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> Then you follow up with:
> CompUSA will take retrns, they just don't give you all your money back.
>
> Jeff B
>

Even an imbicle such as you knows that a return doesn't "count"
unless a refund is given. Shouldn't need to explain that
to you.

Jeff B
 
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If the item is unopened you also get ALL of your money back. To be honest if
my x800XT was bad I'd want it replaced not my money back anyway. A person
doesnt spend $450 dollars and just change mind. You go live in your
imagination and I'll just plop you in my ignore list that way you can spout
all the BS double talk wheenywhining you want. Maybe someone else will think
your important enough to read hehe.

Simple truth is you probably cant even afford the card that this post was
about. I posted this just to let those who COULD afford and did order from
CUSA that they were shipping. No one asked your sorry ass to even reply
especially since you had nothing of value to add on the topic. Pls note the
title was " WEEEE! Compusa shipping first 150 0rders for x800XTPE" not "What
do you think of CompUSA" os "Should I buy from CompUSA". The message was
for ppl who already had bought from them you momo so your opinion on the
matter is worthless ignorant and a waste of electrons.

Now be a good little troll and do the world a favor, go play in traffic.
 
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"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:17 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:
>
> >
> >"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:20:49 -0600, "Bratboy"
> >> <jmcguay@Takeallthisaway.tde.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >An open box fee equal to 15% of the purchase price will be charged on
any
> >> >opened item, unless the item is defective and exchanged for the exact
> >same
> >> >item (fee not applicable in Hawaii). The 15% open box fee will be
> >assessed
> >> >at the time of refund or exchange.
> >>
> >> This is enough to make me not shop there.
> >
> >I've returned plenty of stuff to Compusa, never been charged a dime.
>
> Did you open the box ?
> >
>
Yep.
 
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Bratboy...

I didn't mean to rain on your parade. I now see the
spirit in which you posted, and I'm sorry if I caused bad feelings.
I'm truly sorry for not thinking before I started typing.

Jeff B
 
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:58:43 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:

>
>"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:uqs2d0ditko61r80d3i572qju406vrpuf7@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:17 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >news:las0d0t795edhcunqi2da3bb11vu0kt689@4ax.com...
>> >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:20:49 -0600, "Bratboy"
>> >> <jmcguay@Takeallthisaway.tde.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >An open box fee equal to 15% of the purchase price will be charged on
>any
>> >> >opened item, unless the item is defective and exchanged for the exact
>> >same
>> >> >item (fee not applicable in Hawaii). The 15% open box fee will be
>> >assessed
>> >> >at the time of refund or exchange.
>> >>
>> >> This is enough to make me not shop there.
>> >
>> >I've returned plenty of stuff to Compusa, never been charged a dime.
>>
>> Did you open the box ?
>> >
>>
>Yep.
>
Did you lie about the product you were returning?
I'm asking because their policy plainly states they charge 15%
restocking. I know you can get around these policies by lying without
too much trouble, but that's to much trouble for me.

CC used to have the same policy and I never shopped there either until
they changed it. It was easier to go to BB and return without hassle
if there was a problem.

Seem like a15% restocking fee is a little stupid when all your
competitors don't do it.
 
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Well, the 15% restock came about, as I understand it, to prevent /cut down
on frivolus returns. If you have ever bought something from BB, CC or CUSA
and opened it at home to discover someone else had returned it so its not
really BRAND NEW for you then you might understand it more.

Returns for defects they can just ship back. They lose nothing and neither
do you. But, in the case of returning something that isnt broken just
because you changed your mind or found cheaper they can. First off one can
usually tell a "Returned" item because the shrinkwrap isnt right so that one
sits on shelf till god knows when because everyone steers away from that
box. I always try to really inspect items I buy instore just to make sure it
hasnt been returned and put back out. If its the I found it cheaper issue
most stores do pricematch after purchase for a certain amount of time. Many
have gone to lower price in 15 days but some still say within 30 days. This
is another way the stores try to cut down on return losses that ppl can take
advantage of.

