[SOLVED] Welcome screen taking long time

jinchuriki

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Hi, I yesterday got a new Samsung EVO 970(500GB) and I installed my windows 10 OS on it, I started installing my usual stuff - steam, CSGO, CS 1.6, faceit anti cheat, chrome and other similar programs.
I then noticed that the welcome screen now takes around 15-30 seconds to load while before that the complete boot process took roughly 10-15 seconds.

I tried disabling all the non microsoft services and also disabled all the startup programs, but that didn't help. I'm wondering what could possibly cause this. I tried to install windows again(not instead of the current one) and it worked just as fast as it should, so I suspect the issue is software related, but not sure what. I could reinstall the OS but I suspect it will happen again and I don't really have the power to reinstall everything after working on it for quite long.

Any suggestions maybe? It's not really that big of a deal, just kinda annoying...

PC Specs:
Ryzen 2700x
16x2GB RAM
ASrock X570 Phantom Gaming 4
GTX 770 4GB

Windows 10 Pro 2004 build 19041.630

Thanks.
 
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Solution
====== Slow one at a time installs =========

What happens all too often is someone decides to make a change to their system: perhaps new software, an update, configuration change of some sort (sometimes with or without a specific reason for doing so).

So a bunch of things get changed and the next boot fails or immediately BSODs. But so much was changed it is difficult to know and even figure out what change caused the problem.

May not be so bad if the system can boot into Safe Mode and an error code found that points to a specific culprit. Or there is a full system image available to just roll back to the last known working configuration.

I tend to be very conservative so "how much change at a time" is a subjective call...
Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

What capacity is that new EVO 970 - how full is it?

Actually it may be a bit of a big deal. Key is to identify what is causing the delay. Apparently not fatal per se because Windows does eventually boot - correct.

Start by going into BIOS and make the POST progress reporting to be as verbose as possible and to provide you as much time as possible to read and respond to the reported information.

Another line of thought.....

Once you install Windows 10 there it is very likely that a lot of updating will be needed. Those delays may be Windows (and perhaps installed apps, etc.) trying to "phone home", update, backup, etc..

Slow down a bit with respect to the re-installs. Especially non-Windows.

Let Windows get to the status that "Windows is up-to-date". Then do other re-installs one by one.

Allow some time between re-installs so if something really goes astray you may be able to attribute the problem to the last reinstall or other related activity.
 
Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

What capacity is that new EVO 970 - how full is it?

Actually it may be a bit of a big deal. Key is to identify what is causing the delay. Apparently not fatal per se because Windows does eventually boot - correct.

Start by going into BIOS and make the POST progress reporting to be as verbose as possible and to provide you as much time as possible to read and respond to the reported information.

Another line of thought.....

Once you install Windows 10 there it is very likely that a lot of updating will be needed. Those delays may be Windows (and perhaps installed apps, etc.) trying to "phone home", update, backup, etc..

Slow down a bit with respect to the re-installs. Especially non-Windows.

Let Windows get to the status that "Windows is up-to-date". Then do other re-installs one by one.

Allow some time between re-installs so if something really goes astray you may be able to attribute the problem to the last reinstall or other related activity.

Ryzen 2700x
16x2GB RAM
ASrock X570 Phantom Gaming 4
GTX 770 4GB

Windows 10 Pro 2004 build 19041.630

The EVO 970 is 500GB(465GB available), only around 20% is used.

The windows boots fine, I don't think there are any issues on that part, it just takes long and I don't know why, and I think it's weird cause after the OS installation it was booting in like 10-12 from shutdown to start.

I'm not familiar at all with POST progress reporting(didn't know it exists), I'll try to search for it.

I already installed all my windows update and there are no further windows update to install, so I don't think that should be it. I'm pretty sure I deleted phone home.

So you say I should try to reinstall and then install things slowly one by one to figure what's the cause for that?

Thanks.

task manger have a startup tab that show startup imact

Are you referring to this?
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Update:
I started removing apps one by one, the issue should be caused by one of the following apps:
bittorrent
faceit ac
ubuntu 20.04 lts

I guess it's pretty much solved then, thanks for the help :)
 
====== Slow one at a time installs =========

What happens all too often is someone decides to make a change to their system: perhaps new software, an update, configuration change of some sort (sometimes with or without a specific reason for doing so).

So a bunch of things get changed and the next boot fails or immediately BSODs. But so much was changed it is difficult to know and even figure out what change caused the problem.

May not be so bad if the system can boot into Safe Mode and an error code found that points to a specific culprit. Or there is a full system image available to just roll back to the last known working configuration.

I tend to be very conservative so "how much change at a time" is a subjective call.....

==== Task Manager ========

Disabled startups are not an issue. Enabled startups, especially if not identifiable, could be an underlying problem.

And I am paying more attention to Task Scheduler as well. Lots of things seeming to get triggered therein....


=========POST Reporting =========

Reference (ensure that I correctly matched your motherboard):

https://download.asrock.com/Manual/X570 Phantom Gaming 4.pdf

See Section 4.8, physically numbered Page 81.

More reporting etc. will add boot time. However, to me that is a reasonable trade-off to help track down or otherwise identify some problem.

Once the problem is resolved then restoring Fast Boot etc. is easily done.
 
Solution
====== Slow one at a time installs =========

What happens all too often is someone decides to make a change to their system: perhaps new software, an update, configuration change of some sort (sometimes with or without a specific reason for doing so).

So a bunch of things get changed and the next boot fails or immediately BSODs. But so much was changed it is difficult to know and even figure out what change caused the problem.

May not be so bad if the system can boot into Safe Mode and an error code found that points to a specific culprit. Or there is a full system image available to just roll back to the last known working configuration.

I tend to be very conservative so "how much change at a time" is a subjective call.....

==== Task Manager ========

Disabled startups are not an issue. Enabled startups, especially if not identifiable, could be an underlying problem.

And I am paying more attention to Task Scheduler as well. Lots of things seeming to get triggered therein....


=========POST Reporting =========

Reference (ensure that I correctly matched your motherboard):

https://download.asrock.com/Manual/X570 Phantom Gaming 4.pdf

See Section 4.8, physically numbered Page 81.

More reporting etc. will add boot time. However, to me that is a reasonable trade-off to help track down or otherwise identify some problem.

Once the problem is resolved then restoring Fast Boot etc. is easily done.

Thanks and sorry that you had to write down all of this, but as I stated above it seems like I got it resolved already, I reinstalled bittorrent and faceit anti cheat, so I'm now trying to reinstall ubuntu 20.04 LTS to make sure it's actually the issue.

Final verdict - reinstalled ubuntu 20.04 LTS - welcome screen takes 15-30 seconds again.
Well, good thing I know the root cause of the issue :)