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I am about to order some parts for a new build and I saw a really good deal on some ddr3 memory

http://www.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingItem.aspx?ItemList=N82E16820231306

and a good motherboard to go with it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631

and of course the cpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

Would all that work out? the main reason im curious is because on the motherboard it has ddr3 2000(O.C) on it which makes me wonder if it is saying it will only run 2000 with 1600 overclocked to 2000, does that mean I can not run ddr3 2000?

Thanks


 
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not obsolete, they are better for certain tasks than the i5 750.

basically, the 860 is the same processor as the 750, just with hyperthreading. HT has no benefit in gaming, but is very good for other CPU heavy tasks like compression or encoding. so they still have alot of sue for people who don't game. for gaming though, you are better of getting the i5 or an AMD equivalent. similar performance for less cash.
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I just read the latest review in Tom,s News Letter and it does seem that AMD has aimed the Thuban at the lucritive work station, video music editors, animators, people who can multi-thread, etc. I guess AMD figures that the 955, 965 will keep gamers happy until Bulldozer next year.

I picked up a 955 M box a couple months back in a combo deal with an HD 4890. I had read that it has an unlocked multiplier and could be over-clocked to 4.5+GHz. with a good after market cooler. I've been waiting for the 890 FX boards to put it in. In the meantime I've been lapping the 955 and the stock cooler smooth to see if I can get it stable over 4GHz just for the fun. The stock cooler has a copper-plate interface and it is not very flat or smooth and AMD puts a very thick wad of thermal paste on it to make sure that things stay cool.

So, anyone seen an over-clock stand-off between 955, 965, i5 750, i7 920, i7 975, i7 980x anywhere. Does the highest clock speed determine the winner or do other factors come into play.
 
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it depends on what you are doing, the max overclocks are very similar amongst all those chips tbh.

the average/enthusiast overclocker should have no trouble hitting 4Ghz, and en expert should be able to go a little further. watercooling can allow for 4.2-4.4 or even higher.

assuming a target of 4ghz (the normal target for most of those chips), the i5 750 would generally be the best for gaming, followed closely by the i7 920 then the phenom II. the i7 975 is just a pre overclocked 920, so it doesn't have any real benefit aside from perhaps more overclocking headroom.

i would ususally put it down to a persons budget. if you can afford an i5 750 WITHOUT having to take money away from a GPU, then its the best chip. though most of the time, you would be better off getting a Phenom II 965 and putting the extra cash into a better GPU. the 965 is literally a fraction behind.
the 920 is worth getting only if you intend to run two or more high-end GPUs (gtx 470 or more powerful).

and then theres the six cores, only really useful if you have something that can actually use those extra cores. for gaming, its useless right now, though i doubt it will be long before games are using more than 4 physical cores.

long story short, i'd get a Phenom II 965 and a decent cooler. unless you can get an i5 750 and still get a top of the range GPU.
 
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I have been doin a lot of thinking, I really want to go for the phenom 2 6 core 2.8ghz, I can get a really good SSD drive if I go that way, plus I might be able to afford a 5850, I would like to sell this current 5830 I have right now because a 5850 + 5830 doesnt perform as well as 2 5850's so I would rather step up to a 5850 but I doubt I will be able to sell this card.. I will prolly just end up going with another 5830, 5850's are cheap now I saw one for 309 which was a good deal imo

Anyway would the 6 core 2.8 be able to keep up with the 965 and 750?

its 209$ plus a 140$ motherboard seems like a really good deal.

what do you think about this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139135

vs that 80GB intel ssd for 215
 
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that sounds like a reasonable choice.

in the benchmarks shown so far, the x6 1090t (the highest spec version) is just a tad behind the 965 in gaming. i have yet to see any overlccoked benchmarks tohugh, so its possible that when overlcocked it will be on par, or perhaps even better. thats in games that use four cores though, and if you keep the chip long nough to see games using more than that, it whould do much better than the 965.

good luck on the build anyway. I'd be interested to hear how it works out, as i am considering getting an x6 myself. not entirely sure yet though.
 
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Would I notice a difference in games between the 965 or the 1050 6 core? I thought because it has 6MB of Cache it would do better but I guess its not 6mb unless you utilize all cores.

Im scared I am going to build a system then see something much better and cheaper come out and wish I could return the parts lol.. I guess that's a risk you gotta take.

Also what do you think of that 128GB Kingston drive?
 
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thats pretty muich always the case when it comes to PC hardware. i don't think you will see any massive drop in performance compared to the 965, especially if you can overclock it.

i woudl NOT reccomend that SSD though. the V+ series are nto bad, but the regular v series are some of the worst SSDs available. i would avoid it, check out some reviews and you will see why. the intel SSD is the better choice by far.
 
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not obsolete, they are better for certain tasks than the i5 750.

basically, the 860 is the same processor as the 750, just with hyperthreading. HT has no benefit in gaming, but is very good for other CPU heavy tasks like compression or encoding. so they still have alot of sue for people who don't game. for gaming though, you are better of getting the i5 or an AMD equivalent. similar performance for less cash.
 
