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When was the last time an nVidia gaming GPU launch was this bad? 4090 connector melting sucked but at least the cards could get replaced and quickly appeared to affect a small portion of users, especially if one went back and really shoved the connector in tight. 4080 12 GB getting nixed was mainly just good for a chuckle.

Anybody still believe "we still love gamers" is genuine? AIB's getting shafted reminds me of a once great legend, EVGA.

BTW, the tariff theory is kind of meh because a premature launch is a premature launch at the end of the day; what would you pick, immature drivers, insufficient testing and validation, and a lack of product supply causing crazy street prices and unavailability, or a proper launch with tariffs tacked on but all else done right?
 
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helper800 said:
They love your money, and you love their product, else you would not be paying for it. "You," in this instance, being a metaphorical you, not you specifically, of course
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Love is probably an exaggeration on the consumer side. I don't love the toilet paper I buy, but I still buy it anyway. Buying a GPU today is like voting in a US election. Almost nobody likes any of the options, so you pick the one least offensive to you.
 
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spongiemaster said:
Love is probably an exaggeration on the consumer side. I don't love the toilet paper I buy, but I still buy it anyway. Buying a GPU today is like voting in a US election. Almost nobody likes any of the options, so you pick the one least offensive to you.
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Also like in election you can choose to abstain - at least if your previous GPU is still alive.
 
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spongiemaster said:
Love is probably an exaggeration on the consumer side. I don't love the toilet paper I buy, but I still buy it anyway. Buying a GPU today is like voting in a US election. Almost nobody likes any of the options, so you pick the one least offensive to you.
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You are not forced to vote or buy a GPU or toilet paper. Consider looking into a bidet as a better alternative. Things are only ever worth what amount of money you are willing to part with to get. Love is not the correct term, for sure, I was just keeping the trend of your use of verbiage. In reality Nvidia does not "love" your money either. The sterile and more accurate turn of phrase is; They want your money, and you want their product, else you would not be paying for it.
 
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helper800 said:
Looming tariffs could have you paying 3k-5k for a 5090 if you cannot get it early. I would rather have the hardware early in this instance and hope drivers are sorted soon.
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Can you ever get a 5090 outside of scalper prices?
These 5k seem the usual from scalpers.



Also My guess is almost all of these users have PCIE extension bridges on their cases?

I mean, the Founders Models 5090 already have a ribbon for the PCIE connector from the skewed center PCB to the PCIE interface. Right?
 
helper800 said:
Looming tariffs could have you paying 3k-5k for a 5090 if you cannot get it early. I would rather have the hardware early in this instance and hope drivers are sorted soon.
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You'd rather pay less and hope that the software AND hardware isn't faulted? As far as we know today, there could be hardware-level problems as well if PCIe 5.0 is struggling. And who is getting 5090's at MSRP? There is no guarantee on 5090 pricing, and with availability being a problem for as much as 16 weeks, tariffs aren't your problem my friend.

Tariffs are a living policy -- nothing was ever set in stone, as is apparent as now both Mexico and Canada have them delayed for 30 days. China is also set to have formal talks with the U.S. on this soon.

Sorry but Dementoss is right: there's always a risk as an early adapter. Some decide it's worth taking, which is fine -- just realize it's there. Same for the 9070 (XT) at launch, though AMD obviously isn't in a hurry at all to rush it out the door, thankfully.
 
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You'd rather pay less and hope that the software AND hardware isn't faulted? As far as we know today, there could be hardware-level problems as well if PCIe 5.0 is struggling. And who is getting 5090's at MSRP? There is no guarantee on 5090 pricing, and with availability being a problem for as much as 16 weeks, tariffs aren't your problem my friend.

Tariffs are a living policy -- nothing was ever set in stone, as is apparent as now both Mexico and Canada have them delayed for 30 days. China is also set to have formal talks with the U.S. on this soon.

