What is the best Nvidia GTX 970 brand?

[arkutakalin]

I will buy a new GTX 970 for my new system, however I am between MSI, Gigabyte or Asus. I will use a intel core i7 4770 and 8 GB ram and want to play new generation games such as Unity with 60 FPS or close to 60 FPS with no problems.

I am thinking to buy a MSI Gaming GTX 970 4G, however some say card has coil whine problems. And a lot of people say Gigabyte G1 GTX 970 is the best 970 card among them regarding its speed, low fan sound and etc...

Which is the best one to pick?
(I will not buy EVGA, Zotac and etc)

 

[arkutakalin]

If only gaming (and not any other multi-threading video work), what is the reason for i7? i5-4690K would be great for gaming and costs less.

Many games can use Hyper-Threading (HT), and I'm sure he'll use the computer for something other than games that can also use HT.

I am a researcher, having PhD in the branch of Nuclear Chemistry in Academy. Some of our programs Works better with core i7 and my pc is 7 years old, the time has come to buy a powerful pc.

 

[Eggz]

If only gaming (and not any other multi-threading video work), what is the reason for i7? i5-4690K would be great for gaming and costs less.

Many games can use Hyper-Threading (HT), and I'm sure he'll use the computer for something other than games that can also use HT.

I am a researcher, having PhD in the branch of Nuclear Chemistry in Academy. Some of our programs Works better with core i7 and my pc is 7 years old, the time has come to buy a powerful pc.

I'd certainly say so!

If you can find the i7-4790 or 4790k for about the same price as the 4770 or 4770k, get the 4790. It's a little better and runs cooler - essentially an improved 4770. You'll need a motherboard with a Z97 chipset, though, as opposed to a Z87. For the same or similar price, might as well go with the newer one.

 

[arkutakalin]

If only gaming (and not any other multi-threading video work), what is the reason for i7? i5-4690K would be great for gaming and costs less.

Many games can use Hyper-Threading (HT), and I'm sure he'll use the computer for something other than games that can also use HT.

I am a researcher, having PhD in the branch of Nuclear Chemistry in Academy. Some of our programs Works better with core i7 and my pc is 7 years old, the time has come to buy a powerful pc.

I'd certainly say so!

If you can find the i7-4790 or 4790k for about the same price as the 4770 or 4770k, get the 4790. It's a little better and runs cooler - essentially an improved 4770. You'll need a motherboard with a Z97 chipset, though, as opposed to a Z87. For the same or similar price, might as well go with the newer one.

If I buy a new core i7 4790 with Gigabyte Z97 motherboard including Gigabyte G1 GTX 970, will it become a powerful pc?
I suppose it will become a beast pc for gaming and work

 

[Eggz]

If I buy a new core i7 4790 with Gigabyte Z97 motherboard including Gigabyte G1 GTX 970, will it become a powerful pc?
I suppose it will become a beast pc for gaming and work

It will be one of the most powerful mainstream computers. The only way to go faster would be to get a larger socket. The chips you're considering are on the modern socket with 1150 pins (LGA1150), which is the smaller option from Intel. The fastest CPU on LGA 1150 is the 4790k, which has 4 hyper-threaded cores (i.e. Windows thinks there are 8 cores). The "k" means the multiplier is unlocked so you can manually turn up the CPU's speed higher than the standard 4.0 Ghz.

To get a more powerful CPU than that, your only option would be to get a CPU on the larger socket with 2011 pins (LGA2011-3). There are three non-Xeon chips (all i7 CPUs) that fit that chip: 5820k, 5930k, and 5960x. Each is more powerful than the 4790k in most cases. They also allow you to run more things from the PCI-e slots (e.g. video cards, sound cards, RAID cards, TV-Tuner cards, whatever cards). The 4790k can run the least PCI-e cards, then the 5820k, and then the others run the most. In terms of cores, the 4790k has four, the 5820k and 5930k have six, and the 5960x has 8 (all have hyper threading, so Windows will think there are twice as many cores).

There's generally no need to spend the extra money on stepping up to the 2011-3 socket for people who just game and do non-professional rendering. The primary exception is for gamers who use more than 2 video cards in SLI. The 4790k allows 2 videos cards, but nothing else in the PCI-e sockets. The 5820k allows 3 video cards with another small add-on card, and the other CPUs allow 4 video cards with two additional add-on cards. There are other things you can stack in the PCI-e slots, but I'm talking about reasons gamers might buy the LGA2011-3 CPUs.

If you have no add-in cards besides graphics, just get the 4790k. It's fine and will allow two high-end GPUs. Plus it's generally better for gaming. When you add more cores to a CPU, they have to be slowed down so they don't overheat. That means that each core on the the 4790k is faster than any core you'll find on an LGA2011-3 CPU. People pay for extra cores only when their software knows how to use them, and games generally can't use more CPU cores (or threads from Hyper-Threading) than the 4790k has. I think it's the best CPU in existence for a gaming-only machine.

 

[arkutakalin]

If I buy a new core i7 4790 with Gigabyte Z97 motherboard including Gigabyte G1 GTX 970, will it become a powerful pc?
I suppose it will become a beast pc for gaming and work

It will be one of the most powerful mainstream computers. The only way to go faster would be to get a larger socket. The chips you're considering are on the modern socket with 1150 pins (LGA1150), which is the smaller option from Intel. The fastest CPU on LGA 1150 is the 4790k, which has 4 hyper-threaded cores (i.e. Windows thinks there are 8 cores). The "k" means the multiplier is unlocked so you can manually turn up the CPU's speed higher than the standard 4.0 Ghz.

To get a more powerful CPU than that, your only option would be to get a CPU on the larger socket with 2011 pins (LGA2011-3). There are three non-Xeon chips (all i7 CPUs) that fit that chip: 5820k, 5930k, and 5960x. Each is more powerful than the 4790k in most cases. They also allow you to run more things from the PCI-e slots (e.g. video cards, sound cards, RAID cards, TV-Tuner cards, whatever cards). The 4790k can run the least PCI-e cards, then the 5820k, and then the others run the most. In terms of cores, the 4790k has four, the 5820k and 5930k have six, and the 5960x has 8 (all have hyper threading, so Windows will think there are twice as many cores).

There's generally no need to spend the extra money on stepping up to the 2011-3 socket for people who just game and do non-professional rendering. The primary exception is for gamers who use more than 2 video cards in SLI. The 4790k allows 2 videos cards, but nothing else in the PCI-e sockets. The 5820k allows 3 video cards with another small add-on card, and the other CPUs allow 4 video cards with two additional add-on cards. There are other things you can stack in the PCI-e slots, but I'm talking about reasons gamers might buy the LGA2011-3 CPUs.

If you have no add-in cards besides graphics, just get the 4790k. It's fine and will allow two high-end GPUs. Plus it's generally better for gaming. When you add more cores to a CPU, they have to be slowed down so they don't overheat. That means that each core on the the 4790k is faster than any core you'll find on an LGA2011-3 CPU. People pay for extra cores only when their software knows how to use them, and games generally can't use more CPU cores (or threads from Hyper-Threading) than the 4790k has. I think it's the best CPU in existence for a gaming-only machine.

Great information really thank you.
However I will buy a 4790 not "k", as I will not overclock my pc.
But I suppose 4790 will be enough.

 

[Eggz]

Great information really thank you.
However I will buy a 4790 not "k", as I will not overclock my pc.
But I suppose 4790 will be enough.

Great option! You'll be good on that CPU for a while, and you'll be able to upgrade your GPU a few times before the CPU won't be fast enough to feed the GPU data as quickly as the GPU demands it.

If you really want to kill the graphics, get two of the cheapest 970s you can find. Even if each card is slightly slower than other 970s, two of them will be as fast as a Titan Z!

 

[arkutakalin]

Great information really thank you.
However I will buy a 4790 not "k", as I will not overclock my pc.
But I suppose 4790 will be enough.

Great option! You'll be good on that CPU for a while, and you'll be able to upgrade your GPU a few times before the CPU won't be fast enough to feed the GPU data as quickly as the GPU demands it.

If you really want to kill the graphics, get two of the cheapest 970s you can find. Even if each card is slightly slower than other 970s, two of them will be as fast as a Titan Z!

I can now afford only one GTX 970. So I will buy a single GPU for now.
I hope I will not encounter:

1- Very noisy fan sound
2-Overheating
3-Coil whine problem
4-Performance issues

With Gigabyte Windforce G1 GTX 970.

 

[Eggz]

I can now afford only one GTX 970. So I will buy a single GPU for now.
I hope I will not encounter:

1- Very noisy fan sound
2-Overheating
3-Coil whine problem
4-Performance issues

With Gigabyte Windforce G1 GTX 970.

You'll be good to go. Good luck, and enjoy the new PC!

 

[arkutakalin]

I can now afford only one GTX 970. So I will buy a single GPU for now.
I hope I will not encounter:

1- Very noisy fan sound
2-Overheating
3-Coil whine problem
4-Performance issues

With Gigabyte Windforce G1 GTX 970.

You'll be good to go. Good luck, and enjoy the new PC!

Thank you.
Is there a significant difference between Gigabyte G1 Gaming and Gigabyte Windforce GTX 970? What is the difference between them? They look nearly same.

 

[jafrankl]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%2050001314%20600536049&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=48%7C14-125-684%5E14-125-684-TS%2C14-125-685%5E14-125-685-TS&percm=14-125-684%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B14-125-685%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24

Slight differences in clock speeds is all. And price.

 

[Eggz]

Yeah, for only $30 more, I think I'd just go with the G1 gaming.

 

[arkutakalin]

Yeah, for only $30 more, I think I'd just go with the G1 gaming.

Thank you and one more important question.
I will buy a new Gigabyte windforce GTX 970 or Gaming G1 version.
Which motherboard will suit my pc best?
I will use a core i7 4770 or 4790?

 

[arkutakalin]

Yeah, for only $30 more, I think I'd just go with the G1 gaming.

Can I use this motherboard with G1 Gaming or windforce GTX 970?

GIGABYTE H97M-HD3 Intel H97 1150 DDR3 1600MHz HDMI&DVI

 

[Eggz]

It supports the card, but if you're going to use the 4790 or 4790k, then I'd stay away from that motherboard. It only supports up to 1600 Mhz DDR3, and the standard memory for those CPUs is 1866 Mhz.

Anything from this list will work better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%2050001314%2050001944%2050001312%2050001402%20600438202%20600491547&IsNodeId=1&name=EVGA&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=30

They start at $89, but I'd avoid anything with the old PCI slots. You only need PCI-e slots. Not a concern with most higher-end boards.

CORRECTION: The 4790 and 4790k support 1600 memory as a base standard

4790k - http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

4790 - http://ark.intel.com/products/80806/Intel-Core-i7-4790-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz

 

[arkutakalin]

It supports the card, but if you're going to use the 4790 or 4790k, then I'd stay away from that motherboard. It only supports up to 1600 Mhz DDR3, and the standard memory for those CPUs is 1866 Mhz.

Anything from this list will work better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%2050001315%2050001314%2050001944%2050001312%2050001402%20600438202%20600491547&IsNodeId=1&name=EVGA&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=30

They start at $89, but I'd avoid anything with the old PCI slots. You only need PCI-e slots. Not a concern with most higher-end boards.

CORRECTION: The 4790 and 4790k support 1600 memory as a base standard

4790k - http://ark.intel.com/products/80807/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_40-GHz

4790 - http://ark.intel.com/products/80806/Intel-Core-i7-4790-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz

I require that you recommend me a name of motherboard.
I do not have much knowledge about motherboards.
So your idea is important, just give a name or two of compatible motherboards with Gigabyte windforce and G1.

 

[Eggz]

Literally anything on there will work. What size do you need? It depends on the case you have. The one you originally linked will also work.

 

[arkutakalin]

Literally anything on there will work. What size do you need? It depends on the case you have. The one you originally linked will also work.

I will use a mid tower ATX case as I will pick Gigabyte GTX 970 windforce or Gaming G1. Size of Gigabyte GTX 970 is large so I should use an ATX case. But which motherboard? Actually I do not want to buy an expensive motherboard.

 

[Eggz]

Those cards will fit in even a console-sized mITX cases (e.g. ML07b, RVZ01B, etc.). You could actually put everything you listed in a small case like that, so long as you will use only one graphics card. If you want to use two GPUs, everything will fit in a mATX (e.g. BitFenix Prodigy M, 350D, Fractal Design Define Mini, Rosewill Legacy U3-S, etc.).

Either way, you'd still be able to cool everything adequately. Larger cases would mostly be empty with the stuff you listed.

If you want to see what's compatible yourself, just put your parts in www.PcPartPicker.com. It will limit your choices to what is compatible. Very useful.

 

[arkutakalin]

Literally anything on there will work. What size do you need? It depends on the case you have. The one you originally linked will also work.

I need your help here,
Are these motherboards and cases suitable for Gigabyte GTX 970 windforce/G1 gaming?

Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 Intel Z97 3000MHz(OC) DDR3 LGA1150

MSI Z97-G43 Intel Z97 3000MHz(OC) DDR3 LGA1150 ATX

Thermaltake V3 600W USB 3.0 Mid tower case

Gigabyte Setto 1024 550 W Mid tower case

Gigabyte Setto 1000 550 W Mid tower case

 

[Eggz]

Looks like we were writing posts at the same time. See the entry I made just before your last one. I think it will help get you a lot of the information you're looking for.

While the motherboards and cases you posted are all compatible with each other and the 970s, I think you'll find more variety than you originally expected by looking through the information and links in my last post.

 

[arkutakalin]

Looks like we were writing posts at the same time. See the entry I made just before your last one. I think it will help get you a lot of the information you're looking for.

While the motherboards and cases you posted are all compatible with each other and the 970s, I think you'll find more variety than you originally expected by looking through the information and links in my last post.

I have seen your last post a few minutes ago.
You helped me so much my friend, really thank you.

 

[Eggz]

Glad to help. Lemmy know what you decide on. Good luck!