What cpu + mobo would you recommend for me?

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So until today my build has been:
cpu: Intel i7 920
mobo: asus p6t se
ram: g.skill 6GB tripple channel
gpu: ati radeon hd 5850
psu: coolermaster g750m
hard drive: 1 TB blue WD
ssd: sumsung evo 850 250GB
case: thermaltake VJ2000BWS M5

But, my mobo died. So I am looking to replace the mobo. Since x58 chipsets (lga 1366) are nonexistent where I live, I will have to change sockets which means change cpu too (and maybe ram I am not sure).

For what use?
The main things I do in my pc is play games (want to try witcher III, fallout 4 etc at some point when I upgrade gpu), programming (matlab, java etc), and running linux in VM.

I have thought of giving shot to new skylake cpu's, I had my eyes on i5 6500 but along with a good mobo the price goes around 350 euros in my country. However I do not know what chipset should I get, the options are H170, H110, B150 and Z170. Which would you recommend? Overall this option seems good to me if I get the budget.

If I won't be able to get enough money for these, what alternative, value for money options would you recommend? I haven't looked into AMD at all. Also, are skylake cpu worth it or I can get a better comp with the same or less money?

I am not able to shop from international markets due to capital controls in my country so do not compare prices let's say to amazon, it's cheaper there.
 
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The 6500 is the better buy, you won't miss the difference in 100 mhz. If you ever wanted the option to overclock, the Z170 boards now allow bclk overclocking and they have more features. But if your on a budget, the B85 or H110 boards are the way to go. There are DDR3 boards, but you have to use low power DDR3. I would stick with DDR4 myself, the price difference isn't that much different now. I would look at the ASUS and Gigabyte boards.
NOT Z170

Aside from that

An i7-5820k is fantastic if you've got the caps. Buy yourself a decent motherboard and video card and you're set. Is that DDR3 ram? Regardless I'd upgrade from 6GB anyway. 8 and above is good.
 


I would second that, I have the 5820k in my pc with a gtx 970 and is is a very fast computer. I never have a problem with overheating or cpu throttling. The 5820k is definitely one of the best CPUs for the money.
 
Agreed the x99 platform is more expensive. Not sure why you would recommend a 6 core cpu for gaming also. There are much better options for what hes trying to achieve. Skylake is a good way to go. Its cheaper and handles all of todays games without a slouch. I agree though if I didnt get my 6700k, I would have gone 5820k but im very satisfied with my z170 build. My recommendation is I5-6600k or even one of the non k chips. 6500 is ok too. Or the 4670 is good too. Depending on what platform you choose you will need new memory, at minimum 8GB or better yet 16gb. Theyve become reasonably priced.
 
1) The difference betweek 6500 and 6600 i 28 euros but only 0.1 GHz difference I am not sure it is worth it. The k series is for overcloking as I have heard, but I am not going to overclock anything anyway because I am afraid of temperatures so there is no reason to look at k processors.

2) What motherboard should I choose?

3) Are all skylake motherboards ddr4 compatible, or the ddr3 compatible motherboards can not accept ddr4 ram?
 
Yes non k chips would be the way to go if your not overclocking. And since your not overclocking look into H170 from Asus, Gigabyte or MSI. Whichever one stands out to you. Skylake is DDR4 or DDR3L compatible but I would go DDR4
 
The 6500 is the better buy, you won't miss the difference in 100 mhz. If you ever wanted the option to overclock, the Z170 boards now allow bclk overclocking and they have more features. But if your on a budget, the B85 or H110 boards are the way to go. There are DDR3 boards, but you have to use low power DDR3. I would stick with DDR4 myself, the price difference isn't that much different now. I would look at the ASUS and Gigabyte boards.
 
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The motherboard says it supports ram up to 2133MHZ. This seems to be the lowest frequency of ddr4 ram. Does this mean that if I get, let's say a 2400MHz or more frequency ram, the ram still will be underperforming since the frequency will be less than what is expected? Also, does the ram has to be from the QVL? The ram support seems extremely lacking http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/B150M-A/B150M_A_DRAM_QVL_201509.pdf
 
If you can't find RAM on the QVL, you can probably still use others, it just means they haven't been tested in the system. The RAM speed isn't really important, the difference in speed doesn't make a dramatic difference in day to day use. I would get what ever kit I can find the cheapest and with the lowest case latency. If you did end up using 2400 speed RAM, it would just default back to 2133.

Your website actually has the Corsair Value select that's on the QVL:

http://www.e-shop.gr/ram-corsair-cmv4gx4m1a2133c15-4gb-ddr4-2133mhz-value-select-p-PER.549695
 
Yep, if I end up getting this mobo I will get the 8GB version of corsair value. Will this be a good system overall? I am planning on upgrading my gpu in some months, I guess I won't have any issues placing it on this mobo.
 
Because in other forums people told me that this mobo sucks (dunno what to believe), I decided to throw some extra cash and get the asus h170 pro gaming. This must be surely quality one, or at least I hope.
 
I decided not to get the cheapest motherboard, since I want the pc to be as future proof as possible and I want the mobo to last long. Can you tell me the difference between asus h170 pro and asus h170 pro gaming? I mean, the gaming version sure have colors and some features about games, but I do not really need those. Couldn't care less about the color and game apps. However there seems to be a bonus heatsing on the top side of the gaming, perhaps its durability is better?

Also on the asus website, there is not "asus h170-pro", but it is named "asus h170 pro/csm". Is it an updated version? The csm is also on the box while the mobo I am looking at has no csm on the box.

Edit: I searched for them myself, the csm seems to be exactly the same, also I decided to go for the h170-pro because it is cheaper and there are only minor differents with the pro gaming, biggest being the sound card. However my 2.1 system is total cheap and won't make any difference, and my audio-technica m40x won't make such a huge difference either. The bonus thing in the pro is that it offers some over voltage protection which the pro gaming doesn't offer, so it should be a bit more durable and safe. I was thinking about the z170-k too, however my cpu will be locked anyway, and I do not think that there is much to gain from overcloking the ram for simple use, and the usb 3.1 compatibility doesn't look worth it either. The pro is 16 euros cheaper than the z170-k and 17 euros cheaper than the pro gaming, and I am not losing anything too much.
 

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