For a computer that is going to cost 500$ what is a killer cpu. Should I go with amd or intel. My purpose for it would be simple gaming, a little video editing, and streaming just to give you an idea
Take the best qualities of the i3 and the FX-6300 and mash them together and you get an Athlon 860K. Overclocked to 4.5GHz the Athlon 860K actually catches the i5-4590 as well.
Can you post your benchmarks?
Sure, these are my personal ones. If you want to see the the thread with a larger sample of users, it's here.
Are any of the following included in the $500 budget:
Operating System (i.e. Windows)
Keyboard
Mouse
Monitor
just the operating system, windows 7. Unless I can get it from someone for free. So if you can show me what I could get if I were to not buy the operating system and if I were to.
^ it depends on your exact usage - the 6300 is a workhorse ,for real heavy duty video encoding & depending on software used it will eat the i3.
For general use ,pretty much nothing.they're both good $100 chips - the i3 has stronger single core performance but if gaming is not the number 1 priority you wouldn't really notice the difference.
The i3 is cooler,more efficient & offers a better upgrade path for the future.
CPU:AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.17 @ Amazon) Total: $74.17 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-13 02:12 EST-0500
How does it perform performing a multitude of tasks? meaning do those other ones mentioned beat it out in any particular areas? I'm just trying to get a further understanding of what makes it a more solid competitor
Take the best qualities of the i3 and the FX-6300 and mash them together and you get an Athlon 860K. Overclocked to 4.5GHz the Athlon 860K actually catches the i5-4590 as well.
CPU:AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.17 @ Amazon) Total: $74.17 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-13 02:12 EST-0500
How does it perform performing a multitude of tasks? meaning do those other ones mentioned beat it out in any particular areas? I'm just trying to get a further understanding of what makes it a more solid competitor
all three of them perform exactly the same.. if u do some video editing.. the 6 cores will have silight edge over there.. in gaming all three are same.. for daily multitasking "i3" as it does have higher single core performance ..
Take the best qualities of the i3 and the FX-6300 and mash them together and you get an Athlon 860K. Overclocked to 4.5GHz the Athlon 860K actually catches the i5-4590 as well.
CPU:AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.17 @ Amazon) Total: $74.17 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-13 02:12 EST-0500
How does it perform performing a multitude of tasks? meaning do those other ones mentioned beat it out in any particular areas? I'm just trying to get a further understanding of what makes it a more solid competitor
all three of them perform exactly the same.. if u do some video editing.. the 6 cores will have silight edge over there.. in gaming all three are same.. for daily multitasking "i3" as it does have higher single core performance ..
Whats to say if I weren't looking to overclock my cpu, would it still be ok to go down the amd path, or would you recommend an intel of some kind?
CPU:AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.17 @ Amazon) Total: $74.17 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-13 02:12 EST-0500
How does it perform performing a multitude of tasks? meaning do those other ones mentioned beat it out in any particular areas? I'm just trying to get a further understanding of what makes it a more solid competitor
all three of them perform exactly the same.. if u do some video editing.. the 6 cores will have silight edge over there.. in gaming all three are same.. for daily multitasking "i3" as it does have higher single core performance ..
do you classify multitasking as just watching HD video, schoolwork, maybe a little editing, and stuff like that?
Take the best qualities of the i3 and the FX-6300 and mash them together and you get an Athlon 860K. Overclocked to 4.5GHz the Athlon 860K actually catches the i5-4590 as well.
CPU:AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.17 @ Amazon) Total: $74.17 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-13 02:12 EST-0500
How does it perform performing a multitude of tasks? meaning do those other ones mentioned beat it out in any particular areas? I'm just trying to get a further understanding of what makes it a more solid competitor
all three of them perform exactly the same.. if u do some video editing.. the 6 cores will have silight edge over there.. in gaming all three are same.. for daily multitasking "i3" as it does have higher single core performance ..
Whats to say if I weren't looking to overclock my cpu, would it still be ok to go down the amd path, or would you recommend an intel of some kind?
6300 might beat an i3 if its overclocked.. if not both are same.. as u are not considering overclocking.. neither would be a wrong option.. im a little on the side i3 though..
If definely NOT overclocking, the i3 is probably the safest choice.
Don't even consider the FX-6300 if not overclocking. They suck so bad at stock.
The 860K still turbos to 4GHz at stock and is still faster than the FX-6300. It's based on steamroller, a generation ahead of the old piledriver FX.
Well I have a friend knows a bit about overclocking, would it be ok to get an amd card and have his set up a basic overclock and just leave it at that, or should I not risk it and just stick with something stock?
If definely NOT overclocking, the i3 is probably the safest choice.
Don't even consider the FX-6300 if not overclocking. They suck so bad at stock.
The 860K still turbos to 4GHz at stock and is still faster than the FX-6300. It's based on steamroller, a generation ahead of the old piledriver FX.
