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Hi,
can anyone help me out with a savegame from the mission with the radio
station and the howitzers?

Regards,
Marco
 
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I just picked up Vietcong in the bargain bin and regret it bigtime.

What a truely awful game with a terrible engine.
 
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GFree wrote:
> flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:
> > I just picked up Vietcong in the bargain bin and regret it bigtime.
> >
> > What a truely awful game with a terrible engine.
> >
>
> Can you elaborate? Seems a lot of people like the engine's ability to

> reproduce the thick jungle of Nam.

Lets just say that playing the sublime and unsurpassed HL2 has spoiled
me. :)
 
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Andrew wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2005 21:45:04 -0800, flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:
>
> >Lets just say that playing the sublime and unsurpassed HL2 has
spoiled
> >me. :)
>
> I think the Source engine would struggle to recreate Vietcong,
> especially in AI. Vietcong has its faults, but there are a hell of a
> lot of things it does exceptionally well. VC spoiled a lot more games
> for me, especially Far Cry that despite its great graphics has
> practically no environmental interaction or atmosphere.

It's not really about what the source engine can or cannot create,
thats besides the point.

The source engine does what it does brilliantly.

I'm talking about the engine used in vietcong, it feels and looks
horrible.

All the foilage is made up of blocky, blury textures.

The character models and facial animations are downright hideous.

Don't get me started on the gameplay itself which is equally terrible.
 
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flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:
> I just picked up Vietcong in the bargain bin and regret it bigtime.
>
> What a truely awful game with a terrible engine.
>

Can you elaborate? Seems a lot of people like the engine's ability to
reproduce the thick jungle of Nam.
 
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On 8 Feb 2005 21:45:04 -0800, flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:

>Lets just say that playing the sublime and unsurpassed HL2 has spoiled
>me. :)

I think the Source engine would struggle to recreate Vietcong,
especially in AI. Vietcong has its faults, but there are a hell of a
lot of things it does exceptionally well. VC spoiled a lot more games
for me, especially Far Cry that despite its great graphics has
practically no environmental interaction or atmosphere.
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"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On 8 Feb 2005 21:45:04 -0800, flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:
>
>>Lets just say that playing the sublime and unsurpassed HL2 has spoiled
>>me. :)
>
> I think the Source engine would struggle to recreate Vietcong,
> especially in AI. Vietcong has its faults, but there are a hell of a
> lot of things it does exceptionally well. VC spoiled a lot more games
> for me, especially Far Cry that despite its great graphics has
> practically no environmental interaction or atmosphere.

I thouyght VC did a lot of things very well, too. One of them was giving you
the feeling of being totally lost in a jungle and as you play further your
"jungle eyes" get better.
 
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Thusly GFree <nickt4001@yahoo.com.au> Spake Unto All:

>> What a truely awful game with a terrible engine.
>
>Can you elaborate? Seems a lot of people like the engine's ability to
>reproduce the thick jungle of Nam.

The graphics quality really is very low. Deus-Ex level, I'd say. The
extreme scripting also irritated me.
 
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On 9 Feb 2005 01:18:22 -0800, flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:

>Don't get me started on the gameplay itself which is equally terrible.

That is your personal view. Mine is that a lot of games could benefit
a lot from some of Vietcong's ideas - proper weapon sights, popping
your head up above cover to take a shot, climbing over obstacles,
interacting with vegetation (Far Cry feels like you are in noclip mode
in comparison), great squad/enemy AI (VC has some terrible aspects to
the AI on occasions too), atmospheric jungle graphics with sound to
match, searching bodies.
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rms schrieb:
> Shouldn't have a problem finding help at the Vietcong forums:
> http://www.gathering.com/forums/index.php?c=2

There's a bug on the registration page. I'm asked to fill in the
following information:

Username: *
E-mail address: *
Password: *
Confirm password: *
: *

First 4 lines are familiar, but what am I supposed to fill in the last
line? It's empty. So I get an error message when submitting a blank line.

Marco
 
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> All the foilage is made up of blocky, blury textures.

I had no complaints about the vegetation, in fact I think it's quite
good. What resolution are you playing at, and do you have the detail
sliders turned up.

> The character models and facial animations are downright hideous.

The facial animations are very similar to those in HL1.

> Don't get me started on the gameplay itself which is equally terrible.