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Is the 965 the fastest AMD processor there is for gaming? Tonight I am officially ordering all parts and I still haven't decided what I fully want, I just wanna make sure I have parts that will be good for awhile, stuff up to date.

BTW thanks a ton for your feedback


how old is the i5 750? what year did the 8 series i7 and 9 series i7 come out? Aren't they getting pretty old?

What's the difference between this cpu phenom IIx4 905e Vs the 965? They both seem to be in the same price range.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103682&cm_re=phenom_2-_-19-103-682-_-Product
 
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What do you guys think about this vs all the processors we have been talking about, how good would it do vs all of them, 965's 6 core 1050t, i5 750, etc

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130239

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260


How old are those 860's? Are they pretty old now?

oh, also I need a SSD drive , The intel ones went back up in price, from like 215 to 250-300 I was upset to see that.. is this kingston or corsair drive okay?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820139132

for a ssd I would prefer spending under 200 but if its a really good drive ill go up to like 220.. unless its an extremely good deal I could go mid 200's

Also how is the cooling on those 95W i7's? I prefer having a really quiet system, like most people. Are those stock heatsink fans okay? I am new at building systems and prefer to have a heatsink that isn't really hard to figure out. I also have 4 120MM fans in my case right now, is there anything else I can add to I have cooler temps so I can overclock? I don't need to overclock it way high, just enough to notice a difference in games. What cpu runs the coolest and is the easiest to set up out of all the ones we have discussed. I am just curious.

Thanks
 
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all of the i5 and i7 processors are fairly new, and yes the 965 is the best gaming processor AMD offer.

the kingston and corsair drives are both awesome, so either is good.

as for cooling, just pick up a cheap after market cooler like the hyper 212+, it doesn't cost too much but offers pletny of cooling for some decent overclocks.
 
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I decided that I am going to go for an i5 750 I just did a lot of reading about the lynnfield chips and I think the 750 is for sure the way to go, This is my cart right here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131400

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215

Total for all 3 is 509$ Which isn't too bad is it?

what do you think about this motherboard right here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131620

It would save me 50$ if I got that , I would be able to put the 50$ towards an ssd. If that 200$ board is the best way to go I will do it but if it wouldn't make much of a difference between the 150$ and 200$ then I will go for the 150$

Most importantly installation. I am hoping I won't come across anything that I might mess up on because I am not doing it right, it's only happened to me once with a heatsink fan that was stupid complicated to install..

Is there a pretty simple cpu heatsinkfan that I should get with the i5 750 that's pretty simple?

Also what do you think about that ram?
 
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theres no reason not to get the cheaper mobo really, it looks good enough.

the choices are good, the RAM is excellent so should be no issue at all.

for the cooler, it depends how much you want to spend. the CM hyper 212+ is definitely the best value. it performas almost as well as high end coolers for half the price. if you want to spend a little more though i would recommend the tuniq tower 120 extreme or the megahalem.

as for installation, its all pretty much the same. intel use a weird push-pin configuration that im not too fond of, but there should be plenty of simple guides to make it easy enough.
 
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Im paranoid of those push pin heatsink fans, I remember my p4 3.2 prescott had one of those and I almost cracked the board lol, would it be a lot easier to get an aftermarket heatsink, do you know of one that isnt too hard to install and that works good? If this setup is under 500 or around 500 I will have some extra money for addons but I would like an SSD drive, I really am interested in overclocking now, I just want this to go from 2.6ghz to atleast 3.0 so it can keep up with some 965's or 955s.

Show me an easy to install heatsink for the i5 750 for a good price, what do you think about those water cooling cpu coolers? are those hard to install?

Is there a usb 3.0 board thats around the same price range as that 200$ board ? I want to make sure I am up to date if possible.

BTW this is my current aftermarket cpu cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106135&cm_re=thermaltake_heatsink-_-35-106-135-_-Product

My temps usually are 40-50C Idle and gets up to 62C under load so I doubt it would be able to cool the i5 950 very good.

(that heatsink was a challenge to install for the AMD the intel brackets look a lot harder.
 
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I know I have changed my mind 100 times but I decided to go for the i7 930 so I can get tripple channel memory and can have a machine that will be a little bit more future proof. I just want to make sure I order the best ram and mobo, here are the 3 items

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231247

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.381166


What do you think? Also is there a simple aftermarket cpu cooler I could get that would work ok and be quiet?

Is that motherboard okay for crossfire?

 
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i wouldn't call that more future proof.

triple channel memory is pointless unless you do alot of encoding, and the LGA1156 platform is almost certainly going to be the 'main' platform going ahead. since LGA 1156 was launched only one new chip has beeb released for the 1366 platform, and thats a 1000 dollar six-score.

1366 were designed as server boards, they are less suited to gaming and are reserved for the uber high end expensive chips.

If you want a 920 proc, then thats fine, but be aware that people saying that 1366 is the more futureproof platform are downright wrong.

as for a cooler, the one you have now will certainly not do the job for overclocking, but they will all require push pins since thats the standard for intel sockets. just get a good cooler,m and make sure you get a decent guide off the net before installing it.
 