Thats also why sometimes ppl get screwed at BB. I know I saw reports with
the 9800 release of ppl going to a BB buying a card getting home and finding
out that someone else had returned it and stuck an older junk card like a
gf2 in the box. Obviously they told the clerk it was fine just didnt like or
that box would of been shipped out not put back on shelf. THATS what happens
when you have unlimited restriction on returns. Most stores really don't
force the fee anyway. I personally think its a discretionary thing the
clerks have handy there just to discourage ppl from doing it for silly
reasons like some did. For example I KNOW ppl who bought the x8000pro with
the intent from the start that once bb had the XTPE's they were returning
the pro and exchanging it. They just didnt want to wait for the card they
actually wanted & didnt give a fig about how they would feel if THEY bought
a new card only to find out someone else was already using it. That sort of
stuff screws everyone else and is why companies have to even consider fee's.
I'd imagine the treat of a fee at least discourages this some.

Like I said in another post if the reason your returning something is that
it doesnt work as promised or turns out to be incompatible and you explain
that to the the returns person you most likely wouldnt be charged as its a
bit diff than a "Oh I just changed my mind & your store should eat the
cost" type persons return. I'll be honest in that for over 15yrs now Ive
been dinking with computers and not once in all this time have I ever bought
from CUSA, BB, or CC and had to return something where I didn't get 100%
refund without lieing(actually buy so little from CC it never came up with
them) & so thats what I base my opinon on my experiences.

Just Jess

"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:58:43 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:
>
> Seem like a15% restocking fee is a little stupid when all your
> competitors don't do it.
>
 
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Bratboy. I need some advice...

I bought an Apple Cinema monitor. Compatibility of PC graphics cards
is on a card-by-card basis....some work, some don't.
THere is a 50-50 chance that whatever card I
buy won't work AT ALL.
I'm considering an
nvidia 6800U when they come out to drive this monitor.
If I buy the card from CUSA, I face a 15% restocking fee
if it doesn't work. If I buy from BB, I just return it
no questions asked, get a full refund. So where should I buy
that $500 card?

The vast majority of returns to BB and CC are "legitimate".
Only a tiny percent of the ppl would deliberately buy something
with the absolute certainy that they will be returning it.
On-line vendors are good in that they are almost always cheaper
than physical stores such as bb,cc. But it's risky because they don't
give a full refund
for returns. BB and CC are good in that they give a full refund,
but their stuff costs more money than on-line.. With CompUSA,
you get the worst of all worlds....the risk of a "no full refund"
policy, *and* higher prices.
I have nothing against CompUSA, I just don't believe in rewarding
them for their anti-consumer policy.

Jeff B
 
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In article <40d2eb55$1@tde03.tde.com>, "Bratboy" <jmcguay@Takeallthisaway.tde.com> wrote:
>Well, the 15% restock came about, as I understand it, to prevent /cut down
>on frivolus returns. If you have ever bought something from BB, CC or CUSA
>and opened it at home to discover someone else had returned it so its not
>really BRAND NEW for you then you might understand it more.
>

In most states, selling a returned item as new is illegal.


