Using 2010 PSU in a new PC

[VunkJr]

I want to build a PC with i5-7500 and GTX 1060. I would use a SEASONIC S12II-520 as the psu but is it still reliable? I googled it and some reviews about it are from 2010. When I buy it it's brand new but is it still okay to use it in a new build as it was designed/made 7 years ago? Thanks

 

[CropEditPaste]

It depends on how much power your system is drawing. 520w is good enough for any decent gaming computer today, and I run my setup off of a really old 400w. You may want to check the power draw of the system and add in any upgrades you may consider in the future to future proof your decision.

 

[weberdarren97]

Seasonic S12ii and M12ii series are great! They're an older design but were ahead of their time and still compete well with modern high-efficiency designs.

Note that Seasonic is the OEM for many of the better units from Cooler Master, Corsair, EVGA, etc. It goes without saying that Seasonic has earned my respect.

 

[weberdarren97]

It depends on how much power your system is drawing. 520w is good enough for any decent gaming computer today, and I run my setup off of a really old 400w. You may want to check the power draw of the system and add in any upgrades you may consider in the future to future proof your decision.

Thanks to the efficiency of modern hardware, you could probably do 1070 (FE) SLI and low wattage CPU overclocking on a good 520w unit like this. The PSU probably wouldn't be too happy about it and would get rather loud, but it would probably do it.

 

[Sakkura]

The capacitors and the fan may be a little worn but it should still have a good amount of life left. The S12II platform is a workhorse; the fact that it's still being made AND frequently recommended to this day says a lot.

 

[weberdarren97]

The capacitors and the fan may be a little worn but it should still have a good amount of life left. The S12II platform is a workhorse; the fact that it's still being made AND frequently recommended to this day says a lot.

I think one of us must have misunderstood the post (not sure which). I read it as he was looking to buy a new one but wanted confirmation on the quality of the older design.

I hope he's not buying a used one because the new ones are so affordable.

 

[Sakkura]

The capacitors and the fan may be a little worn but it should still have a good amount of life left. The S12II platform is a workhorse; the fact that it's still being made AND frequently recommended to this day says a lot.

I think one of us must have misunderstood the post (not sure which). I read it as he was looking to buy a new one but wanted confirmation on the quality of the older design.

I hope he's not buying a used one because the new ones are so affordable.

My bad, I misread.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

TheS12 520 id built on Seasonic's GB Bronze platform same as the venerable Antec High Current Gamer (M) 400-620 and XFX Core 450-550 / XFX TS 550 Bronze. It remains a solid and reliable PSU and can be had for as slow as $40. The M12 is the same design but w/ modular cables. Simply put, you can not find a better PSU in it's price range. We use them all the time on budget conscious builds.

According to nVidia, you have plent of juice for a 1060 builds ...

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/

Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) = 94
Graphics Card Power (W) = 120 watts
400 W400 WRecommended System Power (W) = 400 watts
Supplementary Power Connectors = 6 pin

I wouldn't do twin 1070s (750 min) tho ...

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,8.html

 

[weberdarren97]

TheS12 520 id built on Seasonic's GB Bronze platform same as the venerable Antec High Current Gamer (M) 400-620 and XFX Core 450-550 / XFX TS 550 Bronze. It remains a solid and reliable PSU and can be had for as slow as $40. The M12 is the same design but w/ modular cables. Simply put, you can not find a better PSU in it's price range. We use them all the time on budget conscious builds.

According to nVidia, you have plent of juice for a 1060 builds ...

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/

Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) = 94
Graphics Card Power (W) = 120 watts
400 W400 WRecommended System Power (W) = 400 watts
Supplementary Power Connectors = 6 pin

Well said sir.

I wouldn't do twin 1070s (750 min) tho ...

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,8.html

I only meant it as a theory to show the robust nature of the power supply. Of course I'd get a bigger unit to do this myself because I don't want to strain it.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I agree that PSU is the A10 Warthog of PSUs

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I would suggest going with all new parts for your build and keep the sea sonic as a "known good" spare. Your spending a lot of money on this build, so it wouldn't hurt to spend a little bit more, ensuring all of your parts are new and under warranty.

H doesn't "have" a Seasonic to keep. The OP was apparently looking for a new PSU to buy and while the S12 was very highly reviewed ... he noted that the reviews were old and expressed concern about using an "older design" that was still being made and sold today.

