote:
>
> > I'm definitely interested in a response from Samsung.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Larry
>
> I just spoke with Jason at Level 2 support for Samsung. He duplicated the
> issue while I was on the phone and indicated he was not aware of it before.
> He took the information and informed me that it would be past on to Level 3
> support. He mentioned that a phone's life cycle is about a year and since
> the A500 has been out for a while, he was not sure how they would handle
> it...maybe another firmware update...not sure.
>
> I asked if they could get back with me when a decision was made and he said
> that is usually not policy, but he verified my contact information and was
> suppose to make that request.

Now *that* was a fast respone... Both Jason's *and* yours!

Because it is considered an old model, I'm not gonna hold
my breath, waiting for an update.

Fortunately, it's more of a "behind the scenes" bug, rather
than an "in your face" one.

Again, thanks for all the info!

Larry

=========================================

From: Lawrence Glasser (lglasser@spamcop.net)
Subject: Re: A500 Calendar View: Complete Thread (2 articles)
Original FormatNewsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs
Date: 2004-03-08 11:55:09 PST

Lawrence Glasser wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm missing something...
>
> If I enter information into my Calendar, online, is there any
> way to get it to my phone, or does it just sit there, waiting
> for me to retrive it, online?
>
> (If this has been asked and answered, sorry for the repeat...
> My news server has a *very* short retention time.)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Larry

No answer? OK, it looks like I'll have to answer my own question. <g>

The answer is "no."

I just spoke to Tech Support. Apparently, the Calendar and my phone,
and the online Calendar, are two different systems.

Too bad... I think it'd be real nice to be able to access my online
Calendar while on the road.

Oh well.

Larry

=====================================

From: Lawrence Glasser (lglasser@spamcop.net)
Subject: Re: problem with Samsung SPH-A500 web browser
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs
Date: 2003-08-13 07:21:46 PST

O/Siris wrote:
>
> Mark Anthony wrote:
> > when i got to log on to the web on my phone it "says sign in as" then
> > its no name. i know my user name should be there but its now. i go to
> > settings then display then greeting and put in user namee but i cant
> > seem to log on. it says error #97. my pw prompt is on never ask alo.
> > if someone could help me i would greatly appriciate it.
> >
>
> Basically, call us. On another cell phone. There's something teensy piece
> of login information already in the phone, and it's not right. Hence, you
> have no username on your phone (which is exactly what Error 97 means: no
> username). Call us. We'll instruct you on how to clean out the partial
> information, and then, when the phone tries to connect after that, it should
> download what it needs to connect.

I had the same problem, late last night.

================================================

From: Lawrence Glasser (lglasser@spamcop.net)
Subject: Re: Quick Rundown of phones...
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.sprintpcs
Date: 2003-08-14 01:16:37 PST

SprintPCS Tech wrote:
>
> This is by what should be available in most stores over the next month.
> Current handsets only:
>
> <snip>
>
> Samsung A500 - get past the bugs from the recent software update - good
> phone. Fair battery life.

What bugs? Bugs in WD29 or earlier?

Thanks!

Larry
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
news:rmarkoff-9A2A86.07031626042004@news05.east.earthlink.net...
> In article <b1c47683d12cbdbfb7f6c48e18821057@news.teranews.com>,
> O/Siris <osiris@sprintpcs.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <rmarkoff-1FE6FB.05505424042004
> > @news03.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
> > >
> > > Fine, then where on the Web will a user see their data useage??
> > >
> > > They won't !!
> > >
> > > Sprint doesn't track it.
> > >
> >
> > I can't see the speed of an airplane posted anywhere on the outside
> > of it, either. Does that mean the pilot isn't tracking it?
> >
> > Hint: just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it can't be seen.
>
> Fine then why isn't it posted on the web. Users can not track their data
> useage like they can their minutes Useage.

Remember the article I posted about Comcast? Their users can't track it,
either.

>
> Executive Services tells me its not tracked at all.

And Executive Services is nothing more than an escalation group for CS.
Spin it any way you want- they don't know everything.

>
> Hint: Just because you think something is so, doesn't make it so.

Not true- I think you're a moron, and you prove it every day.
 
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"O/Siris" <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message news:b1c47683d12cbdbfb7f6c48e18821057@news.teranews.com...
>In article <rmarkoff-1FE6FB.05505424042004
@news03.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
>>
>> Fine, then where on the Web will a user see their data useage??
>>
>> They won't !!
>>
>> Sprint doesn't track it.

> I can't see the speed of an airplane posted anywhere on the outside
> of it, either. Does that mean the pilot isn't tracking it?

The airline doesn't bill me according to speed, so I have no need
to see it. Sprint bills me for Vision by the kilobyte, so I have a
legitimate fiduciary need to track Vision usage.

--

John Richards
 
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In article <rmarkoff-9A2A86.07031626042004
@news05.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
>
> Fine then why isn't it posted on the web. Users can not track their data
> useage like they can their minutes Useage.
>

Now you're back in legitimate territory. Getting it to work on the
web site has been problematic. All I know about the details is that
we're working on getting that running.

Executive Services, if they told you that, was wrong. That it isn't
tracked.

--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
 
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In article <3Xdjc.41350$9Z4.6827@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>,
supportdesk70-NO-SPAM@NO.SPAM.sbcglobal.net says...
> The airline doesn't bill me according to speed, so I have no need
> to see it.
>

They do (roughly) by distance. They don't tell you how far you fly,
although you have indirect means to determine it. There are indirect
methods for this, too.

--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
 
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In article <rmarkoff-F44AF4.05493025042004
@news03.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
> Nobody's arguing that. What has been said, (and you ignore) is that
> by having that policy and then only very selectively enforcing it, you
> encourage abuse.
>

I haven't ignored it. I addressed it. Anybody thinking it's
selective enforcement is wrong. Just as police will let drug users
go if it helps them find the dealers, SPCS has set a priority and has
acted accordingly. There's nothing saying they won't shift it
downwards from whatever level they choose today. They have that
right, and you have no right to know how far up that priority level
is, because ALL of it if against the T&C's.

--
RØß
O/Siris
I work for Sprint PCS
I *don't* speak for them
 
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"O/Siris" <0siris@sprîntpcs.com> wrote in message news:a0e59a86bc72c1271f4cec57fc52e544@news.teranews.com...
In article <3Xdjc.41350$9Z4.6827@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com>,
supportdesk70-NO-SPAM@NO.SPAM.sbcglobal.net says...
>> The airline doesn't bill me according to speed, so I have no need
>> to see it.
>
> They do (roughly) by distance. They don't tell you how far you fly,
> although you have indirect means to determine it. There are indirect
> methods for this, too.

That's a pretty far stretch, and not really worthy of you.
You also conveniently failed to address the second part:

> Sprint bills me for Vision by the kilobyte, so I have a
> legitimate fiduciary need to track Vision usage.


--

John Richards
 
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