Want a Penryn processor crack open an apple!

[ctbaars]

I'm losing focus here.
What were the Pros and Cons again?

 

[dobby]

I'm losing focus here.
What were the Pros and Cons again?

windows good
Mac Bad

For pros and cons re-read the whole thread

 

[Grimmy]

Well.. the only good is perhaps obtaining a Intel chip that you just can find on the market at the moment, as Dragon started out. :lol:. o O (well if your crazy enough to think its.. good)

 

[jimmysmitty]

The irony there is indescribably amusing after your earlier "Apple sucks" tirade.
That's the point I was going for, there are way too many people on here who hate Apple for no other reason than they market and sell a product they don't want... They don't know anything about them, they just hate them...
It's pathetic...

I just say Apple sucks cuz they can only advertise their computers by bad mouthing PCs. Now they use PC hardware so they bad mouth Vista. Why can't they do like their iPod commercials and not talk trash? I hate companies that talk trash about other companies in their advertisement. Its very unprofessional.

I have used Apple. I have used Unix/Linux. I don't prefer either and like PCs and Windows. Vista is a good OS and easy to use. Well for me. The only time that alert pops up for me is if I open a .rar or run a .exe. And that makes sense. If anything could just start to run or load on your PC you would be screwed.

Anywho. Apple can keep producing their commercials and stupid non PC literates can follow them like blind sheep and thats fine with me. It seems thats who they are targeting.

 

[jimmysmitty]

Yeah agree with most of what you said but the most BSOD in Vista has been down to third party drives such as Nvidia for example !!!!

Agreed. 2 things have caused Vista to BSoD on me. My video card drives (yes even ATIs drivers have a few problems) and when I was first OC'ing the memory was unstable. Just raised the voltage a bit and I was set. But I have read that 2/3rds of all Vista BSoDs are caused by nVidia drivers that are unstable.

Oh, and here is how I know most MAC users are not "wiser" than PC users. Everyone of them uses the "MACs don't have as many viruses as PC so I don't need to worry". Now if thats wiser then I am very scared.

Hey, its only for your own good. So if you don't have a Mac you don't know what you're missing

I do. And its nuthin.

Hey you have a Macintosh, so why don't you help raise awareness
Macintosh for life

You don't want awareness. The more people you get to accept MACs the more viruses you will see.

Hey its not just about getting it done its about ease of use

PC is very easy for me to use. I love being able to power it on and watch all the blue LEDs come on and it shines. Its pretty.

This wouldn't happen if you used a Macintosh in the first place. Now does everbody see the effects of not having one?

^ umm one problem, my computer I was using WAS a Macintosh (macbook)

Sorry but thats funny. HAHA. Ok. Macgirl. That could have been a hardware error which can happen on a MAC too. Most software errors are mainly due to bad drivers or corrupted software, not the OS.

 

[turboflame]

The Apple Mac Pro. The greatest computer ever conceived and constructed. Only a man like Steve Jobs could create such a marvel.

Bullsh1t.

Let's take a look at this.

Let's build us a Mac Pro from Apple's official website.

Let's give it the most powerful processor, RAM, HD, and graphics options available.

Let's give it two quadcore CPUs at 3.0 GHz.

Let's give it just one 750 GB HD.

Let's give it 16 GB of RAM.

Now let's give it a NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB, Stereo 3D (2 x dual-link DVI) for the graphics.

Now let's forget everything else, all the other tacked-on ****, no modem or monitor even.

The Mac's final cost: $10,543.00

Now let's go to newegg and build the exact same thing.

Let's give our newegg computer the exact same **** for HD, RAM, and CPU options. Hell, let's give it another CPU, and another damn graphics card, and finally let's slap on two cases.

That's right, two **** cases, and let's make sure they're just as tough as the Mac's case, and make sure they're the most expensive cases Newegg has to offer.

And let's assume you pay some **** a thousand bucks to assemble it. And let's buy both Vista AND XP while we're at it.

PC Final cost: $7,069.83

Damn, what should we do with that $3,473.17? Let's buy five God damn XBox 360s and while we're at it let's get some of the newest shootin` games, like BioShock, Halo 3, and the VALVE Orange Box.

Now what should we do with what we have left?