I googled it and some reviews about it are from 2010. When I buy it it's brand new

The S12 has been in continuous production since that time the unit he intends to buy would be 'brand new' and come with a new warranty.

 

[SgtScream]

I would suggest going with all new parts for your build and keep the sea sonic as a "known good" spare. Your spending a lot of money on this build, so it wouldn't hurt to spend a little bit more, ensuring all of your parts are new and under warranty.

H doesn't "have" a Seasonic to keep. The OP was apparently looking for a new PSU to buy and while the S12 was very highly reviewed ... he noted that the reviews were old and expressed concern about using an "older design" that was still being made and sold today.

I googled it and some reviews about it are from 2010. When I buy it it's brand new

The S12 has been in continuous production since that time the unit he intends to buy would be 'brand new' and come with a new warranty.

I tried deleting that post, misread OP!

 

[Zerk2012]

I want to build a PC with i5-7500 and GTX 1060. I would use a SEASONIC S12II-520 as the psu but is it still reliable? I googled it and some reviews about it are from 2010. When I buy it it's brand new but is it still okay to use it in a new build as it was designed/made 7 years ago? Thanks

That is a good power supply but make sure your buying one of the new 2xx boards with that processor and not a H110, b150 h170, z170

 

[SgtScream]

It doesn't mention anything about being haswell certified or anything to that affect. Do you think this will affect power/sleep states and being able to wake his computer up from sleep mode?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I have never paid any attention to "Haswell Certified".... IIRC, the older discontinued S12 520's with the 6 + 8 pin cables was not but the new one with the (2) 8 pin cables is. Again, this is my *vague* recollection on certification but not too sure

S12 620 w/ 6 + 8 pin and (2) 17 amp 12v rails - No
S12 620 w/ 6 + 8 pin and (2) 20 amp 12v rails - No
S12 620 w/ 8 + 8 pin and (1) 40 amp 12v rails - Yes

I have done many builds w/ the older models and had no sleep issues.

 

[Zerk2012]

The 12 volt rails are not true they have a single rail design even though it said that.
From the 2010 model.
To which I reply: calm down, people. Neither the manual nor the cabling made any indication of what went to what rail, so I popped the cover off. This unit does not have two 12V rails at all - it's a single 12V design
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=185

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

The PSU isn't compatible with the CPU sleep states , it's decent , but an outdated platform.

 

[weberdarren97]

The PSU isn't compatible with the CPU sleep states , it's decent , but an outdated platform.

Completely true, but can't those be disabled in BIOS for that very reason?

 

[Sakkura]

The PSU isn't compatible with the CPU sleep states , it's decent , but an outdated platform.

Completely true, but can't those be disabled in BIOS for that very reason?

Should be, yes. These deep sleep states are not really beneficial on a desktop anyway.

 

[VunkJr]

The PSU isn't compatible with the CPU sleep states , it's decent , but an outdated platform.

So what does that mean? Should I go for another PSU then? PSUs are the things that I know nothing about

 

[JackNaylorPE]

The 12 volt rails are not true they have a single rail design even though it said that.
From the 2010 model.
To which I reply: calm down, people. Neither the manual nor the cabling made any indication of what went to what rail, so I popped the cover off. This unit does not have two 12V rails at all - it's a single 12V design
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=185

Seasonic has had two former models discontinued (See RealHardTech database) ... I had one of them ... the 2 x 20 watter, I didn't open it up, but that's what it said on the label. Not that it makes a darn bit of difference anyway.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3990

The PSU isn't compatible with the CPU sleep states , it's decent , but an outdated platform.

Seasonic never had it "Certified Compatible" other than the M12 650.... but CPU sleeps states work w/o issue on the ones we have built. If there's a problem, it certainly didn't manifest in any way. (ofc if it did, could just turn C7 setting off in BIOS). Used one as a test PSU up till about 10 months ago when I tested a user's PCU, his was bad, I let him keep it. Possibly the problem only manifests itself when using IGP, and with enough power being drawn off the 12v rail from other sources it doesn't rear its ugly head.

I think of it like RAM, I have never had RAM off the QVL in the last 20 years, but never had a pairing that didn't work. Never had a box w/o a GFX card and other items which also draw power and keep the PSU above it's min load limit, so that may be the reason we don't see it.