Want a more quiet CPU Cooler

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I just upgraded my trusty PIII 450 system. Actually the only thing I kept
were two previous component upgrades, my 80 GB HD and my Asus V7100 GeForce
2 MX Pro 64MB Video Card.

I intended to purchase an Asus A7N8X-X with a Athlon 2600+, but I accidently
ordered the Via based A7V8X-X motherboard and chip bundle instead. I'm
thinking I'll build this motherboard combo into another system, sell it, and
get the nvidia chipset A7N8X-X that I inteded to get for myself. I'm not
the overclocking type, but I'd sorta feel better having the Nvidia board
since I had heard such good things about it. Am I being silly? Making a
mountain out of a molehill? I figure I can turn a profit on the system I
sell and subsidize my upgrade.

I get the feeling this VIA based motherboard would work out quite nicely if
I wanted to stick with it. I'm a little less kean about the heatsink and
fan combo that was provided in the bundle http://tinyurl.com/2lhnv. It's a
SPEEZE 5R281B1H3G Like this one
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-013&depa=0
I didn't have any expectations that they'd bundle a high end heat sink and
fan, but I had hoped a stock fan, not intended for overclocking, would be a
bit quieter.
http://www.speezeusa.com/5r281b1h3.asp - this looks like the manufacturers
page for the cpu cooler I got stuck with (but mine has a "G" on the end of
the model number). It's spec'd at 30dB, and I apparently find that too
loud. I'd love some reccommendations for a better heatsink fan combo.

In keeping with my plan to build the VIA based Mobo into another computer
and sell it, I'm considering getting a 2nd Mobo/Chip combo from either
http://www.bzboyz.com/store/product3090.html or the same place I got my last
(misordered) one from http://tinyurl.com/2ut6u. Any recommendations for a
shop to order from? I'd prefer it be outside of California so I avoid sales
tax
Both of these places I spotted offer upgraded cooling options, but neither
are very descriptive as to what you are upgrading to. I can pick a specific
model cooling option through the website another way, I just need to know
what to select. So any suggestions for a well priced quiet cooling option
are much appreciated.

Thanks in Advance,
-Ethan

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In article <KPqdnb_C2ouRMfbdRVn-uA@comcast.com>, Hupjack says...
>
>I just upgraded my trusty PIII 450 system. Actually the only thing I kept
>were two previous component upgrades, my 80 GB HD and my Asus V7100 GeForce
>2 MX Pro 64MB Video Card.
>
>I intended to purchase an Asus A7N8X-X with a Athlon 2600+, but I accidently
>ordered the Via based A7V8X-X motherboard and chip bundle instead. I'm
>thinking I'll build this motherboard combo into another system, sell it, and
>get the nvidia chipset A7N8X-X that I inteded to get for myself. I'm not
>the overclocking type, but I'd sorta feel better having the Nvidia board
>since I had heard such good things about it. Am I being silly? Making a
>mountain out of a molehill? I figure I can turn a profit on the system I
>sell and subsidize my upgrade.
>
>I get the feeling this VIA based motherboard would work out quite nicely if
>I wanted to stick with it. I'm a little less kean about the heatsink and
>fan combo that was provided in the bundle http://tinyurl.com/2lhnv. It's a
>SPEEZE 5R281B1H3G Like this one
>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-013&depa=0
>I didn't have any expectations that they'd bundle a high end heat sink and
>fan, but I had hoped a stock fan, not intended for overclocking, would be a
>bit quieter.
>http://www.speezeusa.com/5r281b1h3.asp - this looks like the manufacturers
>page for the cpu cooler I got stuck with (but mine has a "G" on the end of
>the model number). It's spec'd at 30dB, and I apparently find that too
>loud. I'd love some reccommendations for a better heatsink fan combo.
>
>In keeping with my plan to build the VIA based Mobo into another computer
>and sell it, I'm considering getting a 2nd Mobo/Chip combo from either
>http://www.bzboyz.com/store/product3090.html or the same place I got my last
>(misordered) one from http://tinyurl.com/2ut6u. Any recommendations for a
>shop to order from? I'd prefer it be outside of California so I avoid sales
>tax
>Both of these places I spotted offer upgraded cooling options, but neither
>are very descriptive as to what you are upgrading to. I can pick a specific
>model cooling option through the website another way, I just need to know
>what to select. So any suggestions for a well priced quiet cooling option
>are much appreciated.
>
>Thanks in Advance,
>-Ethan
>
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>To e-mail me, replace "_nospamtoday_" with the "@" symbol when replying to
>my address.
>
>
Last week I put together a build with a A7N8X-X refurbed board for 41 bucks with
a retail 2500 Barton for 80 bucks both from Newegg. Put it in a Sonata refurb
for 67 bucks and it runs silent and cool (32c idle).

