What can you say about this build?

[dearjibril]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dearjibril%40gmail.com/saved/Xr2fHx

Please tell me what can i change and open for good suggestions. I am also thinking about asrock b360m pro motherboard or msi b360m mortar titanium is better? How about the video card, cpu cooler, fan etc.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

it's a decent build.

But assuming your budget is around $900 here's what I would get.

Bigger HDD, adds an SSD, bigger PSU, better GPU, and and overclockable CPU and furthermore, with the AM4 socket, you'll have support for at least Zen3 when it comes out and rumor has it Zen4 will also run on AM4 so all you'll need when it comes to CPU upgrades is to update the BIOS and just slap on the new CPU.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB FTW DT GAMING ACX 3.0 Video Card ($329.99 @ Walmart)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $871.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-25 03:13 EST-0500



Otherwise if you want to bring the price down you can go with the 1060 like you originally planned.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg Business)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $761.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-25 03:14 EST-0500

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

alternatively, if wanting to stick with that Intel CPU, I would change out the motherboard for an H370 and keep the other changes I made and remove the SSD but keep the 2TB upgrade and it'll cost a small bit less than your build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz 6-Core Processor ($220.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - H370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg Business)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $778.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-25 03:17 EST-0500

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

P.S. - The total price listed on these parts includes discounts and rebates.
To see what it costs before rebates and stuff click the PCPartPicker part list link.

 

[breadpug]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th68sZ

Rx 580 is pretty even with the GTX 1060, beating it out in some titles. 8400 and 2600 are very similar as well, 8400 is slightly better for gaming, but I don't see the price gap being worth it. Added and SSD and bigger HDD. More RAM and better, fully modular, PSU. Added three case fans because Eclipse comes with one pre installed and three empty slots.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th68sZ

Rx 580 is pretty even with the GTX 1060, beating it out in some titles. 8400 and 2600 are very similar as well, 8400 is slightly better for gaming, but I don't see the price gap being worth it. Added and SSD and bigger HDD. More RAM and better, fully modular, PSU. Added three case fans because Eclipse comes with one pre installed and three empty slots.

allow me to break down your build there.

CPU cooler is not necessary since the Ryzen CPU comes with the Wraith cooler and is good enough for some light overclocking.

Unless it is confirmed that the B350 motherboard you picked ships with an updated BIOS to support 2nd Gen Ryzen, the user you are suggesting it to will not be able to use their system once it's put together. The only hope they would have is to find someone local with a 1st Gen Ryzen chip that could help them out to update the BIOS or reach out to AMD for them to send a first gen chip in the mail that he can use then he sends it back.

That PSU is sold out and there is no confirmation of whether or not it will come back into stock. And if/when it does come back into stock, it won't be on sale anymore and will cost about the same as the one I provided in my build.

The SSD you chose is not only more expensive than the MX500, but also not as fast and reliable. Performance is lesser than the MX500.

But switching up to the RX 580 isn't a bad choice.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

Switching up for the RX 580 this is how the build would look.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($42.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg Business)
Case Fan: ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53 CFM 120mm Fan ($7.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $774.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-25 04:03 EST-0500

 

[dearjibril]

Nightowl

I don't know how to reply on your comment. H370, is better than b360? I dont really want to overclock, i want it cost wise but good at gaming and editing.

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

--edited--
you can't overclock on anything other than a Z series motherboard.
You also can't overclock on Intel CPU unless it's a K series.

So doesn't matter really which you go with, but the H370 I chose costs less so that saves you money which I assume is what you're going for.

But with the Ryzen build, you get more for your money, and it allows you to have an SSD. And with the latest version of the build using an RX 580 suggested by breadpug, you also get some extra case fans thrown into the mix.

 

[dearjibril]

Do i need to update bios manually or when i buy the 360 it is already updated?

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

Do i need to update bios manually or when i buy the 360 it is already updated?

sorry. I meant to not post that.
I got confused with the chipset numbers.
No need to update BIOS on the B360.

But like I said, the H370 costs less.

 

[dearjibril]

Oh okay thank you. If i go with the b360, what should i choose the asrock b360m pro4 or msi b360m mortar titanium? Or go with other motherboard like asus, gigabyte?

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

doesn't really matter which one you get. They all do the same thing.
Just that some might have an extra bell and whistle compared to another.
and of course it's aesthetics.
I personally would pick whatever get's the job done at the lowest price when it comes to these kinds of boards.

 

[dearjibril]

Thank you

 

[breadpug]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th68sZ

Rx 580 is pretty even with the GTX 1060, beating it out in some titles. 8400 and 2600 are very similar as well, 8400 is slightly better for gaming, but I don't see the price gap being worth it. Added and SSD and bigger HDD. More RAM and better, fully modular, PSU. Added three case fans because Eclipse comes with one pre installed and three empty slots.

allow me to break down your build there.

CPU cooler is not necessary since the Ryzen CPU comes with the Wraith cooler and is good enough for some light overclocking.

Unless it is confirmed that the B350 motherboard you picked ships with an updated BIOS to support 2nd Gen Ryzen, the user you are suggesting it to will not be able to use their system once it's put together. The only hope they would have is to find someone local with a 1st Gen Ryzen chip that could help them out to update the BIOS or reach out to AMD for them to send a first gen chip in the mail that he can use then he sends it back.

That PSU is sold out and there is no confirmation of whether or not it will come back into stock. And if/when it does come back into stock, it won't be on sale anymore and will cost about the same as the one I provided in my build.

The SSD you chose is not only more expensive than the MX500, but also not as fast and reliable. Performance is lesser than the MX500.

But switching up to the RX 580 isn't a bad choice.

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-MX500-250GB-vs-Adata-XPG-SX8200-NVMe-PCIe-M2-240GB/3951vsm480586

*mic drop*

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th68sZ

Rx 580 is pretty even with the GTX 1060, beating it out in some titles. 8400 and 2600 are very similar as well, 8400 is slightly better for gaming, but I don't see the price gap being worth it. Added and SSD and bigger HDD. More RAM and better, fully modular, PSU. Added three case fans because Eclipse comes with one pre installed and three empty slots.

allow me to break down your build there.

CPU cooler is not necessary since the Ryzen CPU comes with the Wraith cooler and is good enough for some light overclocking.

Unless it is confirmed that the B350 motherboard you picked ships with an updated BIOS to support 2nd Gen Ryzen, the user you are suggesting it to will not be able to use their system once it's put together. The only hope they would have is to find someone local with a 1st Gen Ryzen chip that could help them out to update the BIOS or reach out to AMD for them to send a first gen chip in the mail that he can use then he sends it back.

That PSU is sold out and there is no confirmation of whether or not it will come back into stock. And if/when it does come back into stock, it won't be on sale anymore and will cost about the same as the one I provided in my build.

The SSD you chose is not only more expensive than the MX500, but also not as fast and reliable. Performance is lesser than the MX500.

But switching up to the RX 580 isn't a bad choice.

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Crucial-MX500-250GB-vs-Adata-XPG-SX8200-NVMe-PCIe-M2-240GB/3951vsm480586

*mic drop*

oof. I'll give you that one, I thought it was the SU800.
But even then, why NVMe? no real point when it's for OS and main apps at a size of 250GB.
Now if it was a 1TB drive and being used for heavy video editing and large file transfers across a network and being used heavily in a business way where time is money, then yeah, NVMe speeds are exactly what you need.

Otherwise, SATA speeds are more than fast enough and it costs less.

Also, ADATA isn't well known for their build quality and while it may look to perform amazingly at first, most all their drives slow down and eventually fail after a short time by comparison to better brands. Hence why they are so cheap compared to better brands.