News UserBenchmark bashes AMD GPUs and claims they lack real-world performance

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UserBenchmark claims that AMD's Radeon GPUs fail to deliver real-world performance and are backed by an army of influencers it blames for duping customers.

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[Pierce2623]

The “army of influencers” he’s talking about is literally just the current discourse on Nividia pricing lol. Unfortunately Google will continue to show UserBenchmark first as long as they continue to pay up.

 

[baranlai]

Looks like Nvidia paid advertisement.

 

[-Fran-]

There has to be a way to ask Google to blacklist them from tech-related search results. Or, at least, add some sort of warning about their very obvious biases.

This site, while a great idea on paper, the clown running the show makes it terrible for anyone looking for decent data and unbiased analysis.

Regards.

 

[GenericUser2001]

Userbenchmarks has some just deranged anti-AMD bias going on. Go read their reviews of the Ryzen 7800x3d or 9800x3d; apparently you need to "watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube," lol. Seriously though, I have heard rumors that the site owner lost a bunch of money shorting AMD right around when the first Ryzen chips came out, which may explain things. Just rumors mind you, take that with a grain of salt.

 

[JayGau]

I'm more and more convinced that the guy behind this site used to work for AMD and they fired him or something like that. All this irrational hate for a company has to have been triggered by something, cannot be just an Intel/Nvidia fanboy.

 

[baboma]

>All this irrational hate for a company has to have been triggered by something, cannot be just an Intel/Nvidia fanboy.

Ragebait is not irrational, but a rational response to monetize irrational rage.

 

[vanadiel007]

AMD should use a small percentage of their profits and sue that site for slander and put them out of business. It's one thing to not like a Company and it's products, it's a different thing to continually make falls and misleading statements about a Company and it's product(s).

 

[-Fran-]

AMD should use a small percentage of their profits and sue that site for slander and put them out of business. It's one thing to not like a Company and it's products, it's a different thing to continually make falls and misleading statements about a Company and it's product(s).

I wonder if the Streisand effect would matter in that scenario? 🤔 It may be a good idea to point more eyes to the vile in the site, so people understands their information is not reliable.

Otherwise, waste of time and money for the courts and AMD, I'd say.

Regards.

 

[ThatMouse]

I didn't even know UserBenchmark had articles. I thought it was mainly a way to compare your specs with other people, but now I'm wondering how accurate those stats are. For all we know those numbers could be tampered with.

I tried to figure out who "they" are, who wrote the what I'd call an oped article, but there's no information other than they seem to think GPU reviewers are paid, and I don't think they are. Some of the smaller reviewers do get free cards is about all I can see, but those are not the ones we're talking about.

 

[JamesJones44]

There has to be a way to ask Google to blacklist them from tech-related search results. Or, at least, add some sort of warning about their very obvious biases.

Label as potentially bias, but I'm never a fan of removing content, de-ranking, etc. purely based on disagreement of opinion.

 

[Makaveli]

lol there is a reason userbenchmarks is banned in the intel sub reddit.

 

[rluker5]

That guy writing those comments is like the owner of a bar who is always trash talking your favorite team.
The only thing that is important is the numbers.
My B580 scores pretty low compared to Nvidia as well so not an ideal comparison arch to arch. But Nvidia does have DLSS in about 10x as many games as AMD has FSR4 and that is real world performance that is not shown in reviews. 20% is probably more accurate a deficit than the pretending upscaling capabilities are equal reviews.

 

[Lorien Silmaril]

Do people even use UserPissmark?

 

[George³]

Baduser paymark? /s

 

[punkncat]

AMD should use a small percentage of their profits and sue that site for slander and put them out of business. It's one thing to not like a Company and it's products, it's a different thing to continually make falls and misleading statements about a Company and it's product(s).

I would be willing to bet that some consideration for this has already been reviewed. A company that size certainly keeps an eye out for things such as that. It is worth consideration they think "any press is good press" and being rational probably consider that everyone else but those who wouldn't be convinced anyway can smell that smell.

 

[Tax Payer]

The consistent discrepancies between real-world, reputable benchmarks for AMD CPUs and GPUs, and what gets reported on UserBenchmark, has fascinated me for years.

Beyond their heavily biased descriptions of AMD products, I can prove that it's deliberately manipulated and perhaps other keen eyes noticed it too. I was there the hours/early days of the 9070/XT launch and early results, though varying based on system configs, GPU manufacturer, etc, definitely had the 9070XT in the realm of the 5070ti.