Even with sales tax, that's real hard to beat. This is the fourth refurb board
that I have purchased from them in the last 6 months and they have worked
flawlessly ( 2 A7N266-VM, 1 A7N8X-DX and the A7N8X-X ).

I wish I could say somethin nice about that Via board but I have heard too many
complaints lately. That could be a problem for you or maybe not.

Ed

 

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Hupjack wrote:
> I just upgraded my trusty PIII 450 system. Actually the only thing I
> kept were two previous component upgrades, my 80 GB HD and my Asus
> V7100 GeForce 2 MX Pro 64MB Video Card.
>
> I intended to purchase an Asus A7N8X-X with a Athlon 2600+, but I
> accidently ordered the Via based A7V8X-X motherboard and chip bundle
> instead. I'm thinking I'll build this motherboard combo into another
> system, sell it, and get the nvidia chipset A7N8X-X that I inteded to
> get for myself. I'm not the overclocking type, but I'd sorta feel
> better having the Nvidia board since I had heard such good things
> about it. Am I being silly? Making a mountain out of a molehill? I
> figure I can turn a profit on the system I sell and subsidize my
> upgrade.
>
> I get the feeling this VIA based motherboard would work out quite
> nicely if I wanted to stick with it. I'm a little less kean about
> the heatsink and fan combo that was provided in the bundle
> http://tinyurl.com/2lhnv. It's a SPEEZE 5R281B1H3G Like this one
>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-013&depa=0
> I didn't have any expectations that they'd bundle a high end heat
> sink and fan, but I had hoped a stock fan, not intended for
> overclocking, would be a bit quieter.
> http://www.speezeusa.com/5r281b1h3.asp - this looks like the
> manufacturers page for the cpu cooler I got stuck with (but mine has
> a "G" on the end of the model number). It's spec'd at 30dB, and I
> apparently find that too loud. I'd love some reccommendations for a
> better heatsink fan combo.
>
> In keeping with my plan to build the VIA based Mobo into another
> computer and sell it, I'm considering getting a 2nd Mobo/Chip combo
> from either http://www.bzboyz.com/store/product3090.html or the same
> place I got my last (misordered) one from http://tinyurl.com/2ut6u.
> Any recommendations for a shop to order from? I'd prefer it be
> outside of California so I avoid sales tax
> Both of these places I spotted offer upgraded cooling options, but
> neither are very descriptive as to what you are upgrading to. I can
> pick a specific model cooling option through the website another way,
> I just need to know what to select. So any suggestions for a well
> priced quiet cooling option are much appreciated.


http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2048.html


Use a Speeze heatsink with an 80mm fan rather than a 60mm fan. The
FalconRock is one such example.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=62&manufactory=1856&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

You might be able to use a quiet 60mm fan on your existing Speeze cooler,
however cooling will suffer.
http://sidewindercomputers.com/van60stealfa.html

 

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> Last week I put together a build with a A7N8X-X refurbed board for 41
bucks with
> a retail 2500 Barton for 80 bucks both from Newegg. Put it in a Sonata
refurb
> for 67 bucks and it runs silent and cool (32c idle).
>
> Even with sales tax, that's real hard to beat. This is the fourth refurb
board
> that I have purchased from them in the last 6 months and they have worked
> flawlessly ( 2 A7N266-VM, 1 A7N8X-DX and the A7N8X-X ).
>
> I wish I could say somethin nice about that Via board but I have heard too
many
> complaints lately. That could be a problem for you or maybe not.

