what is the diffrence between i5 4960k and the i5 4960 besides bein able to overclock with the i5 4960k

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im wondering if i should get the i5 4960 because i don't plan on overclocking it and it is cheaper then the 4960k
 

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why those 2 and not the 4690k?
 

jmonarch

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Newegg has the 4690 for $209.99 and the "k" is $239.99. The 4460 is 3.2 GHz and $189.99 and the 4590 is 3.3 GHz and $199.99. The 4690 and 4690k are both 3.5GHz. I would get the 4690 if you are not going to OC it.
 

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The i5 4460 is $174 from two different reputable sites.
The i5 4590 is $184 from two reputable sites and it's $159 if you live near a microcenter.
The i5 4690 is $205

There is NO way I would pay an extra $20-30 for the 4690. The 4460 is probably the best value.


Check out partpicker.com and sort to LGA1150 i5 and you'll see what I'm saying.
 

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which one would be the best for gaming cuz i have a r9 290x i wanna use
 

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They all have basically an almost identical performance - you won't notice the difference. That's why generally, if you don't overclock, the 4460 is the preferred choice.
 

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I just checked Newegg quickly and that was a $10 diff. if it's more than that then I would go with the 4590. If you live near a Micro Center they do always have the best CPU pricing, agreed. As far as gaming you shouldn't notice much difference as most of the games now are very GPU heavy and if you are running a 290x you should be fine.
 
To answer the original question, no difference. Same chip, the 'k' has the unlocked multiplier. If not overclocking, the 4460 is probably the better value. Typically the reason for getting a 'k' version is to overclock it and that's where the cost is worth it. If comparing the 4460 price and performance to the 4690k (only if overclocking), right now on pcpartpicker it's showing a $40 usd difference. The 4460 is at 3.2ghz, the 4690k will hit 4.6ghz most of the time (some a tad slower, some a little faster).

The 4460 breakdown cost per ghz of speed is $54.69/ghz. The 4690k oc'd is $46.74/ghz and in cases where the extra speed is needed will give the raw performance the 4460 or 4590 can't. The 4690 (non k) at stock comes out to $60/ghz and is only slightly faster than the 4460.
 

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The 4460 has a turbo speed of 3.4ghz, the 4590 has a turbo speed of 3.7ghz. The average overclock of the 4690k is ~4.5ghz

You cannot compare the price of the i5 4690k directly with locked models because there are two major variables needed to take advantage of the 4690k's "extra performance."

1. A more expensive Z motherboard
2. An aftermarket cpu cooler.

Add those two things to the price tag and the 4690k's value plummets. In most cases, you'd spend almost $100 more to overclock at the minimum.


PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpbdMp
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gpbdMp/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $251.87

vs

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kx2kzy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kx2kzy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z97-E ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $335.86
 

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I agree with CTurbo on this. If you aren't overclocking then go with the lesser CPU. I said earlier if it was only a $10 difference I would go with the 4690 over the 4590 but if it is more than that then save the money and spend it elsewhere as you shouldn't notice a difference in the gaming.
 
True, although I never recommend the stock cooler since they're junk. They barely handle the stock speeds at full load and aren't the quietest things around. Even a stock cpu deserves a better cooler and if people are looking to cut corners, there are cheaper budget options in the amd lineup. I don't really recommend the stock coolers with those either. Not all z97 mobo's are high dollar and if you consider the newer tech and features it's only reasonable. No one complains that current tech is more expensive than older tech.

There's a difference between overpaying and cheaping out and the intel lineup isn't really for those looking to save every last buck at the cost of performance. There are plenty of amd's out there with that mindset, they have good enough performance and will save a good $100-150. Not sure why everyone thinks z motherboards are so expensive, only the top end z series run $200+ and before that the z87's a lot of them ran over $300 when they were released.

It does make sense to go with a locked cpu if no plans to overclock, but intel does have more to offer than bottom of the barrel budget and that's not always the best solution. Also not sure why 'extra performance' is in quotes like it doesn't exist, it's a $200 cpu that keeps up with a $300 i7 more times than not. I'd say it's extra performance. If someone is honestly looking to assemble a pc with run of the mill parts, they might be better off buying a prebuilt or an off lease refurbed office pc. It's a lot less effort and will probably cost less than buying all the bottom binned components separately plus they often come with a bundled mouse, keyboard and a copy of windows.

This one is under $400, has an i5 4460, 8gb ddr3, 1tb hdd, case, power supply, keyboard and mouse with a copy of win7 64bit. I don't think you can build one this cheap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4GH27K7375