That is, until the results were all removed from UserBenchmark completely - leaving just one extremely anecdotal "benchmark" of each GPU for others to compare, deliberately misleading the public and no doubt affecting opinions and sales. I could hypothesize the kept result for each GPU was among the lower of the benchmarks, but I didn't keep any receipts - maybe next time.

The best we can do is keep spreading the word about the AMD-directed abuse the website spews. Some sort of AMD-lead litigation would be tremendous as proof of deliberately misleading statements should be available and deemed damaging to the brand, given the high level of promotion the site receives overall.

 

[ianpac1969]

His statement that there is no advantage in buying a 3D CPU if it is married to an average GPU is correct. The GPU will be the bottleneck. You need a top of the line GPU for the 3D CPU to shine. The majority of users do not own a fast GPU although that will increase over time as people upgrade. It is also true that AMD drivers are usually not as good as Nvidia's.

He may have an anti AMD bent but his points are not without some merit. Simply denouncing him as crazy just lowers the conversation.

 

[punkncat]

Do people even use UserPissmark?

There are aspects of the tool itself that I like, and in particular for places like here where uninformed PC owners are trying to figure out issues that the information provided was often things they didn't know to provide or even how, properly. Absolutely worthless as a real benchmark tool outside comparative performance from Intel CPU, IMO.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Please. Like userbenchmark is even relevant. Yes I suppose you can say it’s useful to compare people’s systems. But to say oh amd gpus crash and have driver issues. Really? I recall seeing stuff about 50 series gpus having black screens, and lest we forget connectors catching fire.

If we’re going to bash a company, be fair about it and mention the issues other companies are having. For AMD’s part, at least you’ve had a better chance to get a gpu.

 

[YSCCC]

I wonder how much Nvidia shares did they bought, or did they at the same time putted the AMD stock heavily to try to gain back some money hoping that AMD flops as usual..

 

[cyrusfox]

There are aspects of the tool itself that I like, and in particular for places like here where uninformed PC owners are trying to figure out issues that the information provided was often things they didn't know to provide or even how, properly. Absolutely worthless as a real benchmark tool outside comparative performance from Intel CPU, IMO.

Not entirely true, his benchmark of storage drives is top tier, It is a great aggregator of obscure performance figures and has helped me make many of ebay purchase decisions when doing upgrades on the cheap for others.

For GPU and CPU, I would venture if you compare only across same company (Intel vs Intel, Nvidia vs Nvidia, or AMD vs AMD). I would trust those conclusions wholeheartedly, but I do believe their is some brand vs brand bias inherent at userbenchmark.

I personally think it is rooted in some sort of deep bias. I can relate, after I spent a lot on an HP laptop, and replaced the MOBO 3+ times, I have strong feelings about purchasing or using HP laptops that I now know are actually unfounded (the real issue was using the wrong DRAM, and the mobo were actually fine, would work at first then stop working).

 

[russell_john]

He sounds like a jilted boyfriend ...... sheesh

I've known for years that site was worthless and misleading but I never knew the site owner was a couple cards short of a full deck ..... until now

 

[helper800]

His statement that there is no advantage in buying a 3D CPU if it is married to an average GPU is correct. The GPU will be the bottleneck. You need a top of the line GPU for the 3D CPU to shine. The majority of users do not own a fast GPU although that will increase over time as people upgrade. It is also true that AMD drivers are usually not as good as Nvidia's.

He may have an anti AMD bent but his points are not without some merit. Simply denouncing him as crazy just lowers the conversation.

There definitely is a massive benefit to having a more powerful CPU with middling graphics cards and that is shown in the 1% fps lows, and there are plenty of games that massively benefit from the extra cache such that if you don't have it the game is nearly unplayable in certain circumstances (Beyond all reason). Now, if you had 700 dollars for a CPU and a GPU, on average, you would be better off with a 200$ CPU and 500$ GPU which would exclude all X3D CPUs from consideration. AMD drivers have been par with Nvidia for nearly 10 years now. I still have many super annoying driver issues with Nvidia as we speak. CPU pro and GPU pro are extremely biased and consistently lie about AMD performance on both fronts, I would not call that a "bend."

 

[phxrider]

It's like TDS, except for tech.

AMD GPUs were garbage some years back, I tried out a R9290X and what a piece of junk that was. Went back to Nvidia real quick.

Fast-forward to 2021, I grabbed a 6800XT during the crypto craze because it was available, and I knew it would pay for itself even at scalper prices. Never looked back since, it was a great gaming GPU and since then I've owned another 6800XT, 2x 7900XTXs and 2x 7900XTs, and been very happy with every one of them. And you don't want to get me started on how many AMD CPUs, normal and gaming laptops, and Minis I've owned. Every single one has been excellent.