Ed thanks a lot for the info. I like the refurb idea. I didn't know they
were available. I wonder under what circumstances these are being
refurbished. It says they are done by the original manufacturer so I guess
newegg gets them from Asus.

strange... they have this Asus A7N8X
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-455R&type=Refurbish
for 5 bucks cheaper than the A7N8X-X
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-468R&type=Refurbish

It says it's the newer A7N8X version that supports the Barton core. With
the Dual Channel mode chipset, shouldn't the A7N8X be the more expensive
one? I think I might just need to grab that.

May I ask what you've been up to in the last 6 months buying 4 refurb
boards? Building machines and selling them?

Thanks for the info Ed Much appreciated.. I'm jazzed about this refurb
channel.
-Ethan

 

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> http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2048.html

thanks for the tip.. I'll make use of that in the future for sure.. Good
tool to have at my disposal.

> Use a Speeze heatsink with an 80mm fan rather than a 60mm fan. The
> FalconRock is one such example.
>
>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactory&catalog=62&manufactory=1856&DEPA=1&sortby=14&order=1

The idea there being that the 80mm fan won't have to spin as fast, hence not
as loud, but will move the same ammount of air thus doing a sufficient
cooling job? Since I'm going to ditch this Via board and get the nForce
based model that I meant to get, I'll make sure to get a better cooler with
it. Any reccommendations for a well priced, quiet, good quality cooling
option? The A7N8X-X or athlon 2500+ of the cooling world

>
> You might be able to use a quiet 60mm fan on your existing Speeze cooler,
> however cooling will suffer.
> http://sidewindercomputers.com/van60stealfa.html

Thanks for the info,
-Ethan

 

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Thanks for the info... New Egg is looking pretty darned good.

> Anything is going to sound noisy compared to your old 450 P3..... but
> here's one that is about as quiet as you will find for that Athlon.

I don't know. My old PSU fan made a fair amount of noise. I'm sure it was
noisier than the PIII's fan.

Ed's comments seem to indicate that he was able to get his pretty darned
quiet. Perhaps silent is an exaggeration?
---------------------------
Last week I put together a build with a A7N8X-X refurbed board for 41 bucks
with
a retail 2500 Barton for 80 bucks both from Newegg. Put it in a Sonata
refurb
for 67 bucks and it runs silent and cool (32c idle).
---------------------------
Ed... what cooler did you use to achieve silence? Does the Sonata case do
a good noise dampening job or was your cooler just not making any

Thanks for the rest of the input below... much appreciated..

-Ethan

> -
> It's a Cooler-Master ("quiet series") model DP5-7JD1B-OL .
> (OL designation = CoolerMaster's quiet series)
> Big fan... low RPMs..... rated at between 22 and 24 DB.
> It's good..... I've got one.
> -
> http://www.directron.com/dp57jd1b.html
> (Directron.... a Texas based company)
> -
> A for your choice of vendors.... look up anyone you don't know at
> Reseller Ratings before buying from them
> www.resellerratings.com
> -
> Newegg is about the best there is these days.... and even though they
> are in California..... they are cheap enough and good enough that I
> don't mind paying the California sales tax on most items.
> -
> PS....
> You can always quiet down a fan a little by adding a "FanMate" speed
> control.... for about $6.
> -
> ~ Guy ~
>

 

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> It's fun but not much cheaper than likker and wimmenz.

hilarious.... you sound like a kick ass grandpa
keep up the good work!

 

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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 18:13:22 -0800, "Hupjack"
<hupjack_nospamtoday_yahoo.com> wrote:


>Ed thanks a lot for the info. I like the refurb idea. I didn't know they
>were available. I wonder under what circumstances these are being
>refurbished. It says they are done by the original manufacturer so I guess
>newegg gets them from Asus.

They do, or from customer returns.

