What build to choose!! Skylake or Haswell

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I currently have 2 builds in my mind. Both cost the same price here
This PC will be used for my everything. School, browsing the internet, gaming

Games I play are mostly CS:GO NBA 2K16, GTA V, And maybe some newer games.

Here is the Skylake build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H8FxwP
It has a 6400, R9 380 (2gb gddr5), nzxt s210.

Here is the haswell build:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cwt4zy
It has a 4590, R9 380 (2GB GDDR5), NZXT P240

I have did some research and CS:GO is a cpu intensive game. I really would like to get the most FPS because for some reason, playing in 60 - 100 frames feels really weird and when u have more FPS, mouse movement seems more smooth and stuff.

OS, Keyboard, and monitor is not inclulded in the prices. It is about 937$ (Yeah, prices are expensive here)

I know, the skylake has a CX PSU, I'm going to their store and planning to change it.

What build should I go with?
 
Solution
You will do well with either i3.
XFX 550w is an excellent psu and will be fine for a GTX970.

Do not chase a GTX970 with a fancy cooler. A simple blower cooler will be plenty.
A stock GTX970 will beat a overclocked lesser card.
Where is here?

If your games are cpu limited, you want the highest single threaded performance you can get.

In the US, that will be a i5-6600K with an expected 25% overclock.
If you are not comfortable with overclocking, look for a strong skylake I3.
The best would be the i3-6380 if it is available to you.
http://techreport.com/news/28957/the-skylake-core-i3-6320-is-the-gamer-new-best-friend

I would have issues with either build.
The skylake build has a poor psu as you mentioned.
You want a two stick kit of ram to be able to run in faster dual channel mode.

The haswell build is better, but you picked a very good but expensive motherboard.
You would be better off with a less expensive lga1150 motherboard that costs half as much.
You would game better with a cheaper i3-4170.
If you can overclock, pick a cheaper Z97 based motherboard and an overclockable i5-4690K.
Seasonic is an outstanding psu. But on a budget, do not pay more for modular or gold/platinum rating.

FWIW.
I will never again build without a ssd for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do much quicker.
120gb is minimum, it will hold the os and a handful of games. If you can go 240gb, you may never need a hard drive.

I would defer on the hard drive unless you need to store large files such as video's.
It is easy to add a hard drive later.
Samsung EVO is a good choice.
Intel 730 is OK too.
 
Well according to your feedback:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VZC9gs

I will not go for a HDD at first. I will buy one once I have enough money.
I made the GPU, IS 2gb enough? Or should I stick with it? I MIGHT be able to upgrade to an R9 390. What PSU should I go with if i do, and is there any problems with a i3 6300 and a r9 390?
What's a good, cheap mobo?
OH and what's the equivalent of the 6300 in haswell?

Thanks!
 
The closest haswell equivalent might be the i3-4170, it is a bit cheaper, but not as fast, perhaps 5-8% slower.

2gb vram is appropriate to that card.

VRAM has become a marketing issue.
My understanding is that vram is more of a performance issue than a functional issue.
A game needs to have most of the data in vram that it uses most of the time.
Somewhat like real ram.
If a game needs something not in vram, it needs to get it across the pcie boundary
hopefully from real ram and hopefully not from a hard drive.
It is not informative to know to what level the available vram is filled.
Possibly much of what is there is not needed.
What is not known is the rate of vram exchange.
Vram is managed by the Graphics card driver, so there may be differences in effectiveness between amd and nvidia cards.
Here is an older performance test comparing 2gb with 4gb vram.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Performance-2GB-vs-4GB-Memory-154/
Spoiler... not a significant difference.
And... no game maker wants to limit their market by
requiring huge amounts of vram. The vram you see will be appropriate to the particular card.

The R9-390 is an older tech rebrand and will want a 650w psu.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

By comparison, a similarly performing GTX970 would need some 75w less.
Many prefer the nvidia drivers.

Actually, the performance of two equally priced cards will be indistinguishable.

After sufficient wattage(actually +12v amperage)
the next criteria would be quality.
Try to pick a tier 1 or 2 unit from this list.
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true
No need to chase high efficiency or modular at a higher price point.

I see no problems with your new list.
Any lga1151 motherboard will do the job without issue.

 

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