well im planning to buy tp link archer c7, i got some questions

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hello guys i have a wifi issue in my home. well my dad didnt allow me to loop cat 5 wire from living room to my room because he dont wanna drill the walls etc. he also said cable on the wall will look bad.

anyway then we agreed about buying a new router which have 5ghz wifi.
if you ask why i dont use 2,4ghz. we got 20 wifi running in our apartment and all have automatic channel option. so you have 11 channel and 20 wifi at auto option = signal is overlapping.

channel map:
http://store.donanimhaber.com/21/95/92/219592D0F1366A6256A7BE153F19A67E.jpg

connection quality:
http://store.donanimhaber.com/04/d5/3d/04D53DDE04E7C58363D738EEA713B8EB.jpg

well i got an 22dbi atenna and my room is 7-10 meters away from the router. even with %100 signal quality i got timed outs also high ping between my destop and router.

wifi ping:
http://store.donanimhaber.com/c3/04/0d/C3040D59D4399E74BD1B68EF669E7E62.jpg

(these test's run at 2,4 ghz my router at the moment didnt support 5ghz)

how is the 5ghz performance for gaming? did it fix my overlap/ping issue?
 
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It may fix your channel limitations, but you don't know how many of those 20 WIFI devices are also dual band. The 5Ghz signal also doesn't penetrate walls as well as 2.4Ghz. You may not have any better signal than you do today.

Also, buying a dual band router won't change anything unless you ALSO have a dual band NIC card in your computer.
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It may fix your channel limitations, but you don't know how many of those 20 WIFI devices are also dual band. The 5Ghz signal also doesn't penetrate walls as well as 2.4Ghz. You may not have any better signal than you do today.

Also, buying a dual band router won't change anything unless you ALSO have a dual band NIC card in your computer.
 
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well they using ISS modem's and i dont think any of them has that kind of thing.also that things are bit expensive here so people think expsensive router's are useless
i dont know about 5ghz range but 7 meters must be nothing.

about adapter yea i know. i will get one.
 
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PowerLine network adapters are probably a better solution in a crowded RF (WIFI) environment. They will be more consistent in most cases.
 
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its price is nearly same with an brand new router, they cant guarantee stability of that. also i have a huawei hg253s router. which is a trash. (given by iss)

so in long run new router is a better solution.
 
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well im living in turkey. and we have alot of taxes for electronic devices here.
c7 archer will cost me like 270 TL
that powerline kit will cost me like 190-200 TL
TL = Turkish Lira

and i dont know about our house's electrical cable system. is it new or old? will it a problem or not?
 
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802.11ac has pretty much killed even the 5g bands. Back in the day when people used 20mhz or maybe 40mhz there were lots of channels.

For most countries there are only 9 20mhz channels you can use in 5g. 802.11ac uses 4 of these to get 80mhz. Now they have the fancy routers that have 2 802.11ac radios in them so 1 person can use 8 of the 9 total channels.

Even worse in many countries you are not allowed to use the second block of 5 channels so there are only 4 channels and 1 802.11ac router will use them all.

There are some other channels but most routers do not support them because they are subject having to detect weather radar and turn themselves off. They have decided to just not deal with the problem and do not even give you the option to select those channels.

Wireless is getting more and more unusable, used to be you did wardriving to find wireless now you drive around and are surprised when you find a area that you can not see wireless.
 
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It shouldn't be a problem if you use that powerline kit.
 
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guys i understand its pratical, bit cheaper. but if i get router all devices in my home will get better internet + wifi performance.
also in long run its much more brilliant to get a better router.

did anyone gaming with 5ghz wifi?
 
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Do you even know if 5g works well in your house. You get much less range in most houses, 5g is much more easily blocked by walls.

You should never run games on wireless. It is always subject to random interference. Games are extremely susceptible to any type of delays or loss and wireless tends to have much more than a wired connection. It can be as simple as someone walking through a room changes that radio patterns and you get a lag spike in your game.

Many people play games on wireless but they just accept the fact that it will work good only "most" the time.
 
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yea walls are concrete well since more than 3 guy adviced me powerline adapters i wanna ask you guys few questions about it then.
did building age matter?
will machines like air condition, laundry machine effect connection quality because of voltage?
can i get ping readings similar to cat 5?

also how i can find turkish input tp link av500 (with eletric slot) in amazon or ebay? its all for US inputs there.
 
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You will get nowhere close to ethernet. You likely get between 50-80mbit.

The key factor is the distance the wire goes in the house. The best is on the same circuit breaker but it generally works across them ok.

Anything with motors can affect it, vacuum cleaner and hair dryer tend to be the worst.

I am going to bet you can use the tplink devices used in the EU. From what I can tell both turkey and EU countries use type C plugs at 230v/50mhz
 
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if that things effect my internet then whats the point to use it?
we got 3 air cooler in our house. i cant imagine my internet at summer
 
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All you can do is try it unfortunately. Most times it works fine. I had a ceiling fan in my rental house that would block powerline in the whole house and it is a huge house. It only did it when you set it on medium speed. Eventually the fan failed and I replaced it with a identical model and that one causes no issues at all.

The recommended advice is you buy them from someplace that accepts returns if they don't work. Still it is not a huge concern they work very well in most houses otherwise you would see huge numbers of negative reviews.
 
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well i will give it a go. right now working on to get an discount 😀

 
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I disagree with suggestions that powerline adapter is the solution. Looking at real life tests of powerline adapters, they often struggle to deliver even 100Mbits of throughput.

On the other hand, 5GHz is perfect for an apartment setting. First of all, there are eight non-overlapping 5GHz channels that are 20MHz wide, four that are 40MHz wide, and two that are 80MHz wide. Even if your neighborhood's 5GHz band was congested (which I doubt), there are lots of spare channels that you can try. Moreover, the 5GHz signal dies out very quickly when it needs to cross too many walls. Often, past two or three walls, your real life transfer rates on 5GHz band will go below those of 2.4GHz wireless-n, which is great for an apartment setting. This means that 5GHz will deliver decent coverage within an apartment, but hopefully your neighbors' 5GHz WLAN will not interfere with you too much because of signal's poor penetration through the walls. So personally, I'd recommend to try the C7 router, or if you have more cash the newer C8 model (the C8 is an all around new hardware design with better processors, better USB speeds, support for beamforming, etc). In an apartment setting, I'd also try to run wire to at least some of the key machines. Snake the wire around doorway arcs and so on to connect at least your main gaming PC directly to the router.
 
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But 5GHz signal doesn't travel as far, so the interference may not be too bad. I believe FCC regulates the power of the 5G transmitters, so you can't just blast the neighborhood with a powerful transmitter, like for example AT&T's routers do in the 2.4GHz band.
 
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