Sorry but Dementoss is right: there's always a risk as an early adapter. Some decide it's worth taking, which is fine -- just realize it's there. Same for the 9070 (XT) at launch, though AMD obviously isn't in a hurry at all to rush it out the door, thankfully.
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I respectfully disagree. I have already passed on one opportunity to get an MSRP 5090 because I have already deemed it not worth it for me, so to say that they are completely unavailable to everyone is fallacious. Every original purchase of these cards is at MSRP. To suggest that 100% of the cards are in scalpers hands for resale is nonsense. I would rather pay 2k for a card than the same card for 3k with the addition of tariffs. Your post hoc rationalization of not having to worry about tariffs is illogical. Nobody knew that the tariffs were going to be delayed in the moment and that certainly factors into purchasing decisions. Do I wait for problems to be cleared up and have to pay a huge additional tax, or do I buy now assuming warranties will be honored and the drivers will be fixed? There are almost zero risks to early adopters with my definition of "risk" when dealing with tech hardware. Warranties, and return periods legally have to be honored, and driver issues will be fixed. I don't need a crystal ball to know this...
 
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DS426 said:
When was the last time an nVidia gaming GPU launch was this bad? 4090 connector melting sucked but at least the cards could get replaced and quickly appeared to affect a small portion of users, especially if one went back and really shoved the connector in tight. 4080 12 GB getting nixed was mainly just good for a chuckle.

Anybody still believe "we still love gamers" is genuine? AIB's getting shafted reminds me of a once great legend, EVGA.

BTW, the tariff theory is kind of meh because a premature launch is a premature launch at the end of the day; what would you pick, immature drivers, insufficient testing and validation, and a lack of product supply causing crazy street prices and unavailability, or a proper launch with tariffs tacked on but all else done right?
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Can I choose none of the above, because that is what I chose, and I still got screwed. (stayed with my 4090 and the new drivers are causing all kinds of problems - at least I have the option of rolling back).
 
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I didn't say 100% of cards are in scalpers hands -- I just asked a rhetorical question. Plenty of us agree that nVidia MSRP doesn't often equal street prices. Those that got launch pricing straight from a retailer, good deal!
 
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Can I choose none of the above, because that is what I chose, and I still got screwed. (stayed with my 4090 and the new drivers are causing all kinds of problems - at least I have the option of rolling back).
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Oof! 🙁 Sorry to hear that. Yeah, might as well rollback from the sounds of it.
Icing on the cake though, isn't it. Green spared no one, lol.
 
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Most probably The root cause for a lot of these problems is user error. That is generally been the case and if it's software that's easily updatable. I bought two of the 5090s but I probably won't install them until after April when I get back to the other house.
 
Dementoss said:
The obvious point to make here is, don't buy the latest hardware immediately it's released, wait until any teething troubles have been dealt with.
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The hardware most likely won't change much so it doesn't matter when you buy it The software is what will change. It's fine to buy early and wait until the software qwerks it worked out to plug it in and run it.
 
helper800 said:
My understanding is that the tariffs would include Taiwan, though I could be wrong. In any case, Nvidia's cards from their own FE to the AiB partner cards will be tariffed because they are all manufactured in China. I could be wrong though, feel free to correct me.
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If they were manufactured in China how could the US prevent China from importing them?
 
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If they were manufactured in China how could the US prevent China from importing them?
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I believe for the purposes of Tariffs Taiwan can be considered part of China though its not yet clear to me if this is the case. Trump specifically named foreign chip production tariffs as well. There is a reason Nvidia's CEO is either meeting with or has already met with Trump. Please correct me if I am wrong as I am very interested in knowing exactly what is going on.
 
Well, with the 3080 launch they had issues on the reference model cards (just to remind everyone: FE cards are NOT reference designs) where they had to lower the boost clocks because the power subsystem on some of them wasn't up to snuff.

This happens from time to time with all vendors, but ironically, if memory serves me correctly, it has happened more to nVidia than AMD or Intel? Vega was very fickle with power at launch and the RX480 had the PCIe power shenanigans.

Regards.
 
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