>
>strange... they have this Asus A7N8X
>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-455R&type=Refurbish
>for 5 bucks cheaper than the A7N8X-X
>http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-468R&type=Refurbish
>
>It says it's the newer A7N8X version that supports the Barton core. With
>the Dual Channel mode chipset, shouldn't the A7N8X be the more expensive
>one? I think I might just need to grab that.

Pricing @ newegg doesn't always make a lot of sense, it's hit-or-miss what
a given board sells for, more or less expensive.

Keep in mind that Asus refurbs generally don't come with any
accessories... for instance the rear I/O shield, aka- backplate. More and
more newer boards don't use a standard backplate so unless you're in the
mood to fabricate one you'l be needing to get in touch with Asus to
order/buy one, if they won't send it free (which they will do from time to
time).

You can check their pictures to see what else the retail board comes with
that (probably) won't be included with a refurb'd board. Some of the
other brands of refurbs, like Gigabyte or MSI, have better odds of coming
with at least "some" of the accessories.

 

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Hupjack wrote:
> The idea there being that the 80mm fan won't have to spin as fast,
> hence not as loud, but will move the same ammount of air thus doing a
> sufficient cooling job? Since I'm going to ditch this Via board and
> get the nForce based model that I meant to get, I'll make sure to get
> a better cooler with it. Any reccommendations for a well priced,
> quiet, good quality cooling option? The A7N8X-X or athlon 2500+ of
> the cooling world

An 80mm fan can spin at lower RPMs while still moving a sufficient amount of
air to provide cooling. More importantly, the pitch of the sound it creates
is much less harsh than that of the 60mm variety.

Order the retail variety of the 2500+. It comes with a heatsink and 60mm
fan. If the HSF is not to your liking, buy a third party make, like the
Speeze, Spire, or TR2TT(Thermaltake).

The stock heatsink keeps my Athlon XP running at 2200MHz cool enough to run
Prime95 for days on end, with little noise.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-379&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-468&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-127-144&depa=1

Do yourself a favor and buy from Newegg, Zipzoomfly, or Directron, the
latter of which is in Texas.

 

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weird.. this reply I sent to USA_Guy's post on Thursday, April 01, 2004
6:42 PM
didn't show up.. When I looked at the NG after posting, it showed it
posted, and then lined it out in OE6 (removed) I saw the header posted but
it was immediately lined out.. never downloaded anything but the header.
Did you all see it as part of the thread? I wonder if I was posting so many
notes, the NG thought I was spamming and censored me

I figured I'd repost it since I appreciated USA_Guy's reply and didn't want
him to think I ignored his post My follow up questions and comments are
still relevant.

> Anything is going to sound noisy compared to your old 450 P3..... but
> here's one that is about as quiet as you will find for that Athlon.

I don't know. My old PSU fan made a fair amount of noise. I'm sure it was
noisier than the PIII's fan.

Ed's comments seem to indicate that he was able to get his pretty darned
quiet. Perhaps silent is an exaggeration?
---------------------------
Last week I put together a build with a A7N8X-X refurbed board for 41 bucks
with a retail 2500 Barton for 80 bucks both from Newegg. Put it in a Sonata
refurb for 67 bucks and it runs silent and cool (32c idle).
---------------------------
Ed... what cooler did you use to achieve silence? Does the Sonata case do
a good noise dampening job or was your cooler just not making any

Thanks for the rest of the input below... much appreciated..

-Ethan

> -
> It's a Cooler-Master ("quiet series") model DP5-7JD1B-OL .
> (OL designation = CoolerMaster's quiet series)
> Big fan... low RPMs..... rated at between 22 and 24 DB.
> It's good..... I've got one.
> -
> http://www.directron.com/dp57jd1b.html
> (Directron.... a Texas based company)
> -
> A for your choice of vendors.... look up anyone you don't know at
> Reseller Ratings before buying from them
> www.resellerratings.com
> -
> Newegg is about the best there is these days.... and even though they
> are in California..... they are cheap enough and good enough that I
> don't mind paying the California sales tax on most items.
> -
> PS....
> You can always quiet down a fan a little by adding a "FanMate" speed
> control.... for about $6.
> -
> ~ Guy ~
>