Question What is better to upgrade?

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Hi!

I am thinking about upgrading my pc.
Should I upgrade the GPU from GTX970 to 1070 or change the motherboard to one that supports ddr4 and upgrade the cpu from i5-3570k to i5-7500.
(Suggestions for CPU are welcome would like to stay on LGA1151)
Thank u in advance!
 
Well, firstly there is no point in upgrading from the 3570k to the 7500. It's a sidegrade more than anything and will not yield much of a performance boost. FOr the best results in FPS, obviously the way to go is a GPU upgrade. Whilst I wouldn't say that's a bad option (you will get a bump in performance), your current CPU, and the proposed one will bottleneck the new GPU in CPU intensive games. Games like BF V or anything new AAA will suffer with the 4c/4t CPU's you are thinking of.

For being relative, you really need a platform upgrade sooner than a CPU/GPU upgrade for your dated mobo.

If you are gaming on 1080p/60hz, I'd say spend the money on a new platform, keep your current GPU for a while until you can then afford an upgrade, and have a CPU and system capable of giving you what you want.

A Ryzen based system like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.68 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $308.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 13:53 EST-0500


or Intel system like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $315.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 13:54 EST-0500


Add your current GPU to this, along with SSD/HDD and then decide down the line to get another GPU. AKA RTX2060 Super.
 
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Hi!

I am thinking about upgrading my pc.
Should I upgrade the GPU from GTX970 to 1070 or change the motherboard to one that supports ddr4 and upgrade the cpu from i5-3570k to i5-7500.
(Suggestions for CPU are welcome would like to stay on LGA1151)
Thank u in advance!
Hey. What's your budget? I would definitely upgrade CPU, Motherboard and RAM before your GPU. I have a 970 and it still runs fine. Also it might be worth switching to AMD and going the AM4 route. something like a 2600x would do you great. Maybe even a 3600. Send me ur current PC specs through a PCPartPicker list and I will see what I can do. Don't forget to include a budget as well ;)
 
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Well, firstly there is no point in upgrading from the 3570k to the 7500. It's a sidegrade more than anything and will not yield much of a performance boost. FOr the best results in FPS, obviously the way to go is a GPU upgrade. Whilst I wouldn't say that's a bad option (you will get a bump in performance), your current CPU, and the proposed one will bottleneck the new GPU in CPU intensive games. Games like BF V or anything new AAA will suffer with the 4c/4t CPU's you are thinking of.

For being relative, you really need a platform upgrade sooner than a CPU/GPU upgrade for your dated mobo.

If you are gaming on 1080p/60hz, I'd say spend the money on a new platform, keep your current GPU for a while until you can then afford an upgrade, and have a CPU and system capable of giving you what you want.

A Ryzen based system like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.68 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $308.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 13:53 EST-0500


or Intel system like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($90.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $315.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 13:54 EST-0500


Add your current GPU to this, along with SSD/HDD and then decide down the line to get another GPU. AKA RTX2060 Super.
I am now thinking to buy a i5 9400f and an Asus Rog Strix B360F or H370F. I am not sure what the difference between this two are if somebody could explain.
 
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Hey. What's your budget? I would definitely upgrade CPU, Motherboard and RAM before your GPU. I have a 970 and it still runs fine. Also it might be worth switching to AMD and going the AM4 route. something like a 2600x would do you great. Maybe even a 3600. Send me ur current PC specs through a PCPartPicker list and I will see what I can do. Don't forget to include a budget as well ;)
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dctDx6

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($317.86 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i v2 70.69 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($205.54 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Samsung 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Memory: Samsung 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($28.50 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4 GB AMP! Omega Core Edition Video Card
Power Supply: Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite Full Range 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($89.86 @ Amazon)
Total: $681.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-12 18:15 EST-0500

Thank u for taking the time! :)
 

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I am now thinking to buy a i5 9400f and an Asus Rog Strix B360F or H370F. I am not sure what the difference between this two are if somebody could explain.
I5 9400f technically might edge out the 2600 while gaming but a lot of benchmarks that compare the 2 are going to be running nothing less than a 1080ti so the difference with a mid tier gpu would be less. Also 6 cores might be the minimum to build with now but it might be nice to have those 6 extra threads, games in a year or so might start utilising and optimising for multithreads more.
 
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Should I upgrade the GPU from GTX970 to 1070...
Another thing worth pointing out is that a GTX 1070 is previous-gen hardware at this point, and generally won't provide optimal value if buying new. A 1070 typically performs similar to the newer GTX 1660 Ti, which launched for US $280 around nine months ago, and a few models can even be found for around $250 now. The even more recent GTX 1660 SUPER that launched a couple weeks back performs just slightly below the 1660 Ti, but has only a $230 MSRP.

The only way a 1070 might be worth considering at this point is if you were to happen to find one new for under $250, or possibly used/refurbished for under $200 (since you won't likely be getting much of a warranty on pre-owned hardware).
 
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What would be the better choice now:
  • Ryzen 2600x and Asus rog strx x470-F
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  • Intel i5 9400f and asus rog strix H370f
First one as you need to upgrade your RAM. 16GB @3000mhz is the minimum I would go. 9400f would have more FPS, but 6c/12t as a pose to the 9400f's 6c/6t. And a lot more upgrades available
 
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Of those two definitely the Ryzen 2600x with the X470 motherboard. With that you could theoretically upgrade all the way up to the Ryzen 9 in the future. The X470 board also supports RAM up to 3466 MHz, as opposed to the H370 that the Intel CPU requires which only supports up to 2666MHz.
 
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Definitely the Ryzen 2600x with the X470 motherboard. With that you could theoretically upgrade all the way up to the Ryzen 9 in the future. The X470 board also supports RAM up to 3466 MHz, as opposed to the H370 that the Intel CPU requires which only supports up to 2666MHz.
Thank you. I am going to go with the AMD then.
I have read somewhere tho that the ryzen 7 5000 series will have a new socket.
 
What would be the better choice now:
  • Ryzen 2600x and Asus rog strx x470-F
    or
  • Intel i5 9400f and asus rog strix H370f
I would say neither, actually. It's probably not the best option to pair a $150 2600X with a $170 motherboard, unless perhaps that motherboard has some features you absolutely need that are not available on less expensive boards.

If you spending over $300 on a CPU/motherboard combo, it would make more sense to go with a Ryzen 3600 with a somewhat less expensive board, as that processor can offer up to around 15% more performance in CPU-limited scenarios than a 2600X, while the choice of motherboard should have very little impact on performance. The performance difference in today's games will tend to be lower than that, but you should still be getting more performance for your money from that than from spending a lot on a higher-end motherboard.
 

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I would say neither, actually. It's probably not the best option to pair a $150 2600X with a $170 motherboard, unless perhaps that motherboard has some features you absolutely need that are not available on less expensive boards.

If you spending over $300 on a CPU/motherboard combo, it would make more sense to go with a Ryzen 3600 with a somewhat less expensive board, as that processor can offer up to around 15% more performance in CPU-limited scenarios than a 2600X, while the choice of motherboard should have very little impact on performance. The performance difference in today's games will tend to be lower than that, but you should still be getting more performance for your money from that than from spending a lot on a higher-end motherboard.
If he wants to overclock however, x470 would be a much smarter option, would it not? Even it is a lower end x470
 
If he wants to overclock however, x470 would be a much smarter option, would it not? Even it is a lower end x470
Not really. A Ryzen 2600X doesn't offer much overclocking headroom. A 3600 doesn't either, but even at stock settings, it's going to be faster than an overclocked 2600X. And B450 boards are overclocking-capable too. If the goal is to get the most performance for one's money, than the 3600 with a less expensive board would likely be the better option, at least in this price range.
 

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