Warhammer Battleboard - Painting Sand

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I have built a battleboard for Warhammer 40K that I have covered with sand
that I want to paint.

My plan is to come up with a dark gray look to the sand, but of course I do
not want it a uniform color.

I came across some Krylon spray paint called "Make It Stone" textured paint.
This particular paint is primarily black with lighter gray/white bits of
texture.

Does anyone have any experience using a textured paint on what is already a
textured surface like sand?

Thanks

Martin

 

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"Martin Stover" <martin@sirspeedy4043.com> wrote in message
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>I have built a battleboard for Warhammer 40K that I have covered with sand
> that I want to paint.
>
> My plan is to come up with a dark gray look to the sand, but of course I
> do
> not want it a uniform color.
>
> I came across some Krylon spray paint called "Make It Stone" textured
> paint.
> This particular paint is primarily black with lighter gray/white bits of
> texture.
>
> Does anyone have any experience using a textured paint on what is already
> a
> textured surface like sand?
>
> Thanks
>
> Martin
>
Go into a car shop, pick up 3 or 4 cans of grey in various shades and
lightly or heavily sweep them over the base colour, do it on a foot square
practice bit iff your worried.

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In article <RDxEd.8630$W34.3894@news.flashnewsgroups.com>, Martin
Stover, martin@sirspeedy4043.com Varfed out the following in Timo
speak...
> I have built a battleboard for Warhammer 40K that I have covered with sand
> that I want to paint.
>
> My plan is to come up with a dark gray look to the sand, but of course I do
> not want it a uniform color.
>
> I came across some Krylon spray paint called "Make It Stone" textured paint.
> This particular paint is primarily black with lighter gray/white bits of
> texture.
>
> Does anyone have any experience using a textured paint on what is already a
> textured surface like sand?

Hello Martin,

Well, I've worked with the Krylon 'stone' spray. It's not bad.
Personally I've never been a fan of the textured surface gaming boards
as invariably there are always some minis with poor balance, and the
textured surface means that they're constantly falling over from the
slightest bump of the gaming surface. That being said, you have a
variety of options.

I'm gathering that you've basically taken sand and PVA/White glue and
covered the surface of the board (and effectively sealed the foam or
wood at the same time.) That being the case, you can certainly use the
krylon stone spray over the sand surface even on foam as long as it's
completely sealed. The Krylon stone spray has a noticeable texture to
it - I used it on untextured gesso covered foam and it looks decent and
while it does have texture, it isn't so rough that it's hard to stand
minis up on it. That's option one - though it would be expensive at the
price of the spray stone to cover an entire gaming board in it.

Option two would be to buy some black spray paint/latex paint and base
coat your board in a flat black color - then buy various shades of light
to dark gray latex paint inexpensively at a DYI/Home Depot type of
store. (I've gotten great deals on large amounts of Latex paint for
terrain making when the stores were having sales.) Since you'll basicly
be drybrushing a really large surface you could use a two or even 3 inch
wide brush to rapidly dry-brush the surface of your board starting with
the dark shade and working to your lightest shade. By dry-brushing in a
mottled or patch manner and using smaller brushes for your lighter
colors, you can create unified surface look while having a fair amount
of color/value variation so that the surface isn't uniform, un-natural,
and boring looking.

If you really like the Krylon spray stone - option three would be to
start with option two and do your various dry-brushing layers, and then
when finished use the spray to create alternate 'stone' patches. The
stone spray texture will simply melt around / add on to the texture the
sand is already providing. If you're uncertain whether or not you'll
like the effect - make a test sample out of a small piece of foam or
wood covered with your sand & glue mix. Paint the sample as above, and
then try the spray on it before you do your main board and decide you
don't like the effect or there's some other problem.

I like the spray, but it does take a while to dry if you lay it on
thick, and I'd recommend using it in warmer weather (like 60 F or above)
and in a well ventilated area as the stuff chemically cures as far as I
can tell. I've used the bluish/gray granite stuff on several large
stone formations I've made - and it was a bit light in value for my
taste so I simply used a black wash of thinned black acrylic paint to
darken up the overall value and then went back again to darken and
detail the cracks between the boulders.

Hope that helps,

Myrmidon
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In article <RDxEd.8630$W34.3894@news.flashnewsgroups.com>, "Martin Stover"
<martin@sirspeedy4043.com> writes:

>I came across some Krylon spray paint called "Make It Stone" textured paint.
>This particular paint is primarily black with lighter gray/white bits of
>texture.

This paint will offer a more-or-less roughened surface
texture, but its main objective is to look like stone through
the intermittent vomiting up of bits of different color & size.

It's about the same effect you'd acheive through painting
a base color, glossing it, applying random dots of color,
gloss-coating again, more random dots of color, etc.
Eventually, you'd have what sort of looked like a mottled
stone surface (using the spray can, the bigger the surface,
the *better* (a very subjective word) the effect), sort of a
marble or granite effect, and if gloss (or glosscoated), a
highly polished bit of stone is more-or-less the look with
which you'll end up).

In my opinion, you'd do just as well to texture the
surface you want as you do normally (sand/sifted gravel/
cat litter/model RR ballast/etc.), let dry, then once your
*normal* drybrushing is done, drybrush again, but add a
small dollop of close but different colors to the original dry-
brush color to produce a subtle shift from color to color
across your surface. If for example you're going with a
base of gray, maybe set out a blob or two of light gray,
blue-gray to light blue, white, black, tan, mauve, etc., and
as you add paint to drybrush, randomly mix in a tiny bit
of different colors as you go. Whenever I paint a *dirt*
surface for example, I always do this with a mess o' dif-
ferent shades of brown (and most likely a little black and
reddish hues). Base paint, drybrush as normal with
successively lighter colors, and occasionally throw in
something a little off-kilter for an obviously *similar* yet
subtly different blended (as you'd see in nature) effect.
You also can add or subtract dark and lightened paint or
ink to your washes before drybrushing for yet another
similar (but different) effect.