>Returns for defects they can just ship back. They lose nothing and neither
>do you. But, in the case of returning something that isnt broken just
>because you changed your mind or found cheaper they can. First off one can
>usually tell a "Returned" item because the shrinkwrap isnt right so that one
>sits on shelf till god knows when because everyone steers away from that
>box. I always try to really inspect items I buy instore just to make sure it
>hasnt been returned and put back out. If its the I found it cheaper issue
>most stores do pricematch after purchase for a certain amount of time. Many
>have gone to lower price in 15 days but some still say within 30 days. This
>is another way the stores try to cut down on return losses that ppl can take
>advantage of.
>
>Thats also why sometimes ppl get screwed at BB. I know I saw reports with
>the 9800 release of ppl going to a BB buying a card getting home and finding
>out that someone else had returned it and stuck an older junk card like a
>gf2 in the box. Obviously they told the clerk it was fine just didnt like or
>that box would of been shipped out not put back on shelf. THATS what happens
>when you have unlimited restriction on returns. Most stores really don't
>force the fee anyway. I personally think its a discretionary thing the
>clerks have handy there just to discourage ppl from doing it for silly
>reasons like some did. For example I KNOW ppl who bought the x8000pro with
>the intent from the start that once bb had the XTPE's they were returning
>the pro and exchanging it. They just didnt want to wait for the card they
>actually wanted & didnt give a fig about how they would feel if THEY bought
>a new card only to find out someone else was already using it. That sort of
>stuff screws everyone else and is why companies have to even consider fee's.
>I'd imagine the treat of a fee at least discourages this some.
>
>Like I said in another post if the reason your returning something is that
>it doesnt work as promised or turns out to be incompatible and you explain
>that to the the returns person you most likely wouldnt be charged as its a
>bit diff than a "Oh I just changed my mind & your store should eat the
>cost" type persons return. I'll be honest in that for over 15yrs now Ive
>been dinking with computers and not once in all this time have I ever bought
>from CUSA, BB, or CC and had to return something where I didn't get 100%
>refund without lieing(actually buy so little from CC it never came up with
>them) & so thats what I base my opinon on my experiences.
>
>Just Jess
>
>"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:58:43 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:
>>
>> Seem like a15% restocking fee is a little stupid when all your
>> competitors don't do it.
>>
>
>
 
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"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:58:43 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:
>
> >
> >"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:uqs2d0ditko61r80d3i572qju406vrpuf7@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 02:05:17 GMT, "Kill Bill" <a@b.c> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:las0d0t795edhcunqi2da3bb11vu0kt689@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:20:49 -0600, "Bratboy"
> >> >> <jmcguay@Takeallthisaway.tde.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >An open box fee equal to 15% of the purchase price will be charged
on
> >any
> >> >> >opened item, unless the item is defective and exchanged for the
exact
> >> >same
> >> >> >item (fee not applicable in Hawaii). The 15% open box fee will be
> >> >assessed
> >> >> >at the time of refund or exchange.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is enough to make me not shop there.
> >> >
> >> >I've returned plenty of stuff to Compusa, never been charged a dime.
> >>
> >> Did you open the box ?
> >> >
> >>
> >Yep.
> >
> Did you lie about the product you were returning?
> I'm asking because their policy plainly states they charge 15%
> restocking. I know you can get around these policies by lying without
> too much trouble, but that's to much trouble for me.
>
> CC used to have the same policy and I never shopped there either until
> they changed it. It was easier to go to BB and return without hassle
> if there was a problem.
>
> Seem like a15% restocking fee is a little stupid when all your
> competitors don't do it.
>
I flew all the way to Hawaii to return it, then flew back home. :) No
really, maybe it's "because" their competitors don't usually charge a fee
that they will waive it. Competition is fierce. It was kind of hard to
lie, it was some flash memory in plastic pack. I bought the wrong kind.
Sort of.

I love CC though, buy online, go down and pick it up whenever. Lots of
rebates and they're fast with them too.
 
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"jeff b" <fakeaddy@fjyfj.com> wrote in message
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> The vast majority of returns to BB and CC are "legitimate".
> Only a tiny percent of the ppl would deliberately buy something
> with the absolute certainy that they will be returning it.
> On-line vendors are good in that they are almost always cheaper
> than physical stores such as bb,cc. But it's risky because they don't
> give a full refund
> for returns. BB and CC are good in that they give a full refund,
> but their stuff costs more money than on-line.. With CompUSA,
> you get the worst of all worlds....the risk of a "no full refund"
> policy, *and* higher prices.
> I have nothing against CompUSA, I just don't believe in rewarding
> them for their anti-consumer policy.
>
> Jeff B
>
You're so full of misinformation it's becoming laughable....check that.
Already there.
 
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:17:12 -0600, "Bratboy"
<jmcguay@Takeallthisaway.tde.com> wrote:

>Thats also why sometimes ppl get screwed at BB. I know I saw reports with
>the 9800 release of ppl going to a BB buying a card getting home and finding
>out that someone else had returned it and stuck an older junk card like a
>gf2 in the box.

Happened to me!
 
