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I am about to order some parts for a new build and I saw a really good deal on some ddr3 memory

http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16820231306

and a good motherboard to go with it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631

and of course the cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

Would all that work out? the main reason im curious is because on the motherboard it has ddr3 2000(O.C) on it which makes me wonder if it is saying it will only run 2000 with 1600 overclocked to 2000, does that mean I can not run ddr3 2000?

Thanks


 
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not obsolete, they are better for certain tasks than the i5 750.

basically, the 860 is the same processor as the 750, just with hyperthreading. HT has no benefit in gaming, but is very good for other CPU heavy tasks like compression or encoding. so they still have alot of sue for people who don't game. for gaming though, you are better of getting the i5 or an AMD equivalent. similar performance for less cash.
The most expensive combo of AMD processor and motherboard below, the 965 and the Gigabyte 790FX amounts to $359.98 and should easily whup that i7 combo you are considering. I included the other AMD processor and MB because they are an easy match for that i7 combo and come to only $288.99 and that 955 M box has an unlocked multiplier and can be over-clocked to over 4.4 Ghz. with 3rd party cooling The 890GX board also has the latest chip-set from AMD and Sata 3 6gbs and USB 3 5Gbs. The 890FX is supposed to be released on April 26
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128415

This is ATI Radeons Crossfire chart. As you can see it seems to be out of date as it does not include your 5830. However, if you look carefully you will see that the 5850, 5870 and 5970 can be CF together in any combination. This should include your 5830 (a late arrival to the ATI stable) in the up-dated chart. In other words you could put any combo of 3 of these 4 cards together in CF on that 790FX mother board above which also has Sata 3 6Gbs and USB 3 5Gbs and will take the soon to be introduced 6 core Thuban (April 26). How's that for future-proofing. You won't be able to throw a 6 core Intel processor into that i7 board as I believe it requires a different socket. If you can afford one, the Thuban is expected to be under $300.

http://game.amd.com/us-en/content/images/crossfirex/CF_combo_chart.jpg
 
"Also I am skeptical to buy a SSD because I have read a lot of posts with people having a lot of issues with ssd's so I am paranoid to purchase one because I dont want a headache trying to get it to work,"

All I can say is conquer your fear, do some more reading and stick with a good name like Patriot (10 yr warranty), OCZ, Crucial, G-Skill (they are all warrantied).
 
I think if you are doing a lot of different things on your computer, loading apps., Photo Shop, animation, music, movies, go with the SSD. If you are mostly interested in gaming, first person shooters especially, then I believe you will see more of a performance boost with CFing 2X5830s in game play, frames per sec. and ability to go with higher resolution screen. However, as I mentioned earlier maps load almost instantaneously and this can be a real advantage in "real time strategy" games where having a little extra time to look at the map while everybody else is still loading is like having a spy behind the lines.

Good luck in what ever you decide.
 
I have been so indecisive, I have been looking into this way too much, I have spent atleast 15 hours finding out what I should get and I honestly can not decide, I was waiting for the new 6 core phenom to come out, I saw some benchmarks and it's not as good as I thought it would be, the 3.2ghz one is 300$, I can get an i7 930 for under 300$ but then ill need a mobo and ram.

I just want a fast computer that will be awesome for gaming for atleast 2-3 years, I mean in 1 year wouldnt a 965 be considered mainstream? how will the i7 be? Would I notice a difference in games? I don't wanna end up turning settings down in a game in the future and thinkig if I would have got an i7 I wouldn't have to turn these settings down.

sorry I am picky.

Also I have been looking at those intel 80gb ssd drives, the award winning ones, Are those the best performance ones? Also If I were to get another 5830 there probably would be heat issues wouldn't there? Mine runs cool right now but I do have air flow under the card, I cant imagine how hot it would get running next to another 5830.

what to get what to get...

Thanks a ton for your help though
 
With a SSD drive in order to have improved loading times in games dont I have to have the game installed on the ssd? I would need to get a damn expensive ssd to install new games that are 8-16GB

as far as adding another 5830 which is what im prolly gona do and wait for ssds to go down in price

what kind of 5830 should I get, should i get the same one I already have which is this exact card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102879&cm_re=radeon_5830-_-14-102-879-_-Product

should I get the same exact one and put it in with this? what would be the best for cooling should I get one with 2 fans? what would be the best one in this list, what one would be smartest to put next to my 5830

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=radeon+5830&x=0&y=0
 
I guess if you were playing more then 3-4 games at the same time it might be a prob., but ya I would go with a new video card for now.