Just because I never found a modeling use for that
paint doesn't mean you won't however; if you can spare
the cash, grab a can and experiment. You might come
up with the PERFECT use for it (which of course you'll
then share with all of us <G>).

Have fun!

Bubba Pearson
Manassas, VA

 

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> Just because I never found a modeling use for that
>paint doesn't mean you won't however; if you can spare
>the cash, grab a can and experiment. You might come
>up with the PERFECT use for it (which of course you'll
>then share with all of us <G>).

I've used it in small areas. Not for painting a board, but for painting a
bunker, a hill, or a crater. Does not add too much texture, but easier than
glue/sand. And if you need more, spray a second or third coat (once the
previous coat(s) are dry. As with anything else, takes a little practice to
figure out how much/little to spray, but not too difficult.

 

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I did go ahead and paint my entire 4 x 4 board with it. Yes, it is pricey,
but after trying it out on a small section, I really like the effect. It did
require a little practice to determine just the right amount to spray. You
are right that the paint does not add a lot of texture, but the effect on
top of the sand is to give the appearance of even more texture than actually
exists. And because of the nature of the paint, as you move around the board
and look at it from different angles the color appearance changes slightly.

Martin
"Bubba Pearson" <bubbap0956@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20050130163855.06291.00000002@mb-m16.aol.com...
> In article <RDxEd.8630$W34.3894@news.flashnewsgroups.com>, "Martin Stover"
> <> writes:
>
> >I came across some Krylon spray paint called "Make It Stone" textured
paint.
> >This particular paint is primarily black with lighter gray/white bits of
> >texture.
>
> This paint will offer a more-or-less roughened surface
> texture, but its main objective is to look like stone through
> the intermittent vomiting up of bits of different color & size.
>
> It's about the same effect you'd acheive through painting
> a base color, glossing it, applying random dots of color,
> gloss-coating again, more random dots of color, etc.
> Eventually, you'd have what sort of looked like a mottled
> stone surface (using the spray can, the bigger the surface,
> the *better* (a very subjective word) the effect), sort of a
> marble or granite effect, and if gloss (or glosscoated), a
> highly polished bit of stone is more-or-less the look with
> which you'll end up).
>
> In my opinion, you'd do just as well to texture the
> surface you want as you do normally (sand/sifted gravel/
> cat litter/model RR ballast/etc.), let dry, then once your
> *normal* drybrushing is done, drybrush again, but add a
> small dollop of close but different colors to the original dry-
> brush color to produce a subtle shift from color to color
> across your surface. If for example you're going with a
> base of gray, maybe set out a blob or two of light gray,
> blue-gray to light blue, white, black, tan, mauve, etc., and
> as you add paint to drybrush, randomly mix in a tiny bit
> of different colors as you go. Whenever I paint a *dirt*
> surface for example, I always do this with a mess o' dif-
> ferent shades of brown (and most likely a little black and
> reddish hues). Base paint, drybrush as normal with
> successively lighter colors, and occasionally throw in
> something a little off-kilter for an obviously *similar* yet
> subtly different blended (as you'd see in nature) effect.
> You also can add or subtract dark and lightened paint or
> ink to your washes before drybrushing for yet another
> similar (but different) effect.
>
> Just because I never found a modeling use for that
> paint doesn't mean you won't however; if you can spare
> the cash, grab a can and experiment. You might come
> up with the PERFECT use for it (which of course you'll
> then share with all of us <G>).
>
> Have fun!
>
> Bubba Pearson
> Manassas, VA
>

 

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In article <cm3Nd.8824$uc.3982@trnddc09>, "VIOLETTE LABARON"
<martinandanne@verizon.net> writes:

>I did go ahead and paint my entire 4 x 4 board with it. Yes, it is pricey,
>but after trying it out on a small section, I really like the effect. It did
>require a little practice to determine just the right amount to spray. You
>are right that the paint does not add a lot of texture, but the effect on
>top of the sand is to give the appearance of even more texture than actually
>exists. And because of the nature of the paint, as you move around the board
>and look at it from different angles the color appearance changes slightly.

I'm glad it worked out for you. I've bought some and
had fun basically ruining some old furniture with it (and
some other bits and pieces: it actually might look quite
good sprayed on the exterior of scale model homes,
bunkers, walls, concrete structures, etc., now that I've
given it another look).

In our finished basement, the previous owner (or the
builder/whomever) used it on a mess o' indirect lighting
fixtures around the main room, and they actually turned
out looking quite nice. The fireplace is stone (just rough
chunk granite or something -- big ol' blocks of gray-to-
whitish rock), and the lighting covers (with the flagstone
in front of the fireplace) look VERY good with everything
else. Someone must've swiped the idea from an interior
decorator or something -- 'looks too good just to've been
a good idea! 🙂 Anyway, I'm glad you started the topic:
now that I've given it another look, I think I may try it on
some small terrain pieces. One thing I have in mind is
to do the external walls of a *destroyed* building, then
weather 'em. Not only would it be easy (and look purdy
good), but it shouldn't be too expensive for those types
of projects. I might have to break out my change jar,
grab a bunch of quarters, and go buy a can or two. ;-)

See ya!

Bubba Pearson
Manassas, VA