Well I have a friend knows a bit about overclocking, would it be ok to get an amd card and have his set up a basic overclock and just leave it at that, or should I not risk it and just stick with something stock?
on the stock cooler dont consider overclocking.. u must get an after market cooler.. if that is ok with you.. then u can overclock it perfectly.. dont go crazy over it.. or u will end up in smoke..
I literally have owned all of these CPUs at one time or another, lol. I still have my i3 and 860K though.
I like the thought of having an amd card, but I feel I would need to learn a lot more about overclocking to get one. Also just curious is the setup basically the same with intel as with amd. My friend would be setting up the software and navigating through the bios. He's had a fair bit of experience with Intel, but I don't think hes experienced with amd at all, could he manage?
I'll put it to you this way. I always overclock my own stuff, so I buy slightly lower end AMD stuff and get more than my money's worth out of it. It can be a lot of work though. But for me I love this sort of thing.
Now my wife's computer. I keep her's all stock. That's where I put the Haswell i3.
If definely NOT overclocking, the i3 is probably the safest choice.
Don't even consider the FX-6300 if not overclocking. They suck so bad at stock.
The 860K still turbos to 4GHz at stock and is still faster than the FX-6300. It's based on steamroller, a generation ahead of the old piledriver FX.
Well I have a friend knows a bit about overclocking, would it be ok to get an amd card and have his set up a basic overclock and just leave it at that, or should I not risk it and just stick with something stock?
on the stock cooler dont consider overclocking.. u must get an after market cooler.. if that is ok with you.. then u can overclock it perfectly.. dont go crazy over it.. or u will end up in smoke..
Could I just plant the aftermarket cooler on it and not worry about it, or would I always need to worry about cooling and overheating and the like?
I'll put it to you this way. I always overclock my own stuff, so I buy slightly lower end AMD stuff and get more than my money's worth out of it. It can be a lot of work though. But for me I love this sort of thing.
Now my wife's computer. I keep her's all stock. That's where I put the Haswell i3.
Ok so what you are saying is if you don't want to fuss with it at all get the i3, but if you want to get down and dirty get an amd?
If definely NOT overclocking, the i3 is probably the safest choice.
Don't even consider the FX-6300 if not overclocking. They suck so bad at stock.
The 860K still turbos to 4GHz at stock and is still faster than the FX-6300. It's based on steamroller, a generation ahead of the old piledriver FX.
Well I have a friend knows a bit about overclocking, would it be ok to get an amd card and have his set up a basic overclock and just leave it at that, or should I not risk it and just stick with something stock?
on the stock cooler dont consider overclocking.. u must get an after market cooler.. if that is ok with you.. then u can overclock it perfectly.. dont go crazy over it.. or u will end up in smoke..
Could I just plant the aftermarket cooler on it and not worry about it, or would I always need to worry about cooling and overheating and the like?
stock cooler is perfect with stock speeds.. after market is over kill for stock speeds.. aftermarket coolers depend on how much u overclock it..
If definely NOT overclocking, the i3 is probably the safest choice.
Don't even consider the FX-6300 if not overclocking. They suck so bad at stock.
The 860K still turbos to 4GHz at stock and is still faster than the FX-6300. It's based on steamroller, a generation ahead of the old piledriver FX.
Well I have a friend knows a bit about overclocking, would it be ok to get an amd card and have his set up a basic overclock and just leave it at that, or should I not risk it and just stick with something stock?
on the stock cooler dont consider overclocking.. u must get an after market cooler.. if that is ok with you.. then u can overclock it perfectly.. dont go crazy over it.. or u will end up in smoke..
Could I just plant the aftermarket cooler on it and not worry about it, or would I always need to worry about cooling and overheating and the like?
You don't have to worry about it with the i3. The FX-6300 needs a good cooler ($40) and good VRM motherboard ($100) to overclock or you will burn up. You can use a 4 phase VRM mobo with the Athlon and a ($20) aftermaket cooler for overclocking.
The 860k is a nice chip for the money - better than the 6300 though? Definitely not IMO.
Even at stock the 6300 is a far stronger CPU,hence the price difference.
If you want cheap the 860k is a very good buy - the main problem is that its a lottery on whether the fm2+ board you buy to go with it will support it without a bios update.
seeing as you need a compatible CPU fitted to do a bios update it is a major concern for anyone considering buying one- the 860k is nearly a year old ,this issue should have been sorted by now but unfortunately there's still a mass of stock of compatible motherboards about with outdated bios's.
Concerns with the 6300 - you don't need to over clock to get good performance - it performs well at stock speeds.
really you need to consider an aftermarket cooler at $15 or so as the amd ones supplied with it are barely capable & noisy.
You also need a semi decent motherboard which generally retail for $20 or so than a comparable fm2+ or intel board.
No real upgrade path although on a general purpose rig it'll probably last you a long time performance wise.
The i3 - no real weaknesses at the moment ,cheap but decent motherboards are available ,an upgrade path to any other haswell chip is a future option.multithreading not as good as the amd chips obviously but the hyperthreading does do a decent job.