****, why not put a down payment on one of those new Maserati? And let's buy some fcuking cocaine while we're at it, and maybe get some surgery to turn our right arm into a giant ****. Why the hell not? With all that money I could've wasted on a MacPRO, I could instead make my arm a **** penis to shove up Steve Jobs ass, hopefully killing him.

 

[ctbaars]

Turboflame:
I think you are comaparing apples to oranges there.
Are you a bitter Mac owner?

 

[turboflame]

Turboflame:
I think you are comaparing apples to oranges there.

Hardware costs = apples to apples

Are you a bitter Mac owner?

lolwut

 

[Harry-Plopper]

Hardware costs = apples to apples

Are you a bitter Mac owner?

lolwut

jeez turbo, need to calm down abit there earlier buddy..... your blood pressure increased on that one ...

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/IT-FUD-blog/2008/04/with-the-first-service-pack-1.html

Any way, the main reason Vista is a polished turd.... Stick with XP until Windows 7 comes out... What are you really getting for that extra money.... FRUSTRATION

if its in your box, and you know it aint good.. Who ya gonna call, VISTA BUSTERS...

 

[turboflame]

jeez turbo, need to calm down abit there earlier buddy..... your blood pressure increased on that one ...

Yeah, I actually found that on another forum and thought it was pretty funny so I posted it here. The sad thing is that it's true since they posted links and everything to verify the cost difference.

 

[ctbaars]

Yeah, lets take a look at Andrew and John.

Andrew Plato, president at Anitian Enterprise Security, says ...
Macs are mostly in the hands of average folks <-- Not true, already shown
with limited IT skills. <-- I'll agree with that. I would say average skills.
He just wants to sell more anti-virus software ... He doesn't know what he is talking about.

John Eaton, president of Eaton & Associates, an Apple solution provider in ... "To assume that the knowledge of the user is related to the problems with viruses and spyware is incorrect, in my opinion,"...
Of course! This Apple salesman wants to sell Apples. It's not the user that's better, it's the Apple that's better. What a pitch! His opinion ...

...I don't see any higher level of sophistication on one platform or the other," Eaton said.
Now this is double talk so he can claim it both ways later.

Oh, you can laugh all you want turboflame. We all can see it. You're a closet Mac owner ... comon' now, say it ...

 

[turboflame]

Yeah, lets take a look at Andrew and John.

Andrew Plato, president at Anitian Enterprise Security, says ...
Macs are mostly in the hands of average folks <-- Not true, already shown
with limited IT skills. <-- I'll agree with that. I would say average skills.
He just wants to sell more anti-virus software ... He doesn't know what he is talking about.

John Eaton, president of Eaton & Associates, an Apple solution provider in ... "To assume that the knowledge of the user is related to the problems with viruses and spyware is incorrect, in my opinion,"...
Of course! This Apple salesman wants to sell Apples. It's not the user that's better, it's the Apple that's better. What a pitch! His opinion ...

...I don't see any higher level of sophistication on one platform or the other," Eaton said.
Now this is double talk so he can claim it both ways later.

Your "evidence" is still just opinion and speculation, OSX is better at somethings than windows such as vulnerability to viruses. Even that is just because of security through obscurity. Do you want to write a virus that can attack ~90% of computers or ~8% of computers?

Oh, you can laugh all you want turboflame. We all can see it. You're a closet Mac owner ... comon' now, say it ...

never

 

[ctbaars]

Harry:

In a sense I agree with you and really the article you posted.

All current OS's work. They do.
Don't upgrade; Stick with what you got and save your money, I say.

 

[ctbaars]

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed this one is not like the others,
Then you're absolutely...right!

by Joe Raposo and Jon Stone

What I'm curious about is what are the other 2% ? undecided? lol

 

[jimmysmitty]

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed this one is not like the others,
Then you're absolutely...right!

by Joe Raposo and Jon Stone

What I'm curious about is what are the other 2% ? undecided? lol

Linux. They have a pengiun. To who they plug their USBs into......

 

[Harry-Plopper]

Linux. They have a pengiun. To who they plug their USBs into......

I always wondered why that linux penguin had that happy like exhausted look,, hes missing the cigarette

Just plug away with the usb drive buddy, plug away..

 

[Shadow703793]

There is no point in buying a Mac. If you wanted to run Mac OS (which I already do) you can still do it on PC without having to pay $2k extra for some cr@ppy Mac. I can also run Linux,Windows on a PC. You can't OC the Mac either.