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I ordered an i7 930 1366 board and 6 gb memory, tripple channel will eventually have an effect on performance, mabey not now but eventually, like dual channel vs single channel.

I was going to go for an i5 750 but I really want something that has more power, even if it costs an extra hundred $, I am just curious to see how this system will play GTA IV

Hopefully better then my AMD X2 5600+ lol

my next upgrade will be a SSD drive or a 5800 ati, I was going to order an i5 with a ssd but I don't do anything that requires too much loading time, I am just barely getting used to 4GB of memory vs 2GB.

I was just watching a video of a guy installing a i7 920 cpu and he took the heatsink and put it right on the cpu without spreading the thermalpaste that was on it. Is that normal? I am going to see how temps are with stock, hopefully it wont overheat when I game, eventually I will get an aftermarket cooler.

Anyway thanks a ton for your help, I learned a lot.

I will keep you posted on how this works out!
 
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for gaming, no triple channel will never be of great importance (at least not for a few more generations). not that it doesn't have other uses, but the fact is that RAM is never the bottleneck in a decent system. single to single channel to dual effectively doubles bandwidth and still the improvement is minor. adding another 50 percent (half the performance gain) is negligible.

not to say the 9 series chips are bad though, they are excellent processors, but they were never designed around gaming and thats why the 8 and 7 series chips are better.

as for the heatsink installation, yes thats fairly normal. the weight of the HS will spread the TIM out fairly evenly, so many people install it that way. personally i prefer to remove it and put on some higher quality TIM and ensure it gets applies evenly.

no worries though, feel free to give me a best answer 😀
 
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I was just checking out some benchmarks and I just watched this video showing intel staff testing out the i7 running various tests and there was this girl who had to sit and run games over and over testing settings tweaking everything, the 930 might not be as much focused on gaming as the 8 series but if you overclock it really high and I want to play crysis with torrents running, web browser and IM, sidebar, anti virus and all other programs. i am sure it would be a help. I have been spending a lot of time gaming lately because I got a 5830 but I also do a lot of other things, I am sure I will put this to use 😉 I know that I really don't need this kind of power because mostly it is beneficial for people doing heavy duty design and compression/conversion but I do think 3-4 years from now by the time this cpu is obsolete I wont feel rushed to upgrade because this thing will still be able to keep on goin, im sure tri channel memory will be put to use, when quad channel memory is mainstream.

I cant wait to be able to multi task and see what this bad boy can do.

Thanks a ton for your help, I know I didn't really go towards the direction you suggested but I just wanted something really powerful that I could be excited about, I was going to go for the i5 750 or 860 but then saw dual channel memory vs tri channel, it just seemed a lot better to spend an extra hundred and go for something quicker, might not be a huge improvement in gaming but I am sure when I run GTA IV with a lot of different programs open I wont need to close any to play the game at decent fps.

Also I know my video card might not be enough power for now but thats why I got a crossfire mobo, I will prolly end up selling this 5830 in a few months and buy a 5870, we'll see..
 
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no, but when running multiple GPUs it does.

1156 is restricted to 20 lanes of bandwidth, whereas 1366 can have up to 36 (or more in some cases)

no worries though, you still have a solid build. im just slightly concerned you have spent extra money for no reason. i doubt we will ever see quad channel memory (its not like other systems that simply grow outwards, performance is added by improving the RAM itself, not shoving more of it in a board), and im sure an i5 would multitask and be just as futureproof as an i7.

like i said though, its still a great build. and i am sure you will enjoy it. you certainly won't be lacking in performance
 
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I know I spent more money then I needed but I just feel a lot more comfortable getting this mostly for future use. I can't wait to see this on my porch step, I am hoping the stock heatsink will run ok, I plan to get an aftermarket cooler but I wanted to save up some more money before. I will get one if it's crucial.

I have heard of some people running stock heatsinks okay, and others where the cpu overheats. Why would intel ship out a heatsink that doesn't work? it seems like they would want to be extra careful when it comes to cooling so not as many cpu's degrade.. I hear people having temps up to 85C under load, and many people who have to disable hyperthreading / turbo mode..

what do you think? why does intel do this? did they not run any tests before they packages this stuff together?
 
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usually if its overheating at stock clocks that means that either the case has poor airflow or the TIM has been applied badly. neither of these would be intels fault.

the stock heatsink is designed to cool the stock chip, and it should be fine for that. but it is not designed for overclocking, and people who overclock on the stock heatsink are asking for trouble.
 
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I dont think an i5 would be as future proof as it doesnt have hyperthreading and the 1156 boards just seem old and cant run the new 6 cores on em :/ I saw some benchmarks , they work out good. How come they out perform a lot of other i7's? because it doesnt have hyperthreading?? cant you disable hyperthreading on all i7's and overclock the 930 to beat it?

Wont it be smart going with the 930 if I do a lot of multi tasking, I use dual monitors, soon to be 3 with eye finity, I usually am doing a lot of things at once, normally when I game I disable everything, sometimes explorer, do you think the i7 will help with this?
 
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