One of the nice things about AMD's CF X is the fact that you don't need exactly matched cards model wise as between 5830, 5850, 5870, 5970 and brand wise as with your Saphire and any other brand. you cannot do that with Intel's SLI system which needs exactly matched cards. Saphire suffers a bad rep for customer service and warranties so I would go with the XFX HD5830 because of the life time warranty, their good rep for honoring that warranty, the free game and it's $9 cheaper lol.
 


The Phenom 6X have just been released and haven't really been bench-marked properly yet and we should be able to over-clock the dickens out of it.

You can get the 965 for $180 now and get a Thuban in a year after they have dropped or whatever backward compatible 8X AMD has out then and stay well ahead of whatever demands the next set of games are going to need. Making sure their new processors fit in our old boards is something AMD seems to specialize in.

Ya the intel SSD's have been cleaning up in most benchmarks but those new Sata 3 Crucial 300s have left them in the dust best performance-wise.

The 5xxx series cards are not big heat producers and that case you are using look like it can handle it anyway.


 
Thanks for the feedback, before I got my 5830 I had a XFX 5770 and that card got realy hot I would have to turn the fan up to keep it under 80C and I have pretty good cooling, I went for saphire because I heard they run cooler which they do, thats all I care about. Anyway I guess ill have to wait for more benchmarks to know which way to go.
 

That is exactly what I meant by "properly".

Thanx Welshmousepl
 

I don't know if that model of XFX 5770 was a bad for heating or not. More likely the cooler became dislodged from the chip and was not properly reseated. Video cards are bad for this problem. I always check new cards as this symptom is often the result of the shippers rough handling or just bad assembly. Even if You have to remove the cowling to get a good look or the cooler it self to see whether it even has thermal grease. Not LOL
 

hmm HD 5770 runs cool,there must have been something wrong with yours then.
And what are your choices now(that you want to wait) ?
 
The card was in perfect condition, It would only heat up when shaders were up all the way, it would get over 80C but on average it would stay at 75C which is fine but I dont want that kind of heat. I was looking at this 5830, its a special kind, its a bit more money but runs cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127491&cm_re=radeon_5830-_-14-127-491-_-Product

Also how come it only has 1 DVI and not 2 + 1hdmi like my 5830?

Picture my 5830, (Saphire Version) What would the best type of cooler be for the card I am going to add


There are some reviews with that xfx 5830 running hot, check out the newegg review by the first guy

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150481

xfx has always ran hot other then that they are okay, The saphire version I have (call of duty version) is what I might get hoping that the temps wont go up a lot. What temps do those phenom x6 run at on average?
 
I honestly am soo confused, I was looking at a 6 core phenom 2.8 for 200$ but then I saw something about an i5 750 beating the 965 which I was looking at before so then I compared the i5 to the new phenom x6, I then put together an i7 930 system together, mobo ram and cpu for 670 which is exactly how much it would cost to get the phenom x6 system with mobo ram and video card

I wish I had some influence lol
 


unless you are doing something to actually use those extra cores, i'd get an i5.

since no games currently use more than 4 cores, you would be better off with a strong quad (the i5 750 is one of the best for gaming)
 
would that i7 750 be faster for gaming (at default clock speeds) then the 6 core phenom's and 965 all at default clock? I know it might not be as powerful overall but in terms of FPS type games would it be faster? i could get a i5 750 and mobo for like 370$ which would leave me an extra 300-400$ for stuff to add
 


yes, the i5 750 is stronger than the x6 (at least, according to the benchmarks ive seen so far).
 
okay, Well lets see here, i5-750 200$ mobo for it 150$ i7 930 300$ mobo for it 200, memory 170 = 670 vs 450 ish for i5-750. Unless, Are you able to use tri channel with anything else other then i7? If so then awesome, Does it really have a huge effect having tri channel memory vs dual channel?

thanks again for the information , you rock!

wow, I didnt see that the i5 750 is only 2.66 ghz 🙁