 

[Shadow703793]

Oh yeah and who got hacked First? :lol:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/27/Gone-in-2-minutes-Mac-gets-hacked-first-in-contest_1.html

 

[ctbaars]

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/04/21/17FE-macs-in-business_1.html#commentForm

"Macs -- which cost the same as equivalently configured business-class PCs -- are cheaper to support because they are easier to support. And when it comes to diverting IT resources toward competitive advantage, doesn't ease of support sound compelling?"

 

[Harry-Plopper]

Oh yeah and who got hacked First? :lol:
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/27/Gone-in-2-minutes-Mac-gets-hacked-first-in-contest_1.html

Yeah agreed but it was a dodgy new browser version of Safari...

Not really the OS, but then again the system was open for attack...

 

[B-Unit]

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/04/21/17FE-macs-in-business_1.html#commentForm

"Macs -- which cost the same as equivalently configured business-class PCs -- are cheaper to support because they are easier to support. And when it comes to diverting IT resources toward competitive advantage, doesn't ease of support sound compelling?"

Of course the're easy to support. CS3 is a very well written program. 😛

 

[Shadow703793]

^ :lol: CS3 is not very well optimized. there is too much bloat code imo.

 

[LukeBird]

Your PC cost over 4 times then your mac? Did you buy it used? Or did you just flat out buy all the expensive PC parts out there?

Mac:

Book - $1099
Book Air - $1799
Book Pro - $1999
Mini - $599
iMac - $1199
Mac Pro - $2799

My system is under $1000 bucks, but over $1000 when I upgraded to my Q6600. And my XP Home version is basically an upgrade that I brought back in 2002-3 ($99). I brought the upgrade Vista 64 bit... Today ($122), to try out since I don't need a special chip to let me install it.

So I sounded like a toddler who didn't know why he didn't like it? Sounds more like, you wanted to say something to my post simply because I don't have a Mac and stated a reason(S) why.

But I guess theres nothing going on in the Mac forumz... And you have to defend your pride.. err.. purchase.

I bought my Mac used (it cost me £425 or $975ish) and spent a lot on my PC.
I picked on several of your comments (the rest I accept were perfect reasoning for not running it and I have nothing to say to those comments, because that's your decision) because they didn't have reasoning behind them. I don't go to Mac forums. I'm not a member of any and I don't regularly read them. Oh and I don't feel any reason to 'defend' my purchase. I don't live in a Communist country, so I have a choice, a choice of which I don't have to justify to anyone (least of all in my eyes an internet forum!). I was merely picking people up on their 'I hate Mac' comments. I am not a typical Mac owner, and I needn't be treated like one.

 

[LukeBird]

I just say Apple sucks cuz they can only advertise their computers by bad mouthing PCs. Now they use PC hardware so they bad mouth Vista. Why can't they do like their iPod commercials and not talk trash? I hate companies that talk trash about other companies in their advertisement. Its very unprofessional.

I have used Apple. I have used Unix/Linux. I don't prefer either and like PCs and Windows. Vista is a good OS and easy to use. Well for me. The only time that alert pops up for me is if I open a .rar or run a .exe. And that makes sense. If anything could just start to run or load on your PC you would be screwed.

Anywho. Apple can keep producing their commercials and stupid non PC literates can follow them like blind sheep and thats fine with me. It seems thats who they are targeting.

You didn't even imitate such an intelligent response in your first post.
I completely agree with your (and others) comments over the "Anti-PC" adverts. Can't stand them. Yes, I think it's valid that they make a comparison, but slagging them off isn't a valid piece of advertising in my eyes. The MacBook Air ad is how the rest of their adverts should be. Simple, to the point and catchy. Although as I've said, fortunately in the UK we don't get particularly hounded by the anti-PC ads (thankfully!).

 

[audiovoodoo]

I think the PC fan boyz are just pissed that they would have limited options for installing fancy lights, posting synthetic benchmarks and trying to extend their e-penis.

Lets get something clear folks. 95% of PC users do not play computer games. Most PC's run with integrated graphics. Most computers do not run Vista. If you want to talk about minorities then frankly most of the crew on Tom's fall into that camp. You are not representative of most PC users. Get over it.

And no I don't own a Mac. I'm just sick of threads like this.