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Okay Jeff no this is the limit of how far I'm gonna go with this. I just got
off the phone with Frank from the CUSA here in Denver at 303-650-8887 and
asked him your question, exactly as you said it. His response is normally
they don't charge it unless you mangle the up the box type deal. He said to
just tell you don't mangle up the box and if you return it its no problem
and no fee. I was a bit decptive because he was under the impression you
were here in denver and I was sending you there, not that it was
hypothetical. Figured that way I would get honest local answer.

Anyway Im done with this now. I've got a car to play with:
Default Clocks x800XT PE
3dmark03 11,732 (default bench)
Aquamark 57,575



"jeff b" <fakeaddy@fjyfj.com> wrote in message
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> Bratboy. I need some advice...
>
> I bought an Apple Cinema monitor. Compatibility of PC graphics cards
> is on a card-by-card basis....some work, some don't.
> THere is a 50-50 chance that whatever card I
> buy won't work AT ALL.
> I'm considering an
> nvidia 6800U when they come out to drive this monitor.
> If I buy the card from CUSA, I face a 15% restocking fee
> if it doesn't work. If I buy from BB, I just return it
> no questions asked, get a full refund. So where should I buy
> that $500 card?
>
> The vast majority of returns to BB and CC are "legitimate".
> Only a tiny percent of the ppl would deliberately buy something
> with the absolute certainy that they will be returning it.
> On-line vendors are good in that they are almost always cheaper
> than physical stores such as bb,cc. But it's risky because they don't
> give a full refund
> for returns. BB and CC are good in that they give a full refund,
> but their stuff costs more money than on-line.. With CompUSA,
> you get the worst of all worlds....the risk of a "no full refund"
> policy, *and* higher prices.
> I have nothing against CompUSA, I just don't believe in rewarding
> them for their anti-consumer policy.
>
> Jeff B
>
 
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bp wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:17:12 -0600, "Bratboy"
> <jmcguay@Takeallthisaway.tde.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Thats also why sometimes ppl get screwed at BB.

So???

I know I saw reports with
>>the 9800 release of ppl going to a BB buying a card getting home and finding
>>out that someone else had returned it and stuck an older junk card like a
>>gf2 in the box.

What's your point?


>
>
> Happened to me!
>

What does this have to do with the thread? We're
talking about CompUSA return policy, not BB.

Jeff B
 
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Bratboy wrote:

> Okay Jeff no this is the limit of how far I'm gonna go with this. I just got
> off the phone with Frank from the CUSA here in Denver at 303-650-8887 and
> asked him your question, exactly as you said it. His response is normally
> they don't charge it unless you mangle the up the box type deal. He said to
> just tell you don't mangle up the box and if you return it its no problem
> and no fee. I was a bit decptive because he was under the impression you
> were here in denver and I was sending you there, not that it was
> hypothetical. Figured that way I would get honest local answer.

There has never been any question about whether or not a local
manager can go against CompUSA nationwide policy.
The question in this thread is "what is CompUSA policy"? The policy is
15% restocking fee for not defective returns. BB and CC
policy is 0% restocking fee. Point is, you will be charged
the fee at CompUSA by default. To avoid it, you have to kiss
ass and beg the manager to waive it. Maybe he will,
maybe he won't, he has financial incentive to not waive the fee.
If I have the choice of BB or CompUSA,
of course I'll go with BB.

>
> Anyway Im done with this now. I've got a car to play with:
> Default Clocks x800XT PE
> 3dmark03 11,732 (default bench)
> Aquamark 57,575

This is quite excellent, what is the rest of your system?
What is the max core/mem clock you've achieved? Have you tried
Far Cry? I played that on my x800pro, it was laggy as hell. Of course
that was
at 1920x1200 res, at 1280x720 it played fantastic.
Congrats on bagging that x800xt! I'll be getting one for myself
as soon as they are available.

Jeff B

PS...I talked to the CompUSA store manager in Boulder about the
nvidia 6800u and x800xt. He assured me that he can go against
store policy and he will waive the 15% if I return either of
those cards. Of course the store doesn't have either, and may not
for sometime.
 