I'm shaking my head at this one. The firefights (on the hardest skill
level) are about as good as it gets in an FPS. The AI has excellent
pathfinding skills, the soundeffects are very good, the weapon animations
and player movement have FarCry beat easily.

Vietcong is a difficult game with a few quirks. So you didn't like it.
I say it well deserves a 8/10 or higher.

rms

>
 
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> Vietcong is a difficult game with a few quirks. So you didn't like it.
> I say it well deserves a 8/10 or higher.

I totally agree to that.
Now does anybody have a savegame from Fist Alpha's howitzer mission?

Cheers,
Marco
 
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> Now does anybody have a savegame from Fist Alpha's howitzer mission?

I posted your request on the Gathering forums, and complained about the
forum errors too

rms
 
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"Marco Froehlich" <marcf@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote in message
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> > Vietcong is a difficult game with a few quirks. So you didn't like
it.
> > I say it well deserves a 8/10 or higher.
>
> I totally agree to that.
> Now does anybody have a savegame from Fist Alpha's howitzer mission?
>
> Cheers,
> Marco

I use to have it on my pc, but took it off awhile back. While I don't have
a save to send, here's a few links that might help. From what I recall,
there's a couple missions in the game that were tricky.


http://db.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/vietcong_fist_alpha.txt

Also try this site. You might find a better FAQ/Hints guide there. And
try posting your request in their forum.
http://vietcong.lobogames.com/

hope this helps.
 
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flightlessvacuum@lycos.com wrote:

> I just picked up Vietcong in the bargain bin and regret it bigtime.
>
> What a truely awful game with a terrible engine.

Not very efficient engine, but I think it's a great game.
It's just unfortunate that even on my 2600+ with
9800 Pro, it runs very choppy at certain points.
I've packed it away and plan to reinstalll it on a
future machine - it's honestly a good game.

P.
 
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:04:55 -0000, "Paul Moloney"
<paul_moloney@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Not very efficient engine, but I think it's a great game.
>It's just unfortunate that even on my 2600+ with
>9800 Pro, it runs very choppy at certain points.
>I've packed it away and plan to reinstalll it on a
>future machine - it's honestly a good game.

That sounds a bit odd, it runs fine on my 2500+/9700 Pro/768MB.
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Andrew wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:04:55 -0000, "Paul Moloney"
> <paul_moloney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not very efficient engine, but I think it's a great game.
>> It's just unfortunate that even on my 2600+ with
>> 9800 Pro, it runs very choppy at certain points.
>> I've packed it away and plan to reinstalll it on a
>> future machine - it's honestly a good game.
>
> That sounds a bit odd, it runs fine on my 2500+/9700 Pro/768MB.

Go figure. I almost wept (OK, I exaggerate) when I upgraded
from a GeForce 2 Ti to a 9800 Pro and found it didn't improve
the performance that much (it turns out that Vietcong is very CPU-
intensive). It was fine most of the time, but there's one level where you
end up pinned down at a hilltop camp, and things slowed down
rapidly there.

Hmm, maybe I'll install it again just to see!

P.
 
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:16:35 -0000, "Paul Moloney"
<paul_moloney@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Go figure. I almost wept (OK, I exaggerate) when I upgraded
>from a GeForce 2 Ti to a 9800 Pro and found it didn't improve
>the performance that much (it turns out that Vietcong is very CPU-
>intensive). It was fine most of the time, but there's one level where you
>end up pinned down at a hilltop camp, and things slowed down
>rapidly there.

I haven't played it for a while, I think it might have slowed down a
bit on that level, but it was never unplayable. That level is hard
though.
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Andrew wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:16:35 -0000, "Paul Moloney"
> <paul_moloney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Go figure. I almost wept (OK, I exaggerate) when I upgraded
>
>>from a GeForce 2 Ti to a 9800 Pro and found it didn't improve
>
>>the performance that much (it turns out that Vietcong is very CPU-
>>intensive). It was fine most of the time, but there's one level where you
>>end up pinned down at a hilltop camp, and things slowed down
>>rapidly there.
>
>
> I haven't played it for a while, I think it might have slowed down a
> bit on that level, but it was never unplayable. That level is hard
> though.

That is where I stopped playing - so hard it stopped being fun.
Constantly reloading and playing through the same parts again and again
but never getting to the end. Perhaps I should re-install and try it
again.

Played fine on the 2800+/9800Pro/1GB RAM. The NVidia drivers *were*
completely nuked on your PC before loading your 9800Pro?

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so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts"

Bertrand Russell
 
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