Question Vrm overclocking limits

[Corgoi]

So I know the mb's vrm heatsinks play a big role in overclocking, but, when I hit the oc limit caused by the vrms (since my cooler is really good it must be the vrms that will limit the oc's) will I see signs of the oc not being stable anymore (cpu temps too high/ screen artifacts etc) or is it just like: OK so my mb's vrms are this good, and based on reviews, i should only oc my cpu to x ghz,because if I go higher, I risk damaging the mb's vrms and never knowing

 

[jankerson]

What MB is it and what CPU?

 

[Corgoi]

Z3

What MB is it and what CPU?

Z370-p ii probably, but might get a z370-a pro or tomahawk
Just consider it's z370-p ii
And cpu i5 9600k

 

[jankerson]

Z3
Z370-p ii probably, but might get a z370-a pro or tomahawk
Just consider it's z370-p ii
And cpu i5 9600k

You will need a Z390 MB.

Something tier B or above, tier A or above for a 5 Ghz OC.

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[Corgoi]

You will need a Z390 MB.

I'm not trying to oc to 50 ghz just some ~5 ghz oc with adequate cooling

 

[jankerson]

I'm not trying to oc to 50 ghz just some ~5 ghz oc with adequate cooling

Read my above post and look at the tier list.

Those MB you picked likely won't even boot with a 9600K without a bios update.

You will need a good MB to make 5 GHz.

 

[Corgoi]

Read my above post and look at the tier list.

Those MB you picked likely won't even boot with a 9600K without a bios update.

You will need a good MB to make 5 GHz.

I can get the bios update

 

[jankerson]

I can get the bios update

Look at the tier list, you will need a better MB than those you listed to do what you want.

And a Z390 MB.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I can get the bios update

You would need an 8th gen CPU to perform the update. Or do you mean you have local computer shop or something that will do it for you?

 

[jankerson]

You would need an 8th gen CPU to perform the update. Or do you mean you have local computer shop or something that will do it for you?

That and the MB's he is looking at won't last very long OCing them, they are very low end.... VERY.

That's if they will even hold any sort of OC in the 1st place.

 

[Corgoi]

You would need an 8th gen CPU to perform the update. Or do you mean you have local computer shop or something that will do it for you?

The retailers do update the bios, and just in case they don't, yes i have access to an 8th gen cpu pc

 

[Corgoi]

Look at the tier list, you will need a better MB than those you listed to do what you want.

And a Z390a

Look at the tier list, you will need a better MB than those you listed to do what you want.

And a Z390 MB.

A z390 doesn't quite fit in my budget

 

[jankerson]

The retailers do update the bios, and just in case they don't, yes i have access to an 8th gen cpu pc

Doesn't matter, you will need a higher end MB than any of the ones you listed.

 

[jankerson]

A z390 doesn't quite fit in my budget

Then you need to forget about it totally or save more money.

You do NOT want to even try and do it with those MB's, you will be wasting your money completely.

All you will end up doing is burning up the MB.

 

[Corgoi]

Then you need to forget about it totally or save more money.

You do NOT want to even try and do it with those MB's, you will be wasting your money completely.

Shit xd
Alright then, thanks a lot for the answers, i guess I'm gonna start saving up a bit

 

[jankerson]

Shit xd
Alright then, thanks a lot for the answers, i guess I'm gonna start saving up a bit

Yes, that is the smart thing to do.

 

[TJ Hooker]

I'm not trying to oc to 50 ghz just some ~5 ghz oc with adequate cooling

I think 5 GHz isn't as easy as you imagine. Here's a recent article about overclocking a 9600K with cheap Z390 boards, and 5GHz is as far as they can get. And those boards look to have better VRMs than any of the Z370s you listed.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cheap-z390-motherboards-compared,6090-2.html

 

[jankerson]

I think 5 GHz isn't as easy as you imagine. Here's a recent article about overclocking a 9600K with cheap Z390 boards, and 5GHz is as far as they can get. And those boards look to have better VRMs than any of the Z370s you listed.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cheap-z390-motherboards-compared,6090-2.html

It's easy on the high end MB's with solid high quality VRMS, it's like 2 clicks and done.

Not so much on the others however.

The 9600K is a great OCer, but you still need a good MB.

 

[TJ Hooker]

That's what I was getting at.

 

[DSzymborski]

The retailers do update the bios, and just in case they don't, yes i have access to an 8th gen cpu pc

Typically they don't.

 

[Corgoi]

Typically they don't.

Well someone commented on a local store site that he got the 9600k on the z370-p ii and it just worked

 

[DSzymborski]

Well someone commented on a local store site that he got the 9600k on the z370-p ii and it just worked

Yes, but that's usually the exception. Most motherboards are sold from larger retailers and those aren't cost-effective to be upgraded prior to sale.

 

[Corgoi]

Yes, but that's usually the exception. Most motherboards are sold from larger retailers and those aren't cost-effective to be upgraded prior to sale.

Yes, but that's usually the exception. Most motherboards are sold from larger retailers and those aren't cost-effective to be upgraded prior to sale.

So where can I update the bios for a small cost?

 

[DSzymborski]

So where can I update the bios for a small cost?

A local repair shop if there's one nearby. Or you'll have to talk with the manufacturer.

Your choice is either to do it yourself if you have the proper CPU (as you say you do) or spent way more in time and/or money than its worth.

If you're not set up to do it easily yourself, it doesn't make sense to just not get the proper motherboard from the start.

 

[jankerson]

A local repair shop if there's one nearby. Or you'll have to talk with the manufacturer.

Your choice is either to do it yourself if you have the proper CPU (as you say you do) or spent way more in time and/or money than its worth.

If you're not set up to do it easily yourself, it doesn't make sense to just not get the proper motherboard from the start.

If he doesn't listen and uses that MB it either won't work at all or he will end up burning it up when he tries to OC it.

So it really doesn't matter. 😉

He will end up having to get another MB anyway and maybe another CPU on top of it.

And he has another thread going now too on this. 😉

So it sounds like he will keep going until someone tells him what he wants to hear.