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To be honest I simply asked and was told the main reason on box fee as in
event you tried to return something in such bad shape they cant repackage.
Thats when I was told normally, if the box in good shape/all parts present
etc, they don't charge the fee so go figure.

As for the benches thats on my new p4 3.2 HT, Asus P4C800-E dlx MB, 1 gig
Mushkin 3200 Special (2-2-2) Seagate 160g SATA non raid, WDC120 ATA with
Rockethead100 ATA-SATA converterand x800xtpe with nothing overclocked at all
and Overdrive turned off as well. Temps of the vidcard range from regular
idle of 47 and the highest Ive seen the temp go was 70 and that was after
letting ruby run in a loop for around 30 minutes. Highest CPU temp hits 49
idles at around 34 with MB temp of 29. All in all am happy with the way I
put this one together hehe.


"jeff b" <fakeaddy@fjyfj.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Anyway Im done with this now. I've got a car to play with:
>> Default Clocks x800XT PE
>> 3dmark03 11,732 (default bench)
>> Aquamark 57,575
>
> This is quite excellent, what is the rest of your system?
> What is the max core/mem clock you've achieved? Have you tried
> Far Cry? I played that on my x800pro, it was laggy as hell. Of course
> that was
> at 1920x1200 res, at 1280x720 it played fantastic.
> Congrats on bagging that x800xt! I'll be getting one for myself
> as soon as they are available.
>
> Jeff B
>
> PS...I talked to the CompUSA store manager in Boulder about the
> nvidia 6800u and x800xt. He assured me that he can go against
> store policy and he will waive the 15% if I return either of
> those cards. Of course the store doesn't have either, and may not
> for sometime.
>
>
 
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> As for the benches thats on my new p4 3.2 HT, Asus P4C800-E dlx MB, 1 gig
> Mushkin 3200 Special (2-2-2) Seagate 160g SATA non raid, WDC120 ATA with
> Rockethead100 ATA-SATA converterand x800xtpe with nothing overclocked at all
> and Overdrive turned off as well. Temps of the vidcard range from regular
> idle of 47 and the highest Ive seen the temp go was 70 and that was after
> letting ruby run in a loop for around 30 minutes. Highest CPU temp hits 49
> idles at around 34 with MB temp of 29. All in all am happy with the way I
> put this one together hehe.

That's a pretty strong system. Of course with games like
Far Cry, you need a strong system.

How does it feel in games, subjectively?

Jeff B
 
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heheheheheheheheheeheh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wowwwwwwwwwww need I say more
<wink>
Since my monitor is a 20 inch lcd from dell 1600 is its native rez and this
card pumps it out just great.

"jeff b" <fakeaddy@fjyfj.com> wrote in message
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>
>> As for the benches thats on my new p4 3.2 HT, Asus P4C800-E dlx MB, 1 gig
>> Mushkin 3200 Special (2-2-2) Seagate 160g SATA non raid, WDC120 ATA with
>> Rockethead100 ATA-SATA converterand x800xtpe with nothing overclocked at
>> all and Overdrive turned off as well. Temps of the vidcard range from
>> regular idle of 47 and the highest Ive seen the temp go was 70 and that
>> was after letting ruby run in a loop for around 30 minutes. Highest CPU
>> temp hits 49 idles at around 34 with MB temp of 29. All in all am happy
>> with the way I put this one together hehe.
>
> That's a pretty strong system. Of course with games like
> Far Cry, you need a strong system.
>
> How does it feel in games, subjectively?
>
> Jeff B
>
>
 
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Bratboy wrote:
> heheheheheheheheheeheh ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wowwwwwwwwwww need I say more
> <wink>
> Since my monitor is a 20 inch lcd from dell 1600 is its native rez and this
> card pumps it out just great.

Man, that's one hell of a monitor. I have an
Apple LCD with similar res....needs one strong card
to process all those pixels, no wonder you went
for the x800xt.

As soon as they're available, I'm going for the
xt too.

BTW, have you seen the 3dc maps/technology that have been shown on
the various sites? That's the main reason that this time around,
I chose ATI over nvidia. And Half life 2 is 3dc! sweet!

Jeff B