What I need to run 240fps consistently

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I am looking to pick up the new Asus ROG SWIFT PG258Q https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/rog-swift-pg258q/

This monitor runs at 240hz at 1920x1080, and I want a consistant 240fps or above to be able to get the full 240hz at all gaming session. Now I will be using a GTX 1080 TI (when that releases shortly)

Short of that I have the following:
i7 6core, 3930K 3.2ghz
16G ddr3 233mhz ram
500G Samsung 850 Evo SSD
1000w Powersupply
H100 cooler
Windows 7 Home (looking to upgrade to windows 10)


Will i be able to do this with no problems?
 
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I mean it depends on the game and how well optimized it is, super high frame rates are going to be limited mostly by your CPU and, in some games, it might just not be possible to get 240 fps. In CS:GO you can do that with a GTX 750 ti, but for games like Battlefield 1 it's going to be very difficult at higher settings and there might not be a single cpu on the market that has powerful enough cores to do it. My personal advice would be to just overclock the 3930k as much as you possibly can and tune your games from there. There's no magical setup that will just "always give you 240fps in AAA titles."
 
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Well i don't think my CPU is going to be the issue as running the 1920x1080 on low settings will be fine... I just wanted to go more input on that and the gtx card for it. Has anyone done this with any different set ups, weaker or better?
 
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Overclock your i7-3930K. If the overclocked CPU does not bottleneck, then you may consider a 2nd GTX 1080 Ti, and placing it into SLI configuration. But try one GPU first and see how many FPS you achieve. If the CPU does bottleneck, then you may consider switching to a new i7 Kaby lake platform and compatible chipset/motherboard.

By the way, what is the manufacturer and model # of your 1,000 watt power supply?
 
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Corsair Professional HX1000W, atx 12v, 80A, 24pin atx modular power supply. ACTIVE pfc 140MM FAN. Well the new asus 240hz monitor is g-sync and I've learned from them that gtx 1080 will work with it. Now it comes down to my CPU set up.
 
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Sounds cool. Any response that you receive will be speculation, as no one has hands-on experience with the PG258Q. Even with two 1080 Ti's (or two Titan XP's) I'm doubtful that you'll achieve 1080p @ 240 FPS w/ ultra graphics, but it sure sounds like fun to try. Overwatch would be a good title to strive for 240 FPS.
 
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I think a single 1080 will be adequate for this setup if you're not cranking the settings, but a 1080 ti or SLI 1080s would obviously relieve some pressure on the cpu with higher graphical settings, it's just that the benefits of SLI are so small compared to the additional cost. If you want the absolute best chance at being able to hold 240fps in most games, the best thing to do would be to get a 6700k and overclock the balls off of it, then just tune your in game settings to the exact point that your CPU starts becoming the bottleneck instead of the video card. I feel like 160fps+ G-Sync is going to be the smoothest possible experience regardless of what you're doing though.
 
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The thing is i don't really need ultra graphics.. i'm hoping my cpu will be good enough.. I also honstely don't think the 6700 is that much powerful than my 3930k 6core.
 
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Now let's say if I only get to 180-200fps,, as I don't want to blow everything up overclocking.. what will happen, i'm assuming the g-synch will allow the same refresh rate on the monitor and just live with room to grow?
 
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Everyone is overthinking this including myself IMO, just get a GTX 1080 or wait for the 1080 ti and overclock your CPU. Like rcald said no one has experience with that monitor or 240hz, it's just that with our rigs that aren't absolutely godlike we've all struggled to hold 144fps let alone 240 so we're just listing off whatever is the best available hardware. Whatever experience you get with an OC'ed 3930k and GTX 1080/ti is gonna be so close to what you get spending twice as much money that it's not really worth overthinking. Just play the game.
 
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G-sync 240hz means that the monitor updates each time the graphics card sends out a frame limited to 240hz. If your card is pushing out 180fps, your screen will run at 180hz and same for 240/240. So essentially yes you have room to grow.

EDIT: The 6700k is actually pretty significantly more powerful core by core than the 3930k.
 
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I think that makes sense Chemmajorp. I was hoping someone could maybe list what fps they can get at and what rigs they have.. i mean the 3930k is still 4 years old but a strong CPU. I'm just somewhat hesitant in overclocking it, as I know it can go up to 5.4ghz but it takes a shit ton of voltage and i've had some issues overclocking becuase i dont really know what i'm doing.
 
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If you want to do it the easy way, set the core voltage to 1.3 (the highest recommended by Intel to not incur long term damage) and step up the multiplier until it crashes while loading windows, then reduce the multiplier by 1 and stress test. If it crashes during use then step it down by 1 again.
 
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Ok i'll have to look up what this multiplier is, like i said I tried the presets but then i get a crash.. I believe it was something about my ram getting overclocked too.. thanks for the answers
 
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Doing the auto overclocking often changes the base clock a bit, which changes how fast EVERYTHING in your system runs (RAM, hard drives, chipset, wifi cards...). Maybe the CPU is stable at that, maybe the RAM isn't, which is why it's usually better to do it yourself in my experience and not change the base clock if you're not experienced with changing RAM timings and such. There are only 3 things that you need to know for basic overclocking: base clock, multiplier, and core voltage. The base clock is the rate at which your system itself runs at and the multiplier is how many cycles per base cycle your CPU is running at. The most common base clock is 100MHz, so if you have a multiplier of 40, your CPU is running at 4000MHz or 4GHz. Each CPU has a different core voltage necessary to push as many cycles as you're asking of it based on the purity of the silicon and quality of the transistors inside, so it's usually best to pick a core voltage that you're comfortable with and not exceed that since diminishing returns at massive power draw kicks in very soon after the max recommended voltage from the manufacturer in most cases.
 
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In regards to a 240hz monitor this is the reply I got from the developer themselves
Its hard that PC maker to promise the certain fps reflects to Hz (monitor), also because it fluctuates in games depending on the rendering capacity.
From the spec. I think it should be fine, but to make sure I suggested that you can check the fps in CS:GO by using the command “net_graphc e” to see whether it goes up to 240fps.
Can anyone do this ?
 
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Just because the monitor is capable of 240hz, does not in any way mean you need to run 240 FPS to get the most out of it. There are multiple benefits to that refresh rate:
1) Even without V/G-sync, it refreshes so fast, you'd barely see tearing.
2) With G-sync, you are now capable of up to 240 FPS before G-sync no longer functions.
3) With G-sync at sub 240 FPS, it is capable of displaying frames which are rendered in less than 7ms even when the average is higher. This keeps the displaying of frames closer to exact pace the GPU renders them.
4) can reduce latency a tiny bit.

The biggest problem with hitting 240 FPS is the CPU in most cases. You can always drop settings to the lowest possible with a decent GPU and you'd be CPU bottlenecked. The CPU will almost always hold you back, except in a few games like CS:GO.
 
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Very interesting so I'll see an advantage with no input lag and response time and all that with the "For Honor" game. At least I'm hoping lol. How would I find out if I will get that is there anything that would tell me with the game or specifications ?

and for other games like overwatch or heroes of the storm I think I will see a difference in ultra settings with response time and no lag no input. I still don't think this CPU will be bottleneckong with a 1080TI. I think maybe upgrading cooling system would do wonders but I don't know how much more than my corasair h100.
Thanks for input guys Bystander do you see any other benefits with running fps higher than the max refresh rate on the monitor so 300fps game on 240hz monitor ? Would that equal even better response time ??
 
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That depends on how you play. If you turn everything up, including high levels of AA, then the CPU might not bottleneck you, depending on the game. If you use settings that allow 240 FPS, your CPU (any CPU) will bottleneck you in 95% of all games. Even 144 FPS will cause most CPU's to be the bottleneck in many if not most games.

Most games are not designed to hit those FPS. CS games are about the only games designed to go to such high FPS. Most any other game that allows it, gets there by accident. This is because most people have 60hz monitors, and there 120hz was pretty much the fastest monitors until recently, which have pushed to 144hz and 165hz.
 
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I agree with basically everything here, very few games will run at 240 fps regardless of the CPU power you have, ultimately the CPU has to do work to pass off to the GPU to render things & in most games no CPU in existence can do the work needed quick enough for 240fps. Game engines really weren't designed to go that fast.
As someone above said, your best chance is a maximally overclocked 6700k, & that's exactly why I have a 6700k@4.7GHz. I spent ages deciding between that & the 5820k at the time but I wanted the fastest possible single thread performance for games so that guided my decision.

On a personal opinion note, I have a 144Hz gsync screen & I really can't see a need for more than 144Hz, but then I've not tried 240Hz so who knows...

One last thing, is it a genuine 240Hz or a sneaky doubling via interpolation of some sort?
 
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It sounds like it will be a real 240hz screen. It is designed for PC's, not TV's, but I agree it likely won't be very noticeable. I think CS:GO will make good use of it, and if he ever switches to AMD, 240hz will run great without V-sync. The refresh will be so fast, that tearing will be very hard to notice.
 
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I have a 5930K over clocked to 4.2 ghz and sli gtx 970's and I'm able to achieve 240 fps no problem in csgo @1080p. I have a 165hz GSYNC monitor and it runs completely smooth even at 1440p going over 165fps. Nothing like it. If I were you I would just get one piece of hardware at a time till you reach your goal. Starting with the monitor because either way thats a sick monitor. Then the video card and so on.
 
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