[SOLVED] What CPU would work the best in my MSI motherboard?

[NoahGrizz101]

I am planning on building my first pc for gaming and I know nothing about it, I have most of the parts picked out for it but I don't know what CPU to buy. The mother board i'm going to buy is the MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC what CPU would you guys recommend buying for this?

 

[CountMike]

I am planning on building my first pc for gaming and I know nothing about it, I have most of the parts picked out for it but I don't know what CPU to buy. The mother board i'm going to buy is the MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC what CPU would you guys recommend buying for this?

All 8th or 9th gen Intel CPUs work with it, just depends what you need

 

[NoahGrizz101]

All 8th or 9th gen Intel CPUs work with it, just depends what you need

Do you think you could get a link to one that would work because I don't know anything about CPUs?

 

[CountMike]

Do you think you could get a link to one that would work because I don't know anything about CPUs?

Yeah sure here they are with best at top https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC#support-cpu
What are you going to do with that PC and how much are you willing to spend on it and whole system as you are going to need whole slew of components.

 

[geofelt]

One normally picks the cpu first and then picks the motherboard.
Is there a reason you are focused on this particular motherboard?
May I suggest that you give us your budget and then a list of the proposed parts.

 

[NoahGrizz101]

Yeah sure here they are with best at top https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC#support-cpu
What are you going to do with that PC and how much are you willing to spend on it and whole system as you are going to need whole slew of components.

Thanks I am planning on streaming on it, I don't really have a budget but I would prefer for it not to be a ton because I am young so I can only work part time. I have the graphics card cooling system power supply RAM mother board case and hard drive picked out right now if you want to know what ones I am planning on buying I could send you the names.

 

[NoahGrizz101]

One normally picks the cpu first and then picks the motherboard.
Is there a reason you are focused on this particular motherboard?
May I suggest that you give us your budget and then a list of the proposed parts.

This is my first time building one so I don't know what I am doing if you have another motherboard that would be better I am up for suggestions I will make a list of my supplies real quick feel free to suggest changes and budget is not the biggest deal to me I have to work part time so I would like it not to be huge though.

 

[NoahGrizz101]

Here is what I am planning on using
Graphics Card: GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING
Motherboard: MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
Cooling system: CORSAIR - Hydro Series H100i RGB Platinum 120mm Processor Liquid Cooling System
RAM: CORSAIR - Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB (2PK 16GB) 3GHz PC4-24000 DDR4 DIMM Unbuffered Non-ECC Desktop Memory Kit
Power Supply: EVGA - 600W ATX 12V/EPS 12V 80 Plus Power Supply

 

[geofelt]

OK.
A balanced gamer will budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
Working backwards, a $260 GTX1660 super
Would be appropriate for a $130 processor.
A good option is the i3-10100 processor at $125.
It comes with a cooler.
Liquid cooling is no particular benefit because a air cooler will work just as well, be quieter, cheaper, require no maintenance and... will not leak.
A suitable motherboard will be $100 or so.
If budget is not an issue, look for a i5-10600K and a Z490 based motherboard.
Here is a review:
Yes, you will need a cpu cooler.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review

You need only 450w for a GTX1660 super. but 600w is not wrong.
But, I fear that the evga unit is in the tier 5/6 category on this list:

PSU Tier List [OLD]

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed in creation by the P...

linustechtips.com

Here is a better quality seasonic 550w unit
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-550-gold-ssr-550fm-550w/p/N82E16817151203

Ram looks OK, but you are likely paying more for the fancy rgb heat spreader.

 

[NoahGrizz101]

OK.
A balanced gamer will budget 2x the cost of the processor for the graphics card.
Working backwards, a $260 GTX1660 super
Would be appropriate for a $130 processor.
A good option is the i3-10100 processor at $125.
It comes with a cooler.
Liquid cooling is no particular benefit because a air cooler will work just as well, be quieter, cheaper, require no maintenance and... will not leak.
A suitable motherboard will be $100 or so.
If budget is not an issue, look for a i5-10600K and a Z490 based motherboard.
Here is a review:
Yes, you will need a cpu cooler.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i5-10600k-cpu-review

You need only 450w for a GTX1660 super. but 600w is not wrong.
But, I fear that the evga unit is in the tier 5/6 category on this list:

PSU Tier List [OLD]

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed in creation by the P...

linustechtips.com

Here is a better quality seasonic 550w unit
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-550-gold-ssr-550fm-550w/p/N82E16817151203

Ram looks OK, but you are likely paying more for the fancy rgb heat spreader.

Thank you if i needed to I could take one RAM card out and have 16 gb which would be good too but aren't the i3 and i5 processors kind of slow? I have a laptop with a i5 in it and it is not good for gaming.

 

[geofelt]

On ram, decide what you really need and buy it up front in a single 2 stick kit, Either 2 x 8gb or 2 x 16gb.
The reason is that ram must be matched in a single kit for proper operation.
If you buy one kit now, plan on selling it for a larger capacity kit later when you need it.
Simply adding ram may not be compatible.
Considering that ram is relatively cheap now. consider sticking with the 2 x 16gb kit.
For gaming, I would think 2 x 8gb would be more than enough.

Gaming depends primarily on graphics.
Integrated graphics in a laptop(or desktop) is not suited for fast action gaming.
Laptops are oriented towards battery savings, not for performance.
I see many posts with laptop gaming issues, mainly, I think from the small coolers they need to have.

Then, also, the designation of I3-i5 has changed with current 10th gen desktop processors.
It used to be that i3 meant 2 cores, 4 threads if hyperthreading was available.
The i3-10100 I referenced above has 4 cores, but 8 processing threads.
Perhaps more importantly, it will boost to 4.3 if needed for a single thread.
The i5-10600K referenced above has 6 cores and 12 threads. It boosts to 4.8
The ryzen 3700X has 16 threads but has a max boost of 4.4
For the most part, few games can effectively make use of more than 6 threads.
Those will be multiplayer games with many participants.

 

[NoahGrizz101]

On ram, decide what you really need and buy it up front in a single 2 stick kit, Either 2 x 8gb or 2 x 16gb.
The reason is that ram must be matched in a single kit for proper operation.
If you buy one kit now, plan on selling it for a larger capacity kit later when you need it.
Simply adding ram may not be compatible.
Considering that ram is relatively cheap now. consider sticking with the 2 x 16gb kit.
For gaming, I would think 2 x 8gb would be more than enough.

Gaming depends primarily on graphics.
Integrated graphics in a laptop(or desktop) is not suited for fast action gaming.
Laptops are oriented towards battery savings, not for performance.
I see many posts with laptop gaming issues, mainly, I think from the small coolers they need to have.

Then, also, the designation of I3-i5 has changed with current 10th gen desktop processors.
It used to be that i3 meant 2 cores, 4 threads if hyperthreading was available.
The i3-10100 I referenced above has 4 cores, but 8 processing threads.
Perhaps more importantly, it will boost to 4.3 if needed for a single thread.
The i5-10600K referenced above has 6 cores and 12 threads. It boosts to 4.8
The ryzen 3700X has 16 threads but has a max boost of 4.4
For the most part, few games can effectively make use of more than 6 threads.
Those will be multiplayer games with many participants.

Im going to get a 2x of 16gb ram cards i'm going to get a unlocked i7 core and a GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING graphics card I don't understand all the stuff with the processors could you explain what the cores and threads mean and also overclocking and processing threads i'm just getting started with all of this stuff (also could you please recommend a good air cooler I don't want a water cooler)