What components should i buy?

[PythonHeLL]

Hi!

I will be buying a gaming pc very soon. But i don't know which components to buy. I've already bought x2 MSI GTX 1080 GAMING X and a I5 7600. I'd appreciate it if you guys could "finish" my build. My budget is 500-900€. The cheaper, the better. And my "theme" is black and red or red and green. Thanks!

 

[imsqam]

Hi,

If you can I would return the two 1080's and get a single 1080 Ti. Many games have problems/don't support dual cards. As well, the 4 thread i5 will likely bottleneck dual 1080's
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/which-cpu-to-buy-for-gtx-1080-sli-build.229640/

But if you can't here is a build
PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For €0.00)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€196.26 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€132.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (€87.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€145.84 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €741.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-08 13:18 CEST+0200

 

[sizzling]

What resolution and Hz are you gaming at? For lower resolution and high Hz an i7 can show material benefits over an i5 in modern games and seems to be the way games are going. For high resolution and lower Hz (4k 60Hz) then an i5 is fine. I also agree, Id get a 1080Ti if possible. Sli has downsides which include games not supporting it or not supporting it very well.

 

[YoAndy]

Hi,

If you can I would return the two 1080's and get a single 1080 Ti. Many games have problems/don't support dual cards. As well, the 4 thread i5 will likely bottleneck dual 1080's
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/which-cpu-to-buy-for-gtx-1080-sli-build.229640/

But if you can't here is a build
PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For €0.00)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€196.26 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€132.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (€87.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€145.84 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €741.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-08 13:18 CEST+0200

So can you explain witch are those many games that have problems supporting SLI?. We are not in the 90's anymore:
Here is a list of games that support SLI and work really well.
http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/technology/sli

SLI 1080 vs 1080 ti Assasins Creed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McltEQzlafM

 

[H00dini]

Actually it was really dumb decision to get 2 1080 instead of one 1080ti. I hope you can return them and get a 1080ti
You can sell them if the attempt to return the GPUs didn't work.

 

[imsqam]

Hi,

If you can I would return the two 1080's and get a single 1080 Ti. Many games have problems/don't support dual cards. As well, the 4 thread i5 will likely bottleneck dual 1080's
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/which-cpu-to-buy-for-gtx-1080-sli-build.229640/

But if you can't here is a build
PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For €0.00)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€196.26 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€132.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (€87.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€145.84 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €741.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-08 13:18 CEST+0200

So can you explain witch are those many games that have problems supporting SLI?. We are not in the 90's anymore:
Here is a list of games that support SLI and work really well.
http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/technology/sli

SLI 1080 vs 1080 ti Assasins Creed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McltEQzlafM

So I am assuming by your statement that any post from the 2000's would constitute evidence of difficulties with SLI.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7631/wtf-wrong-multi-gpu-support-games-days/index.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4ko9fk/real_talk_about_sli_user_experiencecompatibility/
https://forums.titanfall.com/en-us/discussion/5593/sli-support
https://hardforum.com/threads/whats-the-point-of-sli-now-that-barely-any-new-games-support-it-properly.1899153/

Didn't say it wasn't possible, just that there can be problems.

 

[YoAndy]

Hi,

If you can I would return the two 1080's and get a single 1080 Ti. Many games have problems/don't support dual cards. As well, the 4 thread i5 will likely bottleneck dual 1080's
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/which-cpu-to-buy-for-gtx-1080-sli-build.229640/

But if you can't here is a build
PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/WDN9LD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For €0.00)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler (€29.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€196.26 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€132.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€97.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.50 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card (2-Way SLI) (Purchased For €0.00)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case (€87.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€145.84 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €741.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-08 13:18 CEST+0200

So can you explain witch are those many games that have problems supporting SLI?. We are not in the 90's anymore:
Here is a list of games that support SLI and work really well.
http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/technology/sli

SLI 1080 vs 1080 ti Assasins Creed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McltEQzlafM

So I am assuming by your statement that any post from the 2000's would constitute evidence of difficulties with SLI.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7631/wtf-wrong-multi-gpu-support-games-days/index.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4ko9fk/real_talk_about_sli_user_experiencecompatibility/
https://forums.titanfall.com/en-us/discussion/5593/sli-support
https://hardforum.com/threads/whats-the-point-of-sli-now-that-barely-any-new-games-support-it-properly.1899153/

Didn't say it wasn't possible, just that there can be problems.

I have 2X ZOTAC 980 ti Extreme's video cards and I don't have any problems playing games at 4k and 2k resolutions. But of course if you don't know what you are doing that makes a lot of sense to me. I also have another PC with a single GTX 1080 and i still prefer my 2x SLI

 

[imsqam]

I have 2X ZOTAC 980 ti Extreme's video cards and I don't have any problems playing games at 4k and 2k resolutions. But of course if you don't know what you are doing that makes a lot of sense to me. I also have another PC with a single GTX 1080 and i still prefer my 2x SLI

But your experience is not everyone's experience. Mr. Garreffa has issues and I would hope that he knows what he is doing.

Going back to my original statement

• ■ Some games do not now support SLI/Crossfire
  ■ Some never will support SLI/Crossfire
  ■ Some do support but the implementation is buggy
  ■ In some games the dual 1080 will have better performance but in some the 1080 Ti will do better due to increased VRAM size
  ■ And the biggest point all......Using dual 1080 GPU's with an i5-7600K will not work well, the CPU doesn't have enough threads. It will bottleneck the 1080's and it will be money poorly spent.

 

[YoAndy]

I have 2X ZOTAC 980 ti Extreme's video cards and I don't have any problems playing games at 4k and 2k resolutions. But of course if you don't know what you are doing that makes a lot of sense to me. I also have another PC with a single GTX 1080 and i still prefer my 2x SLI

But your experience is not everyone's experience. Mr. Garreffa has issues and I would hope that he knows what he is doing.

Going back to my original statement

• ■ Some games do not now support SLI/Crossfire
  ■ Some never will support SLI/Crossfire
  ■ Some do support but the implementation is buggy
  ■ In some games the dual 1080 will have better performance but in some the 1080 Ti will do better due to increased VRAM size
  ■ And the biggest point all......Using dual 1080 GPU's with an i5-7600K will not work well, the CPU doesn't have enough threads. It will bottleneck the 1080's and it will be money poorly spent.

The main Problem that I see(and u are right on that) is the i5 7600k, That processor is not powerful enough for the 1080 SLI or a 1080 ti. Of course it will work but will be holding back on the full potential of such a powerful card.