Various HP printer ink expiration dates analyzed

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I am curious about how well the ink carts for Thinkjets and Quietjets will
fare after 12 years in deep storage. I think the cart model number is
92261. I still have about 40 carts left. I do plan on using the Thinkjets
soon.

Being naturally miserly I do not want to toss them, even though I did not
get to use them up as planned so long ago.


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"jdj" <jdj@now.here> wrote in message
news😛an.2004.10.02.07.50.32.324032@now.here...
>I am curious about how well the ink carts for Thinkjets and Quietjets will
> fare after 12 years in deep storage. I think the cart model number is
> 92261. I still have about 40 carts left. I do plan on using the Thinkjets
> soon.

You have nothing to lose by trying them. Depending on the storage conditions
you may have more or less problems. Possible issues include the ink becoming
thicker (and more prone to clogging) due to vapor loss, and possible leaking
due to delaminating of the printhead. The first issue would be more prone in a
hot dry environment, the second in a hot environment. In either case, twelve
years is a long time 🙂.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
 
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My guess is that the CMOS battery has to be out for some time for a
capacitor to discharge enough for the CMOS to clear properly.


"Orak Listalavostok" <oraklistal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104048705.151458.249330@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Bob Headrick wrote:
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=bpa02075&dlc=en&lang=en
>
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=bpa02074
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=bua02014
>
> Orak Listalavostok wrote:
>> The unexplained HP engineering is why did three HP14 c5010a ink
>> tanks (all of which were placed in service on the same date with
>> all but one of which were immediately removed from service) report
>> "COLOR INK OUT" (even when 2 of the 3 were full of HP OEM ink!)?
>
> ... twas the night before Christmas ... my HP ink level sank ...
> ... not a printer was printing ... nary one of 3 tanks ...
>
> The good news:
> - We're back printing beautifully (better than before) scores of prints
> - Using (strangely) the original HP14 c5010a tri-color cartridge
> - Which previously exhibited the correct "COLOR INK OUT" message!
>
> The bad news:
> - I have no idea what particular event "cleared" the HP "memory"
>
> The lessons learned:
> - Switching the three cartridges Dec 24 had no effect on COLOR INK OUT
> - Filling the one empty cartridge also had no effect on COLOR INK OUT
> - Removing the CR2032 3V CMOS battery had no immediate efect ...
>
> The day after:
> - Yet, about 12 hours later (on Christmas day)
> - The completely full cartridge was removed ...
> - And then replaced with the original empty cartridge ...
>
> And it printed without error!
> After subsequent refilling ... the original PRINTER INK OUT HP14
> tri-color ink cartridge is printing beautifully vibrant photos even
> after scores of sheets of paper (and multiple refills).
>
> I guess it's the first Christmas present from HP to all of us.
> I can't explain it; if you can - please do!
>
> Orak Listalavostok
>
 
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In article <19-dnTxRrI1TdVPcRVn-vg@nildram.net>, SteveB wrote:
>My guess is that the CMOS battery has to be out for some time for a
>capacitor to discharge enough for the CMOS to clear properly.

Try this (with power off): Short together the connections to the CMOS
battery. Computer motherboards often have a place to put on a jumper
for doing this in case you added a password into your CMOS settings and
forgot the password.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
 
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In message <slrncsvcvo.bu1.don@manx.misty.com>, Don Klipstein
<don@manx.misty.com> writes
>In article <19-dnTxRrI1TdVPcRVn-vg@nildram.net>, SteveB wrote:
>>My guess is that the CMOS battery has to be out for some time for a
>>capacitor to discharge enough for the CMOS to clear properly.
>
> Try this (with power off): Short together the connections to the CMOS
>battery.

Is this really a good idea ??


> Computer motherboards often have a place to put on a jumper
>for doing this in case you added a password into your CMOS settings and
>forgot the password.

I thought they shorted the power pins of the CMOS chip which was
supplied from the battery via a resistor ?


J/.
--
John Beardmore
 
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In article <slrncsvcvo.bu1.don@manx.misty.com>,
Don Klipstein <don@manx.misty.com> wrote:
>In article <19-dnTxRrI1TdVPcRVn-vg@nildram.net>, SteveB wrote:
>>My guess is that the CMOS battery has to be out for some time for a
>>capacitor to discharge enough for the CMOS to clear properly.

> Try this (with power off):

Unplug power cable
Remove CMOS battery

> Short together the connections to the CMOS
>battery. Computer motherboards often have a place to put on a jumper
>for doing this in case you added a password into your CMOS settings and
>forgot the password.

I think you left out a couple of steps there, Don.


Gary

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"Sept. 11, 2001, already a day of immeasurable tragedy, cannot be
the day liberty perished in this country." Judge Gerald Tjoflat
 
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The idea of shorting the battery also put me on guard. I believe your
explanation is correct.

Art

John Beardmore wrote:

> In message <slrncsvcvo.bu1.don@manx.misty.com>, Don Klipstein
> <don@manx.misty.com> writes
>
>> In article <19-dnTxRrI1TdVPcRVn-vg@nildram.net>, SteveB wrote:
>>
>>> My guess is that the CMOS battery has to be out for some time for a
>>> capacitor to discharge enough for the CMOS to clear properly.
>>
>>
>> Try this (with power off): Short together the connections to the CMOS
>> battery.
>
>
> Is this really a good idea ??
>
>
>> Computer motherboards often have a place to put on a jumper
>> for doing this in case you added a password into your CMOS settings and
>> forgot the password.
>
>
> I thought they shorted the power pins of the CMOS chip which was
> supplied from the battery via a resistor ?
>
>
> J/.