Discussion what are the most shocking (in a good or bad way) GPU launches or first impressions you have ever seen?

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i will say that biostar did release that particular model in uk and it did sell quite well

Well, I'm glad. As I said, I was speculating, tryin

as for asrock/gigabyte have tried with more intel onboards. they did a few apus but they where mainly based on Beema.

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

biostar have been in and out of the market in uk and Denmark.

It has been the same here in Canada. I actually just sold a PC that I made of parts I had lying around for $800CAD and the motherboard was a Biostar A320MH that I got on clearance at Canada Computers for $40CAD. The board works beautifully and I had no doubts about it because my first build back in 1988 had a Biostar Baby-AT motherboard.

i doubt they would love there shirts over old silicone.

It's not the silicon that's the issue, it's the production cost of the boards themselves that I'm thinking of. Also, silicon in a landfill isn't a big deal because it's just silicon (sand). It's everything else involved with them (PC Boards, capacitors, resistors, etc.) that gets problematic.

plus still might happen once ryzen older apus fade out.

It could. I personally wouldn't buy it but I can definitely see the appeal that it would have to a certain segment of the market. In fact, I would say that it would probably be good for office PCs because they tend to have very modest performance needs.

 

[beyondlogic]

Oh great, an overpriced card designed primarily for professional applications. 🙄

Oh great, an overpriced card designed primarily for professional applications. 🙄

🤣

the downside really now that i think about it was vega particular that it was a space heater

Well, I'm glad. As I said, I was speculating, tryin

Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

It has been the same here in Canada. I actually just sold a PC that I made of parts I had lying around for $800CAD and the motherboard was a Biostar A320MH that I got on clearance at Canada Computers for $40CAD. The board works beautifully and I had no doubts about it because my first build back in 1988 had a Biostar Baby-AT motherboard.

It's not the silicon that's the issue, it's the production cost of the boards themselves that I'm thinking of. Also, silicon in a landfill isn't a big deal because it's just silicon (sand). It's everything else involved with them (PC Boards, capacitors, resistors, etc.) that gets problematic.

It could. I personally wouldn't buy it but I can definitely see the appeal that it would have to a certain segment of the market. In fact, I would say that it would probably be good for office PCs because they tend to have very modest performance needs.

not bad. yeah i had a old office pc from my fathers office that was a biostar am2 board with a nvidia chip in the board lol.

i can see the production cost aspect.


and yeah i can see it in office pcs or thin itx motherboards.

i also have some of those fm2 apu boards by biostar may see if they will even run any aa games should be good for a laugh.

 

[Order 66]

Oh great, an overpriced card designed primarily for professional applications. 🙄

🤣

and it's 16GB of HBM doesn't help it. In order for it to fully utilize it, you would have to use settings that the GPU couldn't actually run.

 

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the downside really now that i think about it was vega particular that it was a space heater

Yeah, sometimes that's just how it turns out. Vega was ATi's Fermi in the way that it was very delayed, was way too hot, drank too much juice and underperformed.

i also have some of those fm2 apu boards by biostar may see if they will even run any aa games should be good for a laugh.

Go for it! I'd be interested to know the results! 😉👍

 

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Yeah, sometimes that's just how it turns out. Vega was ATi's Fermi in the way that it was very delayed, was way too hot, drank too much juice and underperformed.

I actually wouldn't mind if my PC would pump heat into my basement since it is always freezing. So long as it has temps that aren't extreme or dangerous, of course. I know that I could buy a space heater, but gaming and heating my room with the same device is just more efficient from a cost and power usage perspective.

 

[stonecarver]

I actually wouldn't mind if my PC would pump heat into my basement since it is always freezing.

IDK about a basement but my wife is always saying the house is to hot so she keeps heater freezing in winter. A trick I do is on a spare computer with a GTX 260 load Crysis and have MSI Afterburner fans to 75% and and put Crysis on pause. Keeps where I am nice and toasty and the electric bill is not that bad. I just keep it on 24/7 in cold season.

Been 12 years and she has never figured it out. 😈

 

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I actually wouldn't mind if my PC would pump heat into my basement since it is always freezing. So long as it has temps that aren't extreme or dangerous, of course. I know that I could buy a space heater, but gaming and heating my room with the same device is just more efficient from a cost and power usage perspective.

Temperatures from a video card can never be extreme or dangerous because the card would shut down or fail before it even got close to anything dangerous out of self-preservation. CPUs and GPUs today all have temp sensors built into them and they downclock themselves to reduce heat output. Once getting close to a temp that would be damaging to the silicon (which is far lower than what would be needed to start a fire), the card would downclock itself to the point that it shuts itself off.

You never need to worry about something like that. If you want to get more heat from your card, open your case side panel and set the card to overclock. With the side panel off, the card will be drawing air from the room instead of the case and that cooler air will allow it to clock higher, increasing its heat output.

 

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IDK about a basement but my wife is always saying the house is to hot so she keeps heater freezing in winter. A trick I do is on a spare computer with a GTX 260 load Crysis and have MSI Afterburner fans to 75% and and put Crysis on pause. Keeps where I am nice and toasty and the electric bill is not that bad. I just keep it on 24/7 in cold season.

Been 12 years and she has never figured it out. 😈

That's odd because women are usually freezing all the time, but hey, whatever works, eh?

 

[beyondlogic]

Yeah, sometimes that's just how it turns out. Vega was ATi's Fermi in the way that it was very delayed, was way too hot, drank too much juice and underperformed.

Go for it! I'd be interested to know the results! 😉👍

will do might do a round up of old parts to see if they even play any games planning a youtube channel eventually just have had zero time to get round to it

 

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will do might do a round up of old parts to see if they even play any games planning a youtube channel eventually just have had zero time to get round to it

No worries!

 

[Order 66]

The 30 series could have been one of the best value generations ever, if the scalpers hadn’t ruined it, among other things. It’s crazy how we went from the best value generation (at msrp) to the worst value generation in the 40 series.

 

[Crazyy8]

I'd say a more shocking good series of GPUs would be the 600 series. GPU boost is a really helpful feature, and 690 is the funny number.(The GTX 690 also inspired the industrial looks of the 700-900-1000 series FE cards.)The GTX 670 was a good mid range option and the 650 ti was a great budget option.

 

[beyondlogic]

The 30 series could have been one of the best value generations ever, if the scalpers hadn’t ruined it, among other things. It’s crazy how we went from the best value generation (at msrp) to the worst value generation in the 40 series.

nvidia still walked to the bank and i really doubt they had any intention of honoring those msrp it was good marketing spiel the super generation of 20 series bit them on the ass though as my 2060 super beats out the 3060 due to larger bandwidth.

the 30 series to me was the test the waters to see what we could get away with.

 

[beyondlogic]

I'd say a more shocking good series of GPUs would be the 600 series. GPU boost is a really helpful feature, and 690 is the funny number.(The GTX 690 also inspired the industrial looks of the 700-900-1000 series FE cards.)The GTX 670 was a good mid range option and the 650 ti was a great budget option.

i find it kind of wild that the core diffrence from the gtx 680 and 690 is huge lol.

 

[thestryker]

nvidia still walked to the bank and i really doubt they had any intention of honoring those msrp it was good marketing spiel the super generation of 20 series bit them on the ass though as my 2060 super beats out the 3060 due to larger bandwidth.

First of all you're just wrong about this one the 2060 S absolutely does not beat the 3060. There might be a few titles where this is the case, but most it's between the 2070 and 2070 S.

the 30 series to me was the test the waters to see what we could get away with.

This was actually the 20 series when nvidia raised prices without a big performance bump. Of the 30 series the 3050 was the only really bad value and the 3060 was okay though it should really have been a $300 part. The rest $ vs perf were really good compared to 20 series and the only thing lacking was VRAM.

 

[beyondlogic]

First of all you're just wrong about this one the 2060 S absolutely does not beat the 3060. There might be a few titles where this is the case, but most it's between the 2070 and 2070 S.

This was actually the 20 series when nvidia raised prices without a big performance bump. Of the 30 series the 3050 was the only really bad value and the 3060 was okay though it should really have been a $300 part. The rest $ vs perf were really good compared to 20 series and the only thing lacking was VRAM.

i have the 2060 super and ive compared it to 3060 from a mates when theres like a 5 frame gap between them we tried occing both my 2060 super overclocks better and easily bridges the gap
the extra vram of the 3060 just seems pointless as it offers very little boost obviously there are exceptions in some games but its hardly the upgrade pretty confident most super owners are still quite happy with there cards for now.

the 20 series they did raise prices on the original models the 2060 super at least in uk was about the same price as a 2060 at least when I bought it. the 3060 should have been what had 256 bit the bandwidth cutting is what lead to the 40 series being a basket case

 

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Well, it was a different time. The RX 6500 XT was released when people were so desperate for cards that they'd have bought anything. From a business standpoint, the release of the RX 6500 XT was probably a good move on AMD's part because I'm sure that a lot of cash-strapped people bought it, regardless of how pathetic its performance is.

The most popular games in the world are games like CS:GO, Overwatch, WoW, COD and Minecraft. The RX 6500 XT is more than enough to play those games well.

Yeah, you're right, the whole crypto-mining craze made everyone desperate for something that could play games. I would have jumped at the chance for a $300 gaming PC that could play basic games like Fortnite, RL, Minecraft and Roblox, with an upgrade path to play more demanding games later during the crypto craze.

 

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Yeah, you're right, the whole crypto-mining craze made everyone desperate for something that could play games. I would have jumped at the chance for a $300 gaming PC that could play basic games like Fortnite, RL, Minecraft and Roblox, with an upgrade path to play more demanding games later during the crypto craze.

Exactly. The fact that it had no hardware encoder, while a pretty big omission, makes no difference to most gamers, especially entry-level gamers.

 

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Exactly. The fact that it had no hardware encoder, while a pretty big omission, makes no difference to most gamers, especially entry-level gamers.

The encoder on my 6800 may get used if I decide to start recording my fortnite matches. (no, not to stream them, just record them so that I can go back and watch them again anytime I want. I hate the fact that when Fortnite updates, the replays (because they are saved as .replay files) don't work anymore.

 

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The encoder on my 6800 may get used if I decide to start recording my fortnite matches. (no, not to stream them, just record them so that I can go back and watch them again anytime I want. I hate the fact that when Fortnite updates, the replays (because they are saved as .replay files) don't work anymore.

Well the thing is, even if you don't have a hardware encoder in your card, you can still use software encoding. Software encoding can actually make a higher-quality video but it's slow and uses your CPU.

 

[Order 66]

How is the 2080 ti doing nowadays? I know the 1080ti with its 11GB of VRAM is still viable today. I would think the 2080 ti would last even longer given the fact that it has even more GPU horsepower.

 

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How is the 2080 ti doing nowadays? I know the 1080ti with its 11GB of VRAM is still viable today. I would think the 2080 ti would last even longer given the fact that it has even more GPU horsepower.

Of course it's still viable but it was perhaps one of the worst purchases in video card history because it was like $2,000 and it has not aged well AT ALL.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

GTX 1060 6GB brought GTX 980 performance with 50% more memory and less than half the price for a single generation leap in price and performance.