Water Cooling Kit

DavisBLv

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Hi,


im looking to get water cooling kit for my PC, for my GPU and CPU or whatever you may suggest

i have never done anything like this before.

please give me suggestions, if i can get an already made kit that would be ideal.

as i really do not want to mess it up.

Case COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-4790k (4.0GHz) 8MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® Z97-P: ATX, LG1150, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs
Memory (RAM) 16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X BEAST DUAL-DDR3 2133MHz X.M.P (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 980 Ti - DVI, HDMI, 3 DP
1st Hard Disk 120GB KINGSTON HYPERX SAVAGE SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 560MB/sR | 360MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk 3TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 64MB CACHE
Power Supply CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO (120mm) Fan CPU Cooler

Many Thanks for all the suggestions

 
Solution
The HAF912 is gonna make it a bit tight.

The 980 Ti tops out at about 240 watts ... the 4790k at about 135 watts at big OCs... the pump itself can draw about 12-23 watts. Overclocking software could add an extra 10% to the GFX card assuming we talking about a reference design. ... 264 + 135 ~ 400 watts. About 60% of that load needs to be handled by the radiators...so 240 watts

You next decision then is do you want to be able to sit in the room w/o the noise from fans driving you to distraction. If I can hear them, then I'm not happy. You will want to limit fan speeds to about 1250 rpm .

If ya download the files here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator

We see that at 1250 rpm, we get about 61 watts...
The HAF912 is gonna make it a bit tight.

The 980 Ti tops out at about 240 watts ... the 4790k at about 135 watts at big OCs... the pump itself can draw about 12-23 watts. Overclocking software could add an extra 10% to the GFX card assuming we talking about a reference design. ... 264 + 135 ~ 400 watts. About 60% of that load needs to be handled by the radiators...so 240 watts

You next decision then is do you want to be able to sit in the room w/o the noise from fans driving you to distraction. If I can hear them, then I'm not happy. You will want to limit fan speeds to about 1250 rpm .

If ya download the files here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator

We see that at 1250 rpm, we get about 61 watts per 120mm of 45mm thick radiator ... which means to handle that load, you will need 4 x 120mm at 1250 rpm (245 watts). Push it up to 1800 rpm, and then you can get away with 360mm of radiator.

If ya go to 140mm, we see that a 420mm gives 257 watts at 150 rpm .... a 280mm will do 233 watts at 1800

My recommendation would therefore be the Swiftech H240 V2 which should deliver about 256 watts at a fan speed of 2000 rpm which is what it comes with. Its a great unit, a collection of custom loop components pre-assembled at the factory for just $150. It basically embarrasses any CLC type unit.

http://www.swiftech.com/h240x2.aspx
H240-X2-COLOR-PICS.jpg


You will need a full cover water block (EK recommended), some thermal paste, two G-1/4 fittings and some extra coolant to complete the install.



 
Solution
You can fit two 120mm all in one radiators in there. Corsair sells a bolt on kit so you can convert your GFX card to watercooled (it's extra for the watercooler). It is not, however, a task for an amateur.

There's plenty of 120mm watercooling options out there but they will only be on par with your 212 evo. Other computer cases would allow you to fit a bigger radiator.


My advice is to first get a higher wattage psu. The GFX card alone can draw over 350 watts if heavily overclocked on a hybrid AIO.

As for the cost of sorting everything so you can go watercooled: it's not worth it with your current hardware.

Jack is right with his response below.

 
You'd have to get a really pimped out card, something like a 980 Ti Lightning to get up to 350 watts, reference cards are about 275 watts OC'd. But 1 or 2 CLC type are woefully undersized for 400 - 500 watt combined CPU / GPU loads which will need the rads to handle 240 - 300 watts. The math doesn't work.... even at 2200 rpm, all copper 45mm thick radiators with 1.0 gpm pumps top out at about 135 watts but to get bthat level of thermal performance it makes sitting in the same room with the box uncomfortable. CLCs with less efficient aluminum rads and weak 0.11 gpm pumps will struggle and leave you listening to this...

https://youtu.be/cTf0Vq1j4Ec

At 55% CPU load, I gotta leave the room....and that's with no GPU in the loop.

Generally, the reason folks go to water cooling is to a) improve temps and b) reduce noise ... CLCs are not capable of accomplishing either of these goals. And with GFX cards, they cool only the GPU and not the memory / VRMs.... and we all saw what happened to EVGAs 1070s / 1080s when they tried that

https://www.eteknix.com/evga-gtx-10701080-gpus-catching-fire-due-to-vrms-overheating/

To really get an idea of CLCs weakness, you can compare the H100i at max speed (2700 rpm) with the Swiftech all copper rad / 1.0 gpm pump solution at the 24:35 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKdKVxbnp8&t=1403s

The Swiftech at min speed (850 rpm) beats the H100i at max speed (2700 rpm) by 4C. At that speed, the Swiftech is as quiet as the Noctua NH-D15 (33 dbA) while the H100i 2 x 120mm solution is just under being 12 times as load.




 
kit's always suck. at least in terms of choice, looks and price.
there is no problem to make a shopping list with/for you. this way you endup with better parts for less money.
the most important question, is how much money you want to spend on this project ?

P.S.
I'd not recommend to cool the GPU ATM. simply because you probably going to upgrade it soon enough. Most chances, that the water block will not fit the next card - it's 120-160$.
 
I have no problem with the Swiftech AIOs ... I had no problem with any of the individual components when used to make custom loops... superb pump, excellent radiator, very good block ... perhaps not EKs equal on the block but one of the better ones. Aesthetics wise, I have not seen anything bettwr in its price range. We are seeing a lot of build requests using the Swiftech AIOs and the MSI Seahawk EK X

I agree tho ... if i was going to invest in that build, I'd sell the 980 Ti and get a 1080 Ti Seahawk EK X

https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-SEA-HAWK-EK-X.html#hero-overview