[citation][nom]casualcolors[/nom]Perhaps if you had a clearer understanding of history as recent as within the last 12 months, you'd be familiar with the reason why EA pulled their games from the Steam service in the first place. Their products that weren't originally part and parcel to the Origin service were rolled into it to essentially fill the role of the old EA downloader, which is presently defunct. The games were pulled from Steam because Valve attempted to assert a DLC policy concerning Battlefield 3 in particular that was disagreeable to EA and bordered on harmful to other retailers that EA supplies both retail game copies as well as DLC to. Regardless of how you want to look at EA, both they and Valve are eminently shrewd and you shouldn't be misled into thinking there is any good guy or bad guy when it comes to corporate relations in the world. That's an entirely too simple light to view things in.[/citation]
ea wanted dlc to be in game only, cutting out valve
valve wants dlc out of the game, which i believe it should be too.
i dont want in game dlc as much as i dont want in app purchase...
ea got way to greedy, and cut ties with steam.
[citation][nom]rantoc[/nom]Orgin downloads are always at 9-10mb/sec, Steam downloads about 1-2mb/sec. I hope Valve turn up the steam, the service is closer to still water than steam as of late - At least in Northern Europe. Both are download services and download speed is in my book one of the biggest values as a customer.[/citation]
i like not haveing my computer scanned, i also like steam. downloads are a 1 time deal for me, so speed isnt a huge factor, so long as its at least 1mbps im ok.
[citation][nom]mrpijey[/nom]Oh I understand it just fine thank you. My main issue isn't with Origin itself (even if I hate that I need to have yet another leaky service with my personal info just to play a game) but with EA that is by now well known for its hatred towards paying customers.And one very good point made in this thread is that Steam covers a lot of publishers. Origin covers EA, period. So when will we have BethesdaStore? ID-Wallet? MojangShop? ActivisionDollarSqueezer? Every publisher makes their own little store, just to pump customers of more personal info, draconian copy protections and buggy inbetween-software to slow down and cripple our computers... Steam was first and it has developed to a well respected and well used service. And one would think that companies would try to use the most known and most populated services to promote their software, not to make small stores of their own carrying a handful of games instead of thousands like Steam.And I also know very well the corporate world is everything but a dance on roses but here I choose the lesser of two evils - Valve. Valve has quality products behind them, a well established customer support and they listen to their fans. EA has gone from a respected developer to a black hole where there is no escape from - once EA sets their sight on a good developer they get sucked in and forced to make crappy console rehashes and endless sequels, each worse than the previous. I can't remember when the last time I was really excited over an EA game. Valve has continued to suprise me with excellent titles that stand up to time even today. Half-Life series. Portal series. Team Fortress 2. Heck, even Counter-Strike which I refuse to touch, but I can still see the quality behind it. With EA it's been endless crap products that may have looked nice at the surface, but quickly fell apart as soon as you touched it. And these endless sequels... The Sims series being the most notorious ones. The utter crappy Need For Speed series they dragged through the mud. And now Battlefield going the same way. There is just no end to their hunger of swallowing up creative studios and remaking them into drones, forking out one bad sequel after another.There was once a time I pulled a smile everytime I heard "EA Games - It's In the Game!". Today it's more "Oh crap, I hope this isn't one more cheesy console port sequel...". And yes, I am old enough to have experienced Skate Or Die! which was their first game. i still have the original floppy.Sorry for the long post, but I just don't have much respect for EA anymore after their swallowed up and killed most of my favorite developer studios - Bullfrog, Interplay, Binary Systems, Origin Systems (Wing Commander ), Maxis, Digital Illusions (for whom I worked for). And now I have to use their shoddy software just to play an occasional game from them (which is Mass Effect 3, and soon Crysis 3). Phooey.EA, give Valve a nice present, kiss and make up and strike some kind of deal. For the good of the customers.[/citation]
you missed westwood, than they fired almost all the staff... thats the one that stuck out the most for me...
maxis, i dont believe was touched, its just that will write went insane, and developed pet projects that were ok at first, but sucked more and more as the years went on.
[citation][nom]catatafish[/nom]I couldn't care less about any of this except for one thing......pardoning banned players. Banned means banned, not grounded. This just tells me that there are A LOT of banned players for them to forgive them and get them back as paying customers. If Pete Rose can't return to baseball, then I_Use_Aimbot_to_Dart_Spam shouldn't get to return to BF3.[/citation]
banned on the forums, means banned in an ea game.
complain about the game, banned
want to talk about the game... you are on thin ice
an obvious glitch gets pointed out... ban
i dont believe they ever fixed this, or at least it was never mentioned.
one person who got banned from playing ANY game of theirs from ea, didnt even do anything bad, someone else did, and quoted the guy, and he was banned.
ea has a SEVER